jazzbo Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 (edited) A message from Bob Belden: www.ropeadope.com They are podcasting my FOUR SEASONS, the Deutsche Gramophon suppressed CD project that I did with Patrick Gallois, a French classical flutist. DG hated my adaptation so much that they refuse to license it to anyone. Spread the word...and it's FREE! bb ps ropeadope has more podcasts and videos as well....my internet label... Edited November 30, 2005 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTMX Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 I listened to a few of the movements and I was lovin' it. You can hear the Four Seasons' themes, but it's very much a jam session with Belden on sax, Tim Hagans on trumpet, and Billy Kilson on drums (among others). Really good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Thanks for the link, Lon. Have only sampled this so far, but it's interesting and groovy. Kudos to Belden for releasing it this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Wonder where ropadope is based (some offshore site?). I do think it is very cool that it is leaking out this way, and I'm downloading now in case the stuff is taken off the site. My initial impression is that the first track is too fast and feels very rushed. Thankfully most of the tracks are at a more reasonable tempo. If people dig this, they may want to check out Stephane Furic's Crossing Brooklyn Ferry on Soul Note, which is a reinterpretation of Copland's Appalachian Spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 If people dig this, they may want to check out Stephane Furic's Crossing Brooklyn Ferry on Soul Note, which is a reinterpretation of Copland's Appalachian Spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 (edited) sounds like something from Poland or Czechia, mid 70s. BTW, can this be moved to Misc. Music or is there a reason to put it here? Edited December 1, 2005 by couw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 I am enjoying this, though I still feel the first track would be better if slowed down just a bit. Track 4 on the other hand has a nice propulsive groove, with a driving bass, but it doesn't feel as if the flautist is trying to prove how fast he can play. Indeed, the flautist drops out on a lot of the track (not to defend DG but this project doesn't put him front and center all the time, better from a musical standpoint, not as desirable from a marketing standpoint). And if I am not mistaken, there's some cowbell in the percussion section. What can I say other than MORE COWBELL, BABY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosco Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Thanks to this thread I've spent most of the last 16 hours checking out the Ropeadope site. Good stuff. Haven't had a serious listen to the Four Seasons yet. Will make time later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Sorry John. . . I just dropped it in this forum by accident. Truth be told. . . I felt a bit controversial putting it on the site. . . figured there might be some flak possibly. . . . Haven't looked at the site yet myself, but I did honor the request to post it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) These are great arrangements, but Patrick Gallois himself contributes little of significance from a jazz point of view (can't blame him for that). I recommend that you download the tracks ("Save as ..."), because they might dissappear soon. Edited December 2, 2005 by Claude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Truth be told. . . I felt a bit controversial putting it on the site. . . figured there might be some flak possibly. . . . Bob Belden - musical (rights) terrorist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 BTW, has anyone heard Belden's Turandot adaptation, which had to be withdrawn for legal reasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 BTW, has anyone heard Belden's Turandot adaptation, which had to be withdrawn for legal reasons? A real troublemaker that Belden guy, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted November 21 Report Share Posted November 21 I'm listening to this again and it seems strange to me that Deutsche Grammophon would squelch music one of their artists created. Snobbery or did they actually not like it? It's not great but I like hearing these jazzy interpretations of Vivaldi's violin quartet compositions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted November 21 Report Share Posted November 21 1 hour ago, Kevin Bresnahan said: I'm listening to this again and it seems strange to me that Deutsche Grammophon would squelch music one of their artists created. Snobbery or did they actually not like it? It's not great but I like hearing these jazzy interpretations of Vivaldi's violin quartet compositions. Especially considering https://www.discogs.com/search/?q=Deutsche+Grammophon+Recomposed&srsltid=AfmBOoovrnr3jY77olSYnF1cFyJq2wetyDmDN-eZYtdsTBsRLBsHnH2- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted yesterday at 12:58 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:58 AM Where can I hear this?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago When I get back from the holiday this weekend, I'll try to put it up on the web somewhere. I only have mp3 files, no FLAC or WAV, so that'll have to do. Bob wanted this heard so I'll do my part in his absence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 32 minutes ago, Kevin Bresnahan said: When I get back from the holiday this weekend, I'll try to put it up on the web somewhere. I only have mp3 files, no FLAC or WAV, so that'll have to do. Bob wanted this heard so I'll do my part in his absence. 👍🥂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) On 12/2/2005 at 8:12 AM, Claude said: BTW, has anyone heard Belden's Turandot adaptation, which had to be withdrawn for legal reasons? I have that (Turandot) on CD. A friend bought it for me many years ago when she was in Japan. TOCJ- 5731. Edited 5 hours ago by jlhoots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, jlhoots said: I have that (Turandot) on CD. A friend bought it for me many years ago when she was in Japan. TOCJ- 5731. I was able to get a copy of Bob's Turandot CD from one of the players on the date. I think it's just totally bogus that Puccini's estate was able to retain the copyright for that opera through a fluke, with several people claiming that they finished the opera and therefore extended the copyright. Puccini died in 1924, ending "Turandot" then and there, with instructions that the opera should end where he finished. But family members wanted a piece of the action, so they had music added posthumously, which put Belden in a bind with the estate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago It's not bogus, but it is triflin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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