clifford_thornton Posted October 21, 2015 Report Posted October 21, 2015 My memory is that it was mostly one long - or a few longer - pieces. Either way, it was a transcendent experience (and I've seen them before/since - this was singular). Quote
colinmce Posted October 22, 2015 Report Posted October 22, 2015 Very cool. Were you there specifically for TMM? Quote
erwbol Posted October 22, 2015 Report Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) There are two affordable copies left at amazon.de. I bought a new old stock copy on Discogs. Edited October 27, 2015 by erwbol Quote
clifford_thornton Posted October 22, 2015 Report Posted October 22, 2015 Very cool. Were you there specifically for TMM?Yup. Quote
erwbol Posted October 27, 2015 Report Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) Compression, Live at Total Music Meeting 2002 (All/FMP), released late 2004.Listening to it now. Excellent recording, great concert, highly recommended.From the liner notes by Schlippenbach: "The whole set (51 minutes) was played and recorded in real time, without any interruption, and can be heard here in it's entirety. This is the unadulterated original. The twelve titled numbers have been individually cued on the CD." I'm really surprised there was no mention of this release anywhere on Organissimo until my recent post. Edited October 27, 2015 by erwbol Quote
clifford_thornton Posted October 27, 2015 Report Posted October 27, 2015 a/l/l was a short-lived FMP subsidiary and their discs are hard to find. I'm not surprised we haven't talked about it much if at all. Maybe it was mentioned in the Funny Rat thread. Quote
Leeway Posted October 27, 2015 Report Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) I have the CD "Compression" but have not played it in a while, but I can't imagine it being anything less than excellent. I may have posted it in "What Are You Listening to..." thread. I don't recall "Smoke" knocking me out, but I need to give that another listen; it's also been quite a while. Edited October 27, 2015 by Leeway Quote
clifford_thornton Posted October 27, 2015 Report Posted October 27, 2015 Smoke is good. So titled because of what was going down before, during, and after the session... Quote
erwbol Posted October 27, 2015 Report Posted October 27, 2015 Oh. I did a Google search (site:organissimo.org searchterm) and got zero results.The fact that a/l/l was short lived must explain why there are so many new copies still available through German sellers on amazon.de. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted October 27, 2015 Report Posted October 27, 2015 yeah someone must've found a couple boxes of them in a warehouse or something. Quote
uli Posted October 27, 2015 Report Posted October 27, 2015 Have to admit that I don't know a thing about Alexander von Schlippenbach, although I do own this one album - which I aquired because of Sam Rivers... Haven't listened to it in ages, but remember it being quite good.don't know this but i really dig this duo with Rivers Quote
clifford_thornton Posted October 27, 2015 Report Posted October 27, 2015 yeah, I would like to get that duo.It'd be great if someday all the Schoof Quintett records with AvS were reissued. Quote
mjazzg Posted October 27, 2015 Report Posted October 27, 2015 anyone know how this works? Are Jazzwerkstatt licensing FMP for the 77 solo disc?http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0159DRI5W/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=details from elsewhere. seemingly no rhyme nor reason to the compilation of sessionsFMP Box VARIOUS ARTISTS Three titles from the catalogue of the iconic German free jazz label. CD1 : ALEXANDER VON SCHLIPPENBACH - Piano Solo '77 Solo piano improvisations recorded at the FMP studio in Berlin CD2 : STEFAN KEUNE / HANS SCHNEIDER / ACHIM KRAMER - No Comment Free jazz sax/bass/drums trio, recorded on 3 August 2008 in Duisburg CD3 : PETER BRÖTZMANN - Lost & Found Solo recording by the mighty saxophonist, live in concert from Nickelsdorf, Austria, July 2006 and at the risk of diverting the thread there are a number of these Jazzwerkstatt boxes imminent in the UK, includingJazzwerkstatt Peitz Box Vol.1 VARIOUS ARTISTS A new series of boxed sets featuring albums from the catalogue of the Jazzwerkstatt label. This box contains three albums featuring recordings made in 1981 at the concert series organised by Ulli Blobel (now boss of the Jazzwerkstatt label) and Peter Metag - skillfully bypassing officialdom - in the small East German town of Peitz. CD1 : STEVE