Miles Davis master tape for auction

[RDK]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=4772918940

[Stereojack]

  RDK said:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=4772918940

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The price is ridiculous, so I doubt he'll get any takers, especially since the material has been around for years in general circulation, recently issued on CD.

[JSngry]

Well, it's not really a master tape unless it comes from the Dutch radio outfit that actually recorded the concert, is it?

[Chuck Nessa]

FWIW, Agfa 525 was the exact tape I received of the AEC recordings from Pathe Marconi in 1970. Would the same formulation/designation be in use 12/13 years later?

It is professional tape.

The price is nuts, but it is worth something if an original.

[Michael Fitzgerald]

Is this when I'm supposed to say, "Hey, organissimo, let's all chip in and buy it"?

Mike

[Chuck Nessa]

  Michael Fitzgerald said:

Is this when I'm supposed to say, "Hey, organissimo, let's all chip in and buy it"?

Mike

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You are supposed to wait for Danny.

[JSngry]

I'd rather contribute towards getting Larry a new computer.

[Michael Fitzgerald]

If I buy Larry the computer, will he pick up the tab for the Miles?

[JSngry]

Nothing ventured...

[Dan Gould]

  Chuck Nessa said:

  Michael Fitzgerald said:

Is this when I'm supposed to say, "Hey, organissimo, let's all chip in and buy it"?

Mike

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You are supposed to wait for Danny.

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Sorry, I think we'd need a wee bit more than 30 contributors to cover that opening bid.

[Soul Stream]

I would bid but I'm buying Miles' cigarette butt from Gary Giddens for $10,000.

Edited September 27, 2005 by Soul Stream

[catesta]

[wigwise]

Did anyone read the Q & A at the bottom? If not, here it is:

Q: I found your annoncement while making a dicographic research about Barney Wilen on the net. I was his french manager between 1985 and 1996, and consequently very close from him those years. The story of this tape (and his different official or bootleg editions) remains full of mistery for the jazzfans. And of course - though kwowing that your will certainly not answer this question - I wonder who you are and how this tape is now in your hands ? What is surprising and very moving for me is that, being of course very familiar with Barney Wilen's handwriting, I am almost 100% sure that the liner notes appearing on the tape cover were written by Barney himself. Did you had any grapholigic expert evaluation on that point ? I'm sure such an evaluation could increase the value of this rare item. I'm unfortunately not in position to buy it myself, but if you have any other Barney Wilen items (like LPs, posters, etc..), please keep me informed. Sep-28-05

A: Thank you very much for this most informative question. You are not wrong by assuming that I prefer to keep your first question unanswered. All I can say is that this tape was given to me by Barney Wilen himself and that I therefore have all the reasons to believe that it is an original. Concerning Mr. Wilen's handwriting on the cover of the tape: I did not ask for a graphologist's expertise simply because I assumed that it was his. Your question confirms my assumption. Merci beaucoup!

[brownie]

I'm ready to bet that the seller (Tusaisqui = You Know Who) is Barney Wilen's son.

[AllenLowe]

I vote for Larry's computer - we need him back here -

[Daniel A]

  Chuck Nessa said:

FWIW, Agfa 525 was the exact tape I received of the AEC recordings from Pathe Marconi in 1970. Would the same formulation/designation be in use 12/13 years later?

It is professional tape.

The price is nuts, but it is worth something if an original.

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The tape box is not original, otherwise it would have looked more something like this:

However, the tape itself could still be from 1957, of course. The reel itself looks older than the tape box.

[jazzbo]

Wow. Interesting that it may be young Wilen's. Still doesn't make this "the master" necessarily. . . .

[Claude]

He sold a Barney Wilen poster too:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=7332896525

I agree that this can hardly be called a master tape. It is probably only a copy that the radio station made for Wilen.

[brownie]

It's a small world. I've got a pretty good idea who bought that Barney Wilen poster.

That poster in red and black is typical of Charles Delauney's design work for the Vogue label at the time. Delauney was one of Vogue's top manager then.

[Christiern]

  Soul Stream said:

I would bid but I'm buying Miles' cigarette butt from Gary Giddens for $10,000.

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Think twice before you buy that butt. Phil Schaap is suing Gary for ownership--says he picked it up on West 77th Street, and claims to have the largest collection of jazz butts this side of the Atlantic.