Blue Notes

[clifford_thornton]

The Urbie Green 10 incher

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I always knew there was something "different" about him.

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Ouch!

Seriously, a lot of the early sides are those I have yet to hear that I actually give a shit about. I can live without the Duke Pearson big band stuff, and the later Tyner albums, things like that. Got a sizeable chunk of the 4000s but little to show for the 1500 series. And the Three Sounds can keep hanging out at Brandon's.

[sidewinder]

I can recommend those Jutta Hipp Hickory House recordings - they groove along very nicely. Very cool cover art.

[Guy Berger]

Seriously, a lot of the early sides are those I have yet to hear that I actually give a shit about. I can live without the Duke Pearson big band stuff, and the later Tyner albums,

Live without Extensions?

Guy

[WD45]

Seriously, a lot of the early sides are those I have yet to hear that I actually give a shit about. I can live without the Duke Pearson big band stuff, and the later Tyner albums,

Live without Extensions?

Guy

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Yeah, those late Tyner albums [Extensions, Time for Tyner, Tender Moments, Expansions] are some of my favorite Blue Notes! Great players, great charts, great tunes.

[Guy Berger]

Seriously, a lot of the early sides are those I have yet to hear that I actually give a shit about. I can live without the Duke Pearson big band stuff, and the later Tyner albums,

Live without Extensions?

Guy

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Yeah, those late Tyner albums [Extensions, Time for Tyner, Tender Moments, Expansions] are some of my favorite Blue Notes! Great players, great charts, great tunes.

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I like Asante and what I've heard from Cosmos better than Tender Moments and Time for Tyner, his two weakest albums from BN IMHO. (Though still pretty damn good... if only he'd gotten Freddie or Woody instead of Lee for that session, and given the musicians more blowing room!)

Guy

[Kalo]

(coming out of the closet, not a huge Herbie fan)

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You're not alone, Soul Stream, Herbie never did that much for me, either.

Blue Note was great, but frankly there was as much great music at the time on Prestige and Riverside, not to mention other labels.

[Jazz Kat]

Ike Quebeck, It Might As Well Be Spring

[Alexander Hawkins]

(coming out of the closet, not a huge Herbie fan)

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You're not alone, Soul Stream, Herbie never did that much for me, either.

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I can happily cope without Herbie too.

On topic, I can't wait for the Elmo Hopes which are about to appear.

[Clunky]

there will be a whole I've not heard but of those I know and care about

Andrew Hill- the balance of the Mosaic box not so far eleased on single CDs

Tyrone Washington- Natural Essence- not bothered by the "train wreck2 material

Bobby H- Happening /Oblique and any thing else of interest form late 60s that hasn't been out on CD

er............ that's it , enough of Art, Horace, Hank and Lee to last a life time

[BruceH]

(coming out of the closet, not a huge Herbie fan)

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You're not alone, Soul Stream, Herbie never did that much for me, either.

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I can happily cope without Herbie too.

On topic, I can't wait for the Elmo Hopes which are about to appear.

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I've got to agree.

For some time I've thought of Herbie as rather overated, but was afraid to say so out loud.

[Guy Berger]

(coming out of the closet, not a huge Herbie fan)

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You're not alone, Soul Stream, Herbie never did that much for me, either.

I wonder if Herbie is dismissed (or taken for granted) because his playing style has been so thoroughly assimilated by other pianists. It's apples and oranges as well as personal taste, but I think he was better than almost any other pianist recording for BN between '55 and '70.

Guy

Edited September 1, 2005 by Guy

[king ubu]

(coming out of the closet, not a huge Herbie fan)

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You're not alone, Soul Stream, Herbie never did that much for me, either.

I wonder if Herbie is dismissed (or taken for granted) because his playing style has been so thoroughly assimilated by other pianists. It's apples and oranges as well as personal taste, but I think he was better than almost any other pianist recording for BN between '55 and '70.

Guy

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I'm with Guy here! ALl those marvellous sessions Herbie played on in his early years... the BN Sixties box booklet gives a very nice account also of his non BN or BN sideman appearances - they are many more than I usually think, and they include many a jewel of a piano solo.

For a long time I took Herbie for granted, somehow, didn't even warm to his playing with Miles really (I liked it, but I didn't "feel" it on an emotional level - that has since changed). Herbie had (has? maybe in the HSHB group, yes, not sure otherwise) so much style and taste, he was so lyrical at some spots, yet albe to lay a mean groove at others, definitely a very very talented musician, and yes, I think I would agree with Guy's statement about him being (or having been) better than most other pianists on BN during that period.

[clifford_thornton]

I think the main reason why I rarely buy any Herbie Hancock or Tyner albums is because they are both often so cloying, as well as copied by other stylists of the era. Now, Hancock's bag circa 1965 is fine by me - Some Other Stuff, Spring, Extensions, etc. - but there is so much of it that just seems like I should be listening to something, I don't know, else...

Tyner with Trane, yes, Tyner without Trane, no.

[Sahara Blue Orchestra]

None of the Tad Jones blue note recordings. No Bechet or Fats Navarro either.

[Jazz Kat]

I just bought Stanely Turrentine & The 3 Sounds' Blue Hour today, in PA at an antique indoor flea market. It has been one i have been wanting to check out. I guess, I can scratch that one off the list.

Edited September 4, 2005 by Jazz Kat

[Dan Gould]

I just bought Stanely Turrentine & The 3 Sounds' Blue Hour today, in PA at an antique indoor flea market. It has been one i have been wanting to check out. I guess, I can scratch that one off the list.

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I'd be interested to hear your reaction. Some find this a major snooze. Others think its a classic.

[Jazz Kat]

I was worried about that. All the songs are slow? I kind of got the impression reading the linder notes in the car on the way home from vacation.

[Dan Gould]

I was worried about that. All the songs are slow? I kind of got the impression reading the linder notes in the car on the way home from vacation.

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All the songs are late night blues played with tremendous feeling and soul.

Here's the best way to experience this album:

put on headphones and turn off all lights in your listening room. Remove all outside stimuli and let the music take over. You should be transported, thrilled and amazed.

Or, on the other hand, if you are like the people who don't "get" this album the way others do, you will fall asleep, and fortunately you will have the lights out already so you can enjoy your nap.

[JSngry]

Here's the best way to experience this album:

Get your woman and turn off all lights in your listening room. Remove all outside stimuli, including clothing, and let the music take over. You should be transported, thrilled and amazed.

Of course, for a 16 year old, this is probably not prudent advice. But it'll give you something to look forward to.

[Jazz Kat]

I was worried about that. All the songs are slow? I kind of got the impression reading the linder notes in the car on the way home from vacation.

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All the songs are late night blues played with tremendous feeling and soul.

Here's the best way to experience this album:

put on headphones and turn off all lights in your listening room. Remove all outside stimuli and let the music take over. You should be transported, thrilled and amazed.

Or, on the other hand, if you are like the people who don't "get" this album the way others do, you will fall asleep, and fortunately you will have the lights out already so you can enjoy your nap.

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I'm afraid if I turn off the lights, my stereo shall shut down. Musta been wired that way or sumthin.

On a serious note, I sampled the album a couple of minutes ago. I get the over all theme. It's very soulful. Harris's Blue Riff was kind of grooving. I doubt most drummers would really dig this album, but just listening to this album, it's really sensual. I'll try putting it on, when my girl comes over next week.