US RVG Suprises

[scottb]

Nearly 150 titles in the series and no John Patton or Curtis Fuller as a leader. Only one Kenny Burrell.

Any other suprising omissions (or inclusions for that matter? Freddie Redd, Cecil Taylor)

[sidewinder]

I was checking a load of them yesterday and it looks like they have now sorted out Herbie's surname on 'Oblique' in the latest production run.

[Big Al]

Midnight Special and Back at the Chicken Shack!!!

HELLLOOOOOO????????

[Hank]

Midnight Special and Back at the Chicken Shack!!!

HELLLOOOOOO????????

Agreed.

Also Lou Donaldson's Here 'Tis.

[Rooster_Ties]

I was pretty surprised (and pissed too ), that this came out as a Conn instead of being part of the RVG series.

Edit: In fact, how did it take them so damn long to get this one out stateside in the first place???

Why wasn't there a McMaster of this back in the early 90's?? Or how did it take over 10 series of Conns for it to come out stateside?? Yeah, I know, it was part of the Mosaic -- that's probably the reason. Still, it should have been an RVG. It should have been an RVG.

Edited December 6, 2005 by Rooster_Ties

[clifford_thornton]

Especially since Contours was an RVG; I think the latter is the lesser of the two. But then again, I always get the "insane" tag for slagging any of Rivers' BN oiutput - and especially when I slag Contours.

[Rooster_Ties]

Especially since Contours was an RVG.

I'm 99% sure Contours was a Conn, and not an RVG.

Edit: By the way, I'm not nearly as pissed about Fuchsia Swing Song coming out as a Conn -- as long as that sucker comes out as an RVG shortly after the Conn of it goes OOP. And since quite a few OOP Conns have been coming out as RVG's lately, then I don't blame BN at all for trying to sell a bunch of them first (an entire Conn run's worth) at the higher list price.

If doing that helps them release more obscure stuff (stuff that won't sell all that much), then more power to 'em.

Edited December 7, 2005 by Rooster_Ties

[Spontooneous]

The most surprising omissions of all: The warmth of the horns. The stereo spreads.

Sorry, but I'm consistently revulsed by what I hear on RVGs. It's a cold audio wasteland of digital trickery, and I don't want to go there anymore.

[sjarrell]

Midnight Special and Back at the Chicken Shack!!!

HELLLOOOOOO????????

Agreed.

Also Lou Donaldson's Here 'Tis.

Why LD has only one RVG to his name is mystifying. (It seems like most other living artists (Silver, for instance) have more RVGs out to collect royalties off of.) Ditto Fuller, but at least his catalog's only 3 deep. I figure Cuscuna's holding back the LD material so as to sell more Mosaics (but that doesn't explain Here 'tis absence!). Hopefully the Mosaic's good royalty $$ for Donaldson.

But a big Hell Yes on Here 'tis! I can't think of a better organ groove LP...

Edited December 6, 2005 by sjarrell

[JSngry]

The most surprising omissions of all: The warmth of the horns. The stereo spreads.

Sorry, but I'm consistently revulsed by what I hear on RVGs. It's a cold audio wasteland of digital trickery, and I don't want to go there anymore.

But....but....uh....err......um....

Yeah, pretty much. Not always, but sometimes. Too often.

[mikeweil]

Indeed

[Uncle Skid]

Is the inclusion of Cecil Taylor really considered to be a "surprise"? If so, why?

I'm just curious -- I was listening to "Conquistador" recently, and it hit me like a ton of bricks. Although I've had it for quite some time, it took awhile to really "get" it. In retrospect, I'm glad that this title was included in the less expensive (and presumably more widely marketed and distributed) RVG series.

My nominations for the next RVG releases: Unit Structures, and Andrew Hill - Compulsion.

[Chuck Nessa]

Those would be my choices too.

[CJ Shearn]

Jimmy Smith at The Club Baby Grand gets my vote, along with his Japanese only sessions, do those as RVG's please as I said on the AAJ board. it's about time that killer version of "The Preacher" comes out domestically.

[Parkertown]

My nominations for the next RVG releases: Unit Structures.

Gee, do I like that album...?

Actually, I'm dying to hear a MONO one...

Edited December 7, 2005 by Parkertown

[Parkertown]

Hey, there's actually one on eBay right now, but crap, it's up to like $32 + $5 s/h already!!! It ends tomorrow morning.

Perhaps the word "dying" was a bit strong, eh?

[Free For All]

It's a cold audio wasteland of digital trickery

Nice turn of a phrase. What, you been listening to Zappa lately?

[Guest]

cold audio wasteland of digital trickery!??!?!?

maybe you are just not old enough to understand, but if you had actively, lived through pop music production in the early sixties through the mid 70s, you might understand how exiting and fresh it was to have new tools at hand that started to appear in the early 80's ---this "digtal trickery" as you refer to it, was cutting edge. that is why, say for example, a band like talking heads can still, even today, be considered more modern music than say, later pop chart toppers, nirvana. thats just a regression back to lo-fi garage rock-- which is great in its own right, but not nearly as cutting edge from the production side of things.

[jazzbo]

Sue me. I like the clarity and dynamics of the RVG sound; it seems to suit my stereo fine and I like the choices they've made. I hope they get to more early Blue Note material, and to the titles mentioned here, and the series doesn't run out of steam (as the Prestige RVG series begins).

[Gary]

Considering the strong line up I'm surprised Sonny's Crib hasnt been RVGd

[scottb]

Yes I was very suprised to see Dial S For Sonny before Sonny's Crib.

[Cliff Englewood]

How about these "Bad Boys". Unbelievable music by all concerned and one of Grant Green's best recorded performances.

[Aggie87]

Inspired by Cliff's recommendation, how about this one:

[Noj]

I can hear all the instruments on every BN release I have--vinyl, McMaster, RVG, whatever. The only irritance arises when I make mixed cds and in juxtaposing the songs to each other I can hear the difference in audio quality. I can live with that.

[Spontooneous]

maybe you are just not old enough to understand, but if you had actively, lived through pop music production in the early sixties through the mid 70s, you might understand how exiting and fresh it was to have new tools at hand that started to appear in the early 80's ---this "digtal trickery" as you refer to it, was cutting edge. that is why, say for example, a band like talking heads can still, even today, be considered more modern music than say, later pop chart toppers, nirvana. thats just a regression back to lo-fi garage rock-- which is great in its own right, but not nearly as cutting edge from the production side of things.

Just because digital tools are available doesn't mean they have to be misapplied, as RVG is doing to mess up his own historic recordings.