jazzscot Posted November 4, 2005 Report Posted November 4, 2005 I'm rating these not by how great the material is, but by how necessary the box is. I love the material on the 2nd quintet box, but you could get that from all the albums anyway, and for me that set just doesn't really stand out. Same goes for Gil Evans. So with that in mind: 1. Plugged Nickel 2. Jack Johnson 3. Live at the Blackhawk 4. Seven Steps 5. In a Silent Way ← Not to be disagreeable, but I think both the Evans and 2nd Quintet boxes have material that appears nowhere else, and not just alt takes...someone here must have this info close to hand, it's in the other part of the house and I'm lokking after my 3 yr old... ← Quote
jazzscot Posted November 4, 2005 Report Posted November 4, 2005 I would agree with danasgoodstuff re his 1st comment re: the Evans and 2nd Quintet boxes. Also I ask how can the Jack Johnson Box be in the Top 5 when it's made up of all those alt takes? Can someone convince me to buy it!! Quote
king ubu Posted November 4, 2005 Report Posted November 4, 2005 ... Also I ask how can the Jack Johnson Box be in the Top 5 when it's made up of all those alt takes? Can someone convince me to buy it!! ← I was afraid of this, too, before I bought it... but once I had made my way through it once, I loved it! The music has such a free-going, open feel, it's so uncluttered. Yes, Bitches Brew and all this great stuff is overloaded somehow... doesn't mean it's not great, but it's definitely "produced" music, while all these "alternate takes" here allow the musicians to jam and stretch out, and I like what came out a lot. I had not heard the original album before I got the box, and for me the album itself is not even the point. It's Miles doing some of his most poised playing with a great, bluesy and funky band. Works for me! Quote
jazzscot Posted November 4, 2005 Report Posted November 4, 2005 Thanks king ubu for your reply, I'll check the Jack Johnson out at my local CD supplier. Cheers!! Quote
king ubu Posted November 4, 2005 Report Posted November 4, 2005 Thanks king ubu for your reply, I'll check the Jack Johnson out at my local CD supplier. Cheers!! ← Hi! If you use the search function of the board, you should find at least two or three threads discussing that box - you'd hear some others' opinions there, too! Quote
bluesbro Posted April 6, 2006 Report Posted April 6, 2006 Would you guys feel the need to revise your lists after the Cellar Box? I need a little push to get this finally Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted April 6, 2006 Report Posted April 6, 2006 If you ask me this week, I'd probably rank 'em thusly... 1. 65-68, 2nd Quintet 2. Jack Johnson Complete 3. Miles & Gil 4. IaSW Complete 5. Miles & Trane 6. Seven Steps (haven't actually gotten this box yet, but I know most of the material) 7. Bitches Brew Complete. I'm not including the Cellar Door, cuz it's more like the Plugged Nickel (all live) -- instead of everything else nearly all being almost all studio material. (Apples and oranges.) Quote
Quincy Posted April 7, 2006 Report Posted April 7, 2006 Would you guys feel the need to revise your lists after the Cellar Box? I need a little push to get this finally I'm not willing to rank the Miles sets, but I would file Cellar Door under "I'm very happy I have it." You can get for a few pennies shy of $36 (w/ free shipping) if you join yourmusic.com. (You could always join and quit soon after if you don't want to mess with monthly $5.99 discs and a music queue.) To me it's worth a good deal more than that. If you like the live material on Live-Evil then it's a no brainer. (Nudge nudge.) And it is exciting to hear the band w/out McLaughlin. Terrific set (push push push.) Not to knock the Jack Johnson set, but it's easier to throw on a couple of discs of Cellar Door than face a bunch of outtakes spread across discs. Quote
jazzbo Posted April 7, 2006 Report Posted April 7, 2006 Cellar Door! or maybe Gil Evans! or the Second Quintet! or the Coltrane! Those are at least the top four for me. I'm sticking with my fuzzy first post. Quote
johnagrandy Posted April 11, 2006 Report Posted April 11, 2006 I once e-mailed Dave Holland asking his opinion on the best electric Miles to buy. He said "It's all great. Buy them all." I just got Cellar Door. Problem is I can only listen to electric Miles at night. So here comes sleep deprivation and underperformance at my job. Quote
GregK Posted April 11, 2006 Report Posted April 11, 2006 I once e-mailed Dave Holland asking his opinion on the best electric Miles to buy. He said "It's all great. Buy them all." I just got Cellar Door. Problem is I can only listen to electric Miles at night. So here comes sleep deprivation and underperformance at my job. how do you email dave holland?? do you know him? Quote
rostasi Posted April 11, 2006 Report Posted April 11, 2006 I sent him a get-well card many years ago after his heart attack. Told him how much I loved his Conference of the Birds & Music from Two Basses. Quote
johnagrandy Posted April 12, 2006 Report Posted April 12, 2006 how do you email dave holland?? do you know him? It's on his website http://www.daveholland.com Quote
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