cannonball-addict Posted December 26, 2005 Report Posted December 26, 2005 I want to know the first session that you guys can think of that is a tenor sax and guitar pairing where it is NOT a blowing session (i.e. head, solo, solo, head). I am thinking of stuff along the lines of through-composed stuff where the tenor and the guitar play together throughout. Sonny Rollins and Jim Hall's "Travelin' Light" is a classic example and might be the first. This concept has culminated in pairings today like John Scofield and Joe Lovano, Bill Frisell and Joe Lovano, Kurt Rosenwinkel and Mark Turner, Chris Potter and Adam Rogers. You don't have to like the stuff, just let me know who you think originated the concept. And please gimme some other examples of people who have tried this pairing either successfully or unsuccessfully. It seems to me it happened in the 1960s and then stopped during fusione in the 70s and picked up with the Lovano stuff in the late 80s and really gained steam in the 90s. So JimR....I am counting on your knowledge. Who was the first to do this type of thing and who else did it. Matt Quote
Guy Berger Posted December 26, 2005 Report Posted December 26, 2005 Not first, but what about Chico Hamilton's groups? Guy Quote
cannonball-addict Posted December 26, 2005 Author Report Posted December 26, 2005 But with who and when? Are we talking Jim Hall? And who was the tenorist. Matt Quote
7/4 Posted December 26, 2005 Report Posted December 26, 2005 Not first, but what about Kenny Burrell & John Coltrane? Quote
cannonball-addict Posted December 26, 2005 Author Report Posted December 26, 2005 That's a blowing session. It's mostly head, solo, shout, solo, shout, head. Quote
Guy Berger Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 But with who and when? Are we talking Jim Hall? And who was the tenorist. Matt Well, the first quintet had Buddy Collette on reeds and Jim Hall on guitar. There was a later quintet with Gabor Szabo and Charles Lloyd. Quote
7/4 Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 I wrote: Not first, but what about Kenny Burrell & John Coltrane? cannonball-addict wrote: That's a blowing session. It's mostly head, solo, shout, solo, shout, head. You're right, I didn't read the opening thread question closely enough. Quote
JSngry Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 Jimmy Giuffre's trios w/Hall? Although, I believe that Chico's groups came first. Quote
Nate Dorward Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 (edited) Gil Melle (not a modest man, I'll warn you) claims credit for inventing the sax/guitar lineup in the liners to the reissued Blue Note sessions. Certainly it's one of the earliest examples. Edited December 27, 2005 by Nate Dorward Quote
Sundog Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 Does Bauer/Marsh with Tristano count? Quote
cannonball-addict Posted December 27, 2005 Author Report Posted December 27, 2005 Good call on Billy Bauer/Warne Marsh. I think that does count given the through-composed nature of their playing. But perhaps I'm wrong. I dunno its a hard description to fit. I boxed myself in here. Matt Quote
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