finally got "Stepping Stones"

[felser]

My favorite Woody is the Last of the line two-fer issued on 32 Jazz. It's a masterpiece.

That one reissues 'Cassandranite' (1965 recordings with Joe Henderson, and Larry Young on piano) amd 'Love Dance' (1975 recordings with Billy Harper and Joe Bonner). Good stuff.

[jazzbo]

Well, right on the spine of the inner back cover tray it shows the copy protection logo, and this is visible right from front (clear center trays).

[Ron S]

Also, on the back of the jewel case, next to the FBI seal and warning, is a box that says "Compatible With" and lists various operating systems, ripping software, and portable devices, says "Limited Copies," and refers questions to the web site "cp.sonybmg.com/xcp."

Additionally, the label on the disc itself bears this copy control logo:

and the words:

The copy control logo is a trademark of IFPI and is used under license. Disc use subject to copying restrictions under applicable law.

which undoudtedly are words Sony/BMG now wishes it had never seen nor heard.

[JSngry]

Additionally, the label on the disc itself bears this copy control logo:

Hmmmm....looks familiar...

[Chuck Nessa]

Additionally, the label on the disc itself bears this copy control logo:

Hmmmm....looks familiar...

Jim, I just had the impulse to run for the basement. Then I realized I was already there.

[JSngry]

We don't have basements in Texas. We're all doomed to die a fiery Red Death.

Or is that Red State Death?

[Chuck Nessa]

We don't have basements in Texas. We're all doomed to die a fiery Red Death.

Or is that Red State Death?

Not sure but I think Flora was a Red Menace.

[JSngry]

One if by land...

[Ron S]

I just had the impulse to run for the basement. Then I realized I was already there.

Then it's time to run for the sub-basement (when the basement alone isn't enough).

[CJ Shearn]

thanks for the info on the copy protection, that is one ugly set of logos.

[Ron S]

Not as ugly as the mess in which Sony/BMG now finds itself.

[skeith]

Is Shaw's Stepping Stones part of the recall because the copy protection messes up your computer??

[jazzbo]

The Shaw "Stepping Stones" does NOT have copy protection.

[Rooster_Ties]

The Shaw "Stepping Stones" does NOT have copy protection.

WHEW!!!!

[Ron S]

And it's still available at yourmusic.com for $5.99 with free shipping, here.

[jazzbo]

Likewise the excellent Jamal has no copy protection and is still available.

Edited November 29, 2005 by jazzbo

[skeith]

The Shaw "Stepping Stones" does NOT have copy protection.

thanks, Lon

[CJ Shearn]

does anyone notice on "Stepping Stones" how they seem to use the same applause segment in between each tune? not that it matters much, the music is so great.

[Brad]

Likewise the excellent Jamal has no copy protection and is still available.

That and the Brookemeyer were the best of that series of reissues, not to denigrate the Mulligan or the Dex but the Jamal was really tops: an eye opener for me.

[gslade]

[Ron S]

I agree about the Jamal--just started listening to the first several tracks today and was really diggin' it. And the sound is terrific--wonderful presence.

[Big Al]

Also, don't let the "excuse" fool you - "It All Comes Back To You" is a fine piece, and its exclusion is inexcuasable.

Just did a search and didn't find the answer to these questions: was "It All Comes Back to You" recorded at the VV along with the other tracks on the original LP? Were the three bonus tracks recorded at the VV? Do the liner notes in the CD say anything about that, beyond the "commercial appeal" of "IACBTY"?

[skeith]

Also, don't let the "excuse" fool you - "It All Comes Back To You" is a fine piece, and its exclusion is inexcuasable.

Just did a search and didn't find the answer to these questions: was "It All Comes Back to You" recorded at the VV along with the other tracks on the original LP? Were the three bonus tracks recorded at the VV? Do the liner notes in the CD say anything about that, beyond the "commercial appeal" of "IACBTY"?

Well my liners say IACBTY was recorded at the VV with the other tracks on the original LP and so were the bonus tracks. The liner notes just say more or less ( I don't have them in front of me) that IACBTY was chosen for commercial radio play appeal.

I think the new bonus tracks are superior to IACBTY.

[bertrand]

Now that I've been able to listen to this in depth because I WAS ABLE TO PUT IT ON MY IPOD, here's my thoughts:

1. I have to say, I'm not crazy about the Gumbs composition, and I'm not that crazy about the one they left off either - I guess his composition style just leaves me indifferent. I find them both a little cloying.

2. The rest of this CD is just fabulous - 'Escape Velocity' in particular is just amazing. The band was on fire!

Now the bad news:

How fucking hard is it to properly separate the tracks on a CD??? Here are two major flaws I found:

1. The spoken intro to 'In A Capricornian Way' is part of 'Stepping Stone'. Why? The intro to a tune should be part of the tune itself. But there's much worse:

2. A few seconds of 'Second Avenue' are to be found at the end of 'In A Capricornian Way'. It's only Victor Lewis hitting his sticks together for a couple of seconds, but it is part of the song, not part of the previous song!!!

I'm sure it's a Sony problem, not an iTunes problem but I would love to be proven wrong.

How lame can a record company get???

Bertrand.

Edited December 3, 2005 by bertrand

[Daniel A]

I think they (Sony) are afraid customers will be bugged if a tune does not start immediatly when they skip one of the many unlistenable tracks, and expect a new, merely lousy one.