Hmmm... A Buddy Rich European Version?

[tranemonk]

okay.. I'm looking over at CDU at upcoming releases... and ..

http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?...289599194&BAB=D

Doesn't mention anything about it being the European version.. but it's $30 less the set purchased at Mosaic and comes out about a month later.... What do you think? Any explanations????

[couw]

amazon.de lists this set for 51.99 Euro

[Ron S]

TM, you should check Caiman at Amazon once this has been out a few weeks. Could be another Farlow in the making (who knew Tal and Buddy were so much alike? ).

[RDK]

Geez, I thought the thread title was "A Buddy Rich European Vacation" and started to imagine the possibilities...

[Alfred]

amazon.de lists this set for 51.99 Euro

Good spot. Thanks! I pre-ordered it within seconds!

Sidewinder, it's your turn!!!

[sidewinder]

Thanks Alfred ! I'll hold off for a 'mo but this is another excellent deal. I was expecting to have to wait at least a year before the Amazonian Caiman price kicked in.

This rate we'll only have to order from Mosaic HQ for Selects..

[tjobbe]

amazon.de lists this set for 51.99 Euro

Good spot. Thanks! I pre-ordered it within seconds!

Sidewinder, it's your turn!!!

they already changed it to a "normal" 95€ ... so the chance is gone

Cheers, Tjobbe

Edited December 6, 2005 by tjobbe

[sidewinder]

Ah well - it'll be back.

[tjobbe]

yes, as www.jpc.de lists them as well for 60€ on pre-order.

Cheers, Tjobbe

EDIT: just saw they will release it at my birthday...isn't that a sign

Edited December 6, 2005 by tjobbe

[David Ayers]

I note that amazon.de have also increased prices on the other Mosaic bargains to around the 100 euro mark.

[tranemonk]

What I was trying to say earlier.. was that I don't KNOW if the CDU set is another European version... (aka Farlow....) I'm only guessing that it is... What's odd is why some of their sets end up in the market with European versions at the same time and why some don't...

It's not ONLY the Verve titles... (No European Basie or Mulligan....)

Edited December 6, 2005 by tranemonk

[king ubu]

What I was trying to say earlier.. was that I don't KNOW if the CDU set is another European version... (aka Farlow....) I'm only guessing that it is... What's odd is why some of their sets end up in the market with European versions at the same time and why some don't...

It's not ONLY the Verve titles... (No European Basie or Mulligan....)

Huh? But I do have Universal (not Yurpean, as far as I know there's no geographic twist to it, it's just Universal's own part of the run) versions of the Basie and the Mulligan...

[David Ayers]

(1) these are the Universal, US made Mosaics

(2) so far there have been five: Mulligan, Farlow, Jazztet, Eldridge, Basie

[tranemonk]

Really??? How much is the Eldridge going for??? And Hey Ron... S. did you get any of these other than the Farlow as the European version?

(1) these are the Universal, US made Mosaics

(2) so far there have been five: Mulligan, Farlow, Jazztet, Eldridge, Basie

[David Ayers]

Eldridge went for a little over 50 Euros from amazon.de but has recently reverted to full price. I haven't checked jpc who a few weeks ago had it for under 60 euros.

[tjobbe]

.... I haven't checked jpc who a few weeks ago had it for under 60 euros.

yes, www.jpc.de still list those for 60€ , the Basie is at 67€ respectively....(and the Mulligan 4CD set goes away for 50€ )

Cheers, Tjobbe

[Ron S]

And Hey Ron... S. did you get any of these other than the Farlow as the European version?

Nope, just the Farlow. Although I've been tempted by the Eldridge (I already have Mulligan, Jazztet, and Basie direct from Mosaic). Interestingly, the Farlow still seems to be the only one of these that is widely distributed in the US at discounted prices (at Amazon--regular and Marketplace, Tower, CD Universe, etc.).

[Ed S]

Just ordered the CD Universe version.

Thanks!

[Brad]

I don't know how this could happen or how Mosaic could let it happen. CD Universe has it for $91 and Mosaic's price is $119. Gee, I wonder where people will buy it from?

[David Ayers]

I don't know how this could happen or how Mosaic could let it happen. CD Universe has it for $91 and Mosaic's price is $119. Gee, I wonder where people will buy it from?

The Universal Mosaics are real Mosaics in all but serial number. Plainly the deal is to deliver a number of these sets to Verve in lieu of other fees that would otherwise be payable. Mosaic will surely look at the bottom line. Maybe they will sell fewer sets themselves, but they will have lower costs, and if overall sales of the set are greater than might have been expected of a Mosaic-only set then it is all gain. Mosaic can't control the price at which Universal sell, and we should bear in mind that Universal are the copyright holders and that each side in this deal (owners and reissue producers) will be looking at the economics of this arrangement.

[tjobbe]

lets see it this way around: a good way for us Europeans to get some Mosaic's cheaply in exchange for the fact that the rest is expensive because of high shipping from US...all in all its a draw.

Cheers, Tjobbe

[Ed S]

Well, CD Universe has pushed bck the availabilty date of this set from early January to February 6. The pre-order price is now $130. I ordered several weeks ago at the $91 price which history shows they will honor.

[tranemonk]

Got the following from CDU's website..

"The Mosaic Jazz Box Sets have become one of the collectors 'gems' throughout the world. This set features the legendary Buddy Rich's Argo, Emarcy and Verve small group recordings and is limited to only 150 copies for the UK release. The material featured on this set was originally produced by by Norman Granz, Barney Kessel, Jack Tracy and Creed Taylor. 7 CDs"

Interesting... I wonder if that 150 copies is accurate???

Well, CD Universe has pushed bck the availabilty date of this set from early January to February 6. The pre-order price is now $130. I ordered several weeks ago at the $91 price which history shows they will honor.

Edited December 29, 2005 by tranemonk

[Ed S]

Placed my order for the Euopean version of the Rich set with CD Universe on December 7th for $91. Just came in today I was not in any hurry to get it , so I waited through the seemingly endless backorders and changes in release dates. With $2.99 for shipping, the whole thing ran $94.20.

The reason I mention it is that I just saw the Oliver Nelson available at CD Universe for around $85. If you're patient, you could get a bargain.

[Dave James]

Ed,

Nice deal. I got both of these sets from Mosaic for full boat.

By the way, I'm really liking the Nelson. He had a nice way with a chart. And, IMO, he's quite underrated as a musician.

Up over and out.