Four Seasons, the Bob Belden project

[jazzbo]

A message from Bob Belden:

www.ropeadope.com

They are podcasting my FOUR SEASONS, the Deutsche Gramophon suppressed

CD project that I did with Patrick Gallois, a French classical flutist.

DG hated my adaptation so much that they refuse to license it to

anyone.

Spread the word...and it's FREE!

bb

ps

ropeadope has more podcasts and videos as well....my internet

label...

Edited November 30, 2005 by jazzbo

[DTMX]

I listened to a few of the movements and I was lovin' it. You can hear the Four Seasons' themes, but it's very much a jam session with Belden on sax, Tim Hagans on trumpet, and Billy Kilson on drums (among others). Really good stuff.

[RDK]

Thanks for the link, Lon. Have only sampled this so far, but it's interesting and groovy. Kudos to Belden for releasing it this way.

[ejp626]

Wonder where ropadope is based (some offshore site?). I do think it is very cool that it is leaking out this way, and I'm downloading now in case the stuff is taken off the site. My initial impression is that the first track is too fast and feels very rushed. Thankfully most of the tracks are at a more reasonable tempo.

If people dig this, they may want to check out Stephane Furic's Crossing Brooklyn Ferry on Soul Note, which is a reinterpretation of Copland's Appalachian Spring.

[Rooster_Ties]

If people dig this, they may want to check out Stephane Furic's Crossing Brooklyn Ferry on Soul Note, which is a reinterpretation of Copland's Appalachian Spring.

[couw]

sounds like something from Poland or Czechia, mid 70s.

BTW, can this be moved to Misc. Music or is there a reason to put it here?

Edited December 1, 2005 by couw

[ejp626]

I am enjoying this, though I still feel the first track would be better if slowed down just a bit.

Track 4 on the other hand has a nice propulsive groove, with a driving bass, but it doesn't feel as if the flautist is trying to prove how fast he can play. Indeed, the flautist drops out on a lot of the track (not to defend DG but this project doesn't put him front and center all the time, better from a musical standpoint, not as desirable from a marketing standpoint). And if I am not mistaken, there's some cowbell in the percussion section. What can I say other than MORE COWBELL, BABY!

[Rosco]

Thanks to this thread I've spent most of the last 16 hours checking out the Ropeadope site. Good stuff.

Haven't had a serious listen to the Four Seasons yet. Will make time later.

[jazzbo]

Sorry John. . . I just dropped it in this forum by accident.

Truth be told. . . I felt a bit controversial putting it on the site. . . figured there might be some flak possibly. . . .

Haven't looked at the site yet myself, but I did honor the request to post it!

[Claude]

These are great arrangements, but Patrick Gallois himself contributes little of significance from a jazz point of view (can't blame him for that).

I recommend that you download the tracks ("Save as ..."), because they might dissappear soon.

Edited December 2, 2005 by Claude

[ejp626]

Truth be told. . . I felt a bit controversial putting it on the site. . . figured there might be some flak possibly. . . .

Bob Belden - musical (rights) terrorist

[Claude]

BTW, has anyone heard Belden's Turandot adaptation, which had to be withdrawn for legal reasons?

[RDK]

BTW, has anyone heard Belden's Turandot adaptation, which had to be withdrawn for legal reasons?

A real troublemaker that Belden guy, huh?

[Kevin Bresnahan]

I'm listening to this again and it seems strange to me that Deutsche Grammophon would squelch music one of their artists created. Snobbery or did they actually not like it? It's not great but I like hearing these jazzy interpretations of Vivaldi's violin quartet compositions.

[JSngry]

1 hour ago, Kevin Bresnahan said:

I'm listening to this again and it seems strange to me that Deutsche Grammophon would squelch music one of their artists created. Snobbery or did they actually not like it? It's not great but I like hearing these jazzy interpretations of Vivaldi's violin quartet compositions.

Especially considering

https://www.discogs.com/search/?q=Deutsche+Grammophon+Recomposed&srsltid=AfmBOoovrnr3jY77olSYnF1cFyJq2wetyDmDN-eZYtdsTBsRLBsHnH2-

 

[Teasing the Korean]

Where can I hear this?!?

[Kevin Bresnahan]

When I get back from the holiday this weekend, I'll try to put it up on the web somewhere. I only have mp3 files, no FLAC or WAV, so that'll have to do.

Bob wanted this heard so I'll do my part in his absence.

[Teasing the Korean]

32 minutes ago, Kevin Bresnahan said:

When I get back from the holiday this weekend, I'll try to put it up on the web somewhere. I only have mp3 files, no FLAC or WAV, so that'll have to do.

Bob wanted this heard so I'll do my part in his absence.

👍🥂

[jlhoots]

On 12/2/2005 at 8:12 AM, Claude said:

BTW, has anyone heard Belden's Turandot adaptation, which had to be withdrawn for legal reasons?

I have that (Turandot) on CD. A friend bought it for me many years ago when she was in Japan. TOCJ- 5731.

Edited November 28 by jlhoots

[Kevin Bresnahan]

1 hour ago, jlhoots said:

I have that (Turandot) on CD. A friend bought it for me many years ago when she was in Japan. TOCJ- 5731.

I was able to get a copy of Bob's Turandot CD from one of the players on the date.

I think it's just totally bogus that Puccini's estate was able to retain the copyright for that opera through a fluke, with several people claiming that they finished the opera and therefore extended the copyright. Puccini died in 1924, ending "Turandot" then and there, with instructions that the opera should end where he finished. But family members wanted a piece of the action, so they had music added posthumously, which put Belden in a bind with the estate.

[JSngry]

It's not bogus, but it is triflin'.