RDK Posted September 14, 2005 Report Posted September 14, 2005 (edited) From what I'm reading - and proven by an on-line discography - The Last Waltz box set consists of the Bill Evans Trio's first sets at the Keystone Korner while Consecration contains all of his second sets over a week of performances. But why the hell did Milestone release them this way, which makes for far greater repetition of tunes? Wouldn't it make more sense - and be more desirable - to have the first and second sets together on the same boxes? Was there ever any explanation for this? Edited September 14, 2005 by RDK Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted September 14, 2005 Report Posted September 14, 2005 Wasn't it the case that Consecration was issued way earlier by Alfa? So, The Last Waltz was issued by Milestone first, but later they were able to reissue Consecration. At the time of The Last Waltz, they didn't have the option you suggest. Mike Quote
Ron S Posted September 14, 2005 Report Posted September 14, 2005 Also, aren't the first sets of each evening contained in "Consecration" and the second sets contained in "Last Waltz", and not the other way around? Quote
RDK Posted September 14, 2005 Author Report Posted September 14, 2005 Perhaps, Mike, but I guess the question would then be why did Alfa release it that way? It just seems weird to me. Quote
RDK Posted September 14, 2005 Author Report Posted September 14, 2005 Also, aren't the first sets of each evening contained in "Consecration" and the second sets contained in "Last Waltz", and not the other way around? ← no, but either way the point is the same... http://www.jazzdisco.org/evans/dis/c/#800901 Quote
Ron S Posted September 14, 2005 Report Posted September 14, 2005 Then this must be wrong (wouldn't be the first time). Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted September 14, 2005 Report Posted September 14, 2005 Yes, I think Last Waltz is later sets. Interesting how this stuff has now entered the legitimate Evans world, issued on Milestone (joining the Riverside and Fantasy material). Here's the quote from the Pettinger bio p. 281: ========== The trio played Keystone Korner for eight nights, starting on Sunday, August 31. All eight performances were recorded by the club owner, Todd Barkan, and issued in 1989, without authorization from the surviving artists, on an eight-CD set by Alfa Records of Tokyo called Consecration: The Last Complete Collection. Helen Keane told me specifically: "Bill was not happy with his playing while he was there, didn't know he was being recorded, and would never have approved the release of the material." ========== Hmmmmm. What a difference some dough makes. Mike Quote
vibes Posted September 14, 2005 Report Posted September 14, 2005 I already have "Turn Out The Stars," but have always been curious about these two boxes. Any recommendations on which is the better of the two, or which should be purchased first and why? Quote
jazzbo Posted September 16, 2005 Report Posted September 16, 2005 I MIGHT like Consecration better, I reach for it a bit more, but I really couldn't pinpoint why. BOTH are excellent examples in my opinion of this great trio . . . . Quote
Stereojack Posted September 16, 2005 Report Posted September 16, 2005 I think both sets have a lot to recommend them. There is so much great music here. I wonder if Helen Keane's comments related more to the fact that "Consecration" was unauthorized, not whether Bill or anyone else didn't like his performance, which is spectacular, in my opinion. Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted September 16, 2005 Report Posted September 16, 2005 I tend to agree - and because of how things later turned out, I'm rather suspect of how she shares "his" opinions with us. I suppose what she meant to say is: "Bill would never have been happy with his playing until the dollar amount changed." Mike Quote
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