Bright Moments Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 i know few will disagree with me (HAH!! ) that Sing, Sing, Sing is the greatest big band tune ever written! the question i have is who did the "definitive" version and is it available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 i know few will disagree with me (HAH!! ) that Sing, Sing, Sing is the greatest big band tune ever written! the question i have is who did the "definitive" version and is it available? ← Although he didn't write it or originate it, the tune is closely associated with Benny Goodman, who had the first hit recording of it in 1937. Perhaps the most definitive version, however is Goodman's live version from Carnegie Hall in 1938. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Greatest big band tune ever written? Es loco! I agree with Jack all the way. . . well maybe. I'm a little more torn between the two versions he sites, but do lean to the concert version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron S Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Incidentally, whoever wrote in the description of the new Buddy Rich Mosaic that "efore Rich, drums played a customary support role," should listen again to "Sing, Sing, Sing" and Gene Krupa's contributions in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fer Urbina Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 (edited) Although he didn't write it or originate it, the tune is closely associated with Benny Goodman, who had the first hit recording of it in 1937. Perhaps the most definitive version, however is Goodman's live version from Carnegie Hall in 1938. ← I think Goodman's version was the first one to interpolate "Christopher Columbus" (written by Chu Berry?) Surprising piano solo by Jess Stacy with Goodman at the Carnegie Hall... the studio version was released along two sides of a record, no? BTW, could anyone recommend a good alternative to the "Birth of Swing" 3-CD set from 1991 (RCA 61038-2)? The idea was great but somewhere I read that it sounds like it's been remastered under water, not far off-mark IMHO. F PS For blasting brass big bands tunes, although Goodman had Harry James, Ziggy Elman and Chris Griffin, I have a soft spot for Woody Herman's First Herd: The Good Earth, for instance. Edited November 9, 2005 by Fer Urbina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 (edited) I think Goodman's version was the first one to interpolate "Christopher Columbus" (written by Chu Berry?) Surprising piano solo by Jess Stacy with Goodman at the Carnegie Hall... the studio version was released along two sides of a record, no? ← Goodman's version (arranged by Jimmy Mundy, I believe) is the first to include "Christopher Columbus", which was written by Chu Berry & Andy Razaf. The Victor studio version was issued on two sides of a 12" 78. Edited November 9, 2005 by Stereojack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Although he didn't write it or originate it, the tune is closely associated with Benny Goodman, who had the first hit recording of it in 1937. Perhaps the most definitive version, however is Goodman's live version from Carnegie Hall in 1938. ← I think Louis Prima wrote it!! Anybody heard his version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 I think Louis Prima wrote it!! Anybody heard his version? ← Prima's version is unremarkable, a typical 1930's novelty tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted November 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 thanks for the replies. i have the goodmans, any other version that is a "must have"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold_Z Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 I dunno if it's a must have, but there is a very nice version of Sing, Sing, Sing on a Terry Gibbs/Tito Puente albume called The Latin Connection on Picante. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 I'm fond of the vocal version by Anita O'Day from her 'Anita Sings the Winners' Verve album! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 I absolutely love what the Bloomdaddies do to this tune on their first disc (on Criss Cross)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_M Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Goodman's SSS was certainly advanced for his genre, but unremarkable in the grand scheme of things. For me, the whole thing is ruined by Krupa. His playing, IMHO, is amaturish. I remember seeing a video where there was a 'battle of the bands' between Goodman and Chick Webb. Webb was a far better drummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted November 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 i know few will disagree with me (HAH!! ) that Sing, Sing, Sing is the greatest big band tune ever written! the question i have is who did the "definitive" version and is it available? ← Although he didn't write it or originate it, the tune is closely associated with Benny Goodman, who had the first hit recording of it in 1937. Perhaps the most definitive version, however is Goodman's live version from Carnegie Hall in 1938. ← can't find ANY decent recording of the 1938 Carnagie Hall Concert and i pulled out my Prima mosaic which has a quite unremarkable "original" version. who has done a REALLY memorable version of Sing, Sing, Sing?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Well, I personally don't find Krupa to be "amateurish"--he's playing to the crowd's love of flash, and he's generating a lot of excitement. I like Krupa, I like Webb, they're different players with different approaches and styles. The passage where it's mainly Goodman and Krupa playing. . . was that a first in a swing jazz performance? Sure it's not Trane and Elvin but it's different for the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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