EKE BBB Posted October 11, 2005 Report Posted October 11, 2005 Maybe this is common knowledge but... does anyone know which is the first jazz concert ever recorded? (considering live broadcasts and without considering them) Thanks in advance! Agustín Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted October 11, 2005 Report Posted October 11, 2005 Cotton Club location recordings (featuring Cab Calloway) from April 1931 were issued by Bear Family. Mike Quote
John L Posted October 11, 2005 Report Posted October 11, 2005 Wow, I didn't know that. Thanks, Michael. What were the first commerical live jazz recordings? Spirituals to Swing? Quote
EKE BBB Posted October 11, 2005 Author Report Posted October 11, 2005 Wow, I didn't know that. Thanks, Michael. What were the first commerical live jazz recordings? Spirituals to Swing? ← That´s what I was thinking, John, but was not sure. Quote
EKE BBB Posted October 11, 2005 Author Report Posted October 11, 2005 Cotton Club location recordings (featuring Cab Calloway) from April 1931 were issued by Bear Family. Mike ← Thanks, Mike. It´s a pricey set that has been on my wish list for a long time... Quote
jazzbo Posted October 11, 2005 Report Posted October 11, 2005 Storyville is going to put out two cds of the Ellington stuff from later on. . . some of which I think is in the Bear Family set. . . I'm going for the Storyvilles! Quote
EKE BBB Posted October 11, 2005 Author Report Posted October 11, 2005 Storyville is going to put out two cds of the Ellington stuff from later on. . . some of which I think is in the Bear Family set. . . I'm going for the Storyvilles! ← Yes, Lon. These 1938 broadcasts: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...&hl=cotton+club I have them in an awfully sounding edition in the rip-off label Galaxy. Great music that deserves to be properly remastered and presented! Quote
jazzbo Posted October 11, 2005 Report Posted October 11, 2005 I've got quite a bit of them on two "Jazz Archive" cds. Sound okay. . . will sound better on the Storyville! Quote
slide_advantage_redoux Posted October 12, 2005 Report Posted October 12, 2005 Cotton Club location recordings (featuring Cab Calloway) from April 1931 were issued by Bear Family. Mike ← Well, that clearly shows what I (don't) know! All this time I thought that Stan Getz had one of the earliest. Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted October 12, 2005 Report Posted October 12, 2005 Getz might well have had a reasonable claim for first *issued* live record - the Bear Family set was very recent (not in the 1930s!). Were you thinking of Getz at Storyville (Roost)? Mike Quote
AllenLowe Posted October 12, 2005 Report Posted October 12, 2005 when were Goodman's Carnegie hall recordings first issued? Quote
AllenLowe Posted October 12, 2005 Report Posted October 12, 2005 actually, I just found an internet site that says 1950 - this is before Getz, I think, if correct - Quote
JSngry Posted October 13, 2005 Report Posted October 13, 2005 The first JATP on Asch, when was that issued? Quote
EKE BBB Posted October 13, 2005 Author Report Posted October 13, 2005 The first JATP on Asch, when was that issued? ← 1946 From Verve´s website: ... Granz became a jazz pioneer on July 2, 1944, when he presented Jazz at the Philharmonic at Los Angeles' Philharmonic Hall. The all-star show marked one of the first instances of jazz being presented in the rarefied environs of a concert hall rather than a smoky nightclub or rowdy dance hall. At the time, the presentation of jazz as a legitimate art form, rather than accompaniment for dancing and carousing, was a revolutionary concept. The concert also was a harbinger of a new approach in live jazz presentation, the repertory package tour, and laid the groundwork for the establishment of Verve. Jam sessions were a common element of live performances in the Big Band Era, as much for the benefit of the participating musicians as for the audience, providing relief for the musicians who often felt restricted by written arrangements. But those jam sessions, like other live performances of the era, generally lived on only in the memories of those present. Radio stations and networks would make transcriptions of remote broadcasts from ballrooms, but only for later broadcast, never with public release in mind. One reason was the three-to-five-minute limit of a 78 rpm record side; the other was that canning live music for home consumption simply did not occur to anyone—at least not until Norman Granz came along. As it happened, Granz's Jazz at the Philharmonic show had been recorded for the Armed Forces Radio Service for overseas broadcast to GIs, but the recordings were simply too exciting to keep from the general listening public. So, in 1946, Granz made arrangements with future Folkways Records founder Moses Asch, to issue the first Philharmonic concert on Asch's Disc label. That release offered home listeners the new experience of hearing extended solos, with the musicians egged on by the roar of the audience. By the time the long-playing record album was introduced to the marketplace a few years later, the landmark Jazz at the Philharmonic release was already a part of American record buyers' vocabulary. ... Quote
EKE BBB Posted October 13, 2005 Author Report Posted October 13, 2005 And from Folkalliance website: ... In 1946 Asch teamed with Norman Granz to issue the first Jazz at the Philharmonic recordings on Asch's label, now called Disc Records. The JATP records lost a lot of money and Asch dissolved Disc in 1947, forming Folkways the next year. ... Quote
Brad Posted October 13, 2005 Report Posted October 13, 2005 Although not a true jazz band, I would have thought Paul Whiteman would have had some live recordings that were recorded, maybe as airchecks. Quote
jazzbo Posted October 13, 2005 Report Posted October 13, 2005 Oh yes, though none I think were commercially released at the time. Quote
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