LACY - Live at Jazzwerkstatt Peitz Solo recordings of Monk and Lacy repertoire, recorded in February 1981 CD2 : ERNST-LUDWIG PETROWSKY - Ein Nachtmittag in Peitz Solo, duo (with Harry Miller) and quintet (including Tony Oxley) recordings from the German reeds player, made in April 1981 CD3 : GUNTER BABY SOMMER / BARRE PHILLIPS / MANFRED SCHOOF / GIANLUIGI TROVESI - Peitzer Grand Mit Vieren A powerful summit meeting between musicians from East and West Germany, Italy and the USA, from September 1981 and this with an ECM which can't be legitNew York Box Vol.1 VARIOUS ARTISTS CD1 : DAVID MURRAY - Live at the Lower Manhattan Ocean Club New Year's Eve 1977 gig with Lester Bowie, Fred Hopkins and Phillip Wilson, originally released on India Navigation. CD2 : JOHN LINDBERG'S TRIPOLAR - (A)Live at Roulette, NYC String Trio of New York bassist Lindberg, with Don Davis (sax) and Kevin Norton (drums), recorded in sparkling form in New York, 2010 CD3 : LESTER BOWIE - The Great Pretender Gospel-drenched outing with Fontella Bass, Martha Bass and David Peaston on vocals. CD4 : LESTER BOWIE with WILLIAM PARKER & PHILLIP WILSON - Steel & Breath Trumpet, bass and drums trio, studio recording from NYC, 1991 Quote
clifford_thornton Posted October 27, 2015 Report Posted October 27, 2015 Pretty sure Blobel and everything associated with him is pretty sketchy. He may be licensing some things from Gebers but I'd be surprised... Quote
king ubu Posted October 27, 2015 Report Posted October 27, 2015 hm, no idea, but jazzwerkstatt has done some nice stuff, also their own recordings ... Quote
erwbol Posted October 27, 2015 Report Posted October 27, 2015 Jazzwerkstatt 026, a reissue of Cecil Taylor's Leaf Palm Hand (FMP CD 6), looks legit, credits are given. The Cover artwork is by Tony Oxley, I presume created or selected by the artist for this reissue. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted October 27, 2015 Report Posted October 27, 2015 I understand that there are a fair number of musicians who haven't been happy with Jazzwerkstatt (or his other labels) over the years. Maybe that's changed. Several titles ended up with Blobel when Helma Schleiss started running FMP. She was originally supposed to assist with distribution and instead set up a separate production-distribution company under the FMP name, eventually trying to wrest the catalog from Jost Gebers, the label's founder. Legal battles ensued and I believe he got an injunction/cease-and-desist. Anything that Blobel has from FMP is probably what she sold him, likely without the musicians' cooperation. Quote
king ubu Posted October 27, 2015 Report Posted October 27, 2015 Thought Schleiss wasn't really legal /straightforward either, appropriating by force what wasn't really hers - ugly story there, from what I've read ... but then this is one of those cases were some might feel inclined to have a right to hear stuff ... and I guess you'll always find some musician not happy with someone's label, but then that's no reason for excuses either. Quote
erwbol Posted October 27, 2015 Report Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) Anybody know what this is? It's what mjazzg said it was. Details culled from elsewhere. Edited October 27, 2015 by erwbol Quote
David Ayers Posted October 27, 2015 Report Posted October 27, 2015 Ok missed that - looking for pictures. Got the two titles I want there. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted October 28, 2015 Report Posted October 28, 2015 Thought Schleiss wasn't really legal /straightforward either, appropriating by force what wasn't really hers.Right, guess I implied that rather than outright saying it. Pretty rotten scene. Quote
johnblitweiler Posted October 28, 2015 Report Posted October 28, 2015 Two that immediately come to mind tonight: I'm very fond of the arrangements by Schlippenbach and Aki Takase in the CD "So Long, Eric: Homage to Eric Dolphy" and of the Schlippenbach trio's part of Evan Parker's birthday concert. "Monk's Casino" was a noble project, but jamming 72 Monk songs onto 3 CDs sounds to me like trying to view landmarks from an express train. Quote
jlhoots Posted October 28, 2015 Report Posted October 28, 2015 So Long, Eric & Monk's Casino are just fine for me. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted October 28, 2015 Report Posted October 28, 2015 I like Monk's Casino a lot, but not for the same reason I like Monk a lot.I'd like to get that Dolphy tribute disc at some point - looks nice. Quote
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