Complete Clifford Brown on Emarcy & Complete Paul Desmond on RCA V

[spinlps]

Anyone have any thoughts on these? Local shop has these at seemingly low prices ($80 for the Brown, $40 for the Desmond). I'm more interested in the Brown and am not really familiar with the Desmond material.

Anyone?

[jazzkrow]

Those are very good prices-appear to be $8 per cd.

If the box/booklets are in good shape and the cds are clean, then I'd recommend both.

You can't go wrong with either-especially the Brownie....

Go for it!

If you decide to pass on either one, I'm sure other Board members would be interested at those prices,

myself included

Let us know!

[Big Al]

What Jeff said!

I've never heard the Brownie material, but have to assume it's revelatory! The Desmond is pure bliss!

[Kalo]

Good prices and great music. If you've got the dough, then I say GO!

[GA Russell]

The Desmond RCA material is 80% of my favorite Mosaic box. I've had it for over fifteen years, and still listen to it all the time.

[Clunky]

I've never heard the Brownie material, but have to assume it's revelatory!

What !!!!, shouldn't be missed

[Rosco]

I have the Brownie and it's a beaut.

There's quite a bit of alternate takes and two discs have a loose, enjoyable (if hardly essential) jam session with Dinah Washington, but so much of what's there is so top-notch that it's hard to gripe; all the stuff with Max Roach, the albums with Sarah Vaughan and Helen Merrill and Brownie's with-strings date- all superb.

[jbb]

These two box sets have been on my wish list for months. I've been looking at them for Ebay for a while, so here's what I can tell you about the prices:

Clifford Brown--$80 is a good price, probably around the lowest I've seen a complete box in good shape go for on Ebay.

Paul Desmond--$40 is a great price. The cheapest I've seen a complete box in good shape go for in the last few months is around $60.

In short, given the quality of these sets and the prices, get to that record store right away.

[spinlps]

Will do! Let's hope they're still there when I get back. I saw the Brown box in Atlanta last night going for $100 which got me wondering about the set back in St. Louis. Guess I'll find out tomorrow...

These two box sets have been on my wish list for months. I've been looking at them for Ebay for a while, so here's what I can tell you about the prices:

Clifford Brown--$80 is a good price, probably around the lowest I've seen a complete box in good shape go for on Ebay.

Paul Desmond--$40 is a great price. The cheapest I've seen a complete box in good shape go for in the last few months is around $60.

In short, given the quality of these sets and the prices, get to that record store right away.

[ghost of miles]

Good luck! I've been reading Doug Ramsey's Desmond bio and am about to pull out my RCA box for another listen... wonderful stuff. I need to seek out the Warner Bros. album that Desmond did as well. (Which I think was a part of the Mosaic box.)

I don't have the Brown box simply because I have all of the mini-LPs that came out a few years ago and have that material pretty much covered.

[DrJ]

You need 'em both. Essential, IMHO.

[Chuck Nessa]

Been listening to all this music since the late '50s.

Go for the gusto.

[neveronfriday]

I have both.

They are cornerstones of my collection.

Run!

[J.A.W.]

I have the individual Clifford Brown/Max Roach Quintet CDs (don't care much for the jam sessions) and the Mosaic Paul Desmond/Jim Hall set. Wonderful music, very highly recommended!

[spinlps]

Ok, Ok already. I'm headed to the shop today after lunch to pick them up. Budgets be damned...

Thanks!

[Dave James]

Both are essential. If I had to choose between the two, I would probably take the Brown set in a photo finish, but that could change by tomorrow.

Let us know what you think after you've had a chance to digest these.

Up over and out.

[Joe]

The Brownie set in particular is a good snag, as it collects a good bit of material that is not easy to acquire otherwise (e.g., the jam material with Joe Maini).

The Desmond set features some of the best mastering I've ever heard. The music itself is uniformly superb. I think the entire contents of this set are now available in [multiple] single CD issues, in case you choose to acquire the material that way. Whatever the case, these are classic / essential / whatever recordings.

As for the Desmond WB session -- FIRST PLACE AGAIN -- it is indeed sublime. Easiest way to track it down might be by looking for the recent reissue on the Gambit label. However, I fear Gambit may be another European chop-shop outfit.

CD Universe link

You might also look for the I believe legit Discovery label reissue. Same material, available under the title EAST OF THE SUN.

Edited December 21, 2005 by Joe

[J.A.W.]

The Brownie set in particular is a good snag, as it collects a good bit of material that is not easy to acquire otherwise (e.g., the jam material with Joe Maini).

The Desmond set features some of the best mastering I've ever heard. The music itself is uniformly superb. I think the entire contents of this set are now available in [multiple] single CD issues, in case you choose to acquire the material that way. Whatever the case, these are classic / essential / whatever recordings.

As for the Desmond WB session -- FIRST PLACE AGAIN -- it is indeed sublime. Easiest way to track it down might be by looking for the recent reissue on the Gambit label. However, I fear Gambit may be another European chop-shop outfit.

CD Universe link

You might also look for the I believe legit Discovery label reissue. Same material, available under the title EAST OF THE SUN.

The Warner Bros. album was also reissued in Japan in 1989 as First Place Again, Warner Bros. WPCR-506. I got it from Tower.com last year, but they don't have that particular disc anymore.

[spinlps]

Looks like someone best me to it... Kinda. It shows as being in inventory but they can't find it even though both clerks saw it this morning... The Desmond that is.

[Rosco]

Someone hid it between the Kenny G CDs

[Ken Dryden]

Sometimes you just have to pull the trigger when you spot things, particularly boxed sets at reasonable prices, or titles on small labels that may end up being out of print before you can blink.

I've got both the Brown set and the earlier Mosaic version of the Desmond material, both sets are essential.

[paul secor]

The thing to remember is that they'll come around again. Or were you able to buy the Brownie box? - I'm unclear about that. Anyway, the next time you see the Desmond you'll know what to do.

Edited December 22, 2005 by paul secor

[spinlps]

The Brown Box was gone as well, although they said they had another set coming in next week at the same price. I didn't understand how they could schedule that sort of thing, but had them reserve it for me. Asked them to hold the Desmond if / when they do find it as well.

Live and learn... maybe I'll play the Mosaic Brown box to ease the pain.

The thing to remember is that they'll come around again. Or were you able to buy the Brownie box? - I'm unclear about that. Anyway, the next time you see the Desmond you'll know what to do.

[spinlps]

Sorry to revive an old thread, but I honestly didn't think this was ever going to happen. BUT, I got caught in "W" traffic at the airport waiting on the tarmac for AF1 to land & prep and on the drive home waiting for W to catch his plane. Anyway, I ended up taking a detour to Vintage Vinyl and there it was, the Desmond / Hall box,... and now it's mine. Just finished the first three discs and it's definitely worth every penny.

The thing to remember is that they'll come around again. Or were you able to buy the Brownie box? - I'm unclear about that. Anyway, the next time you see the Desmond you'll know what to do.

Edited June 29, 2006 by spinlps

[tjobbe]

For those of you interested in the Clifford Brown Emercy set (and willing to check out german www.jpc.de site ) they right now have the 10CD box set on sale (not sure for how long and how many) for 20€ plus S&H....

Cheers, Tjobbe