brownie Posted August 22, 2005 Report Posted August 22, 2005 Some more that I have not seen mentioned yet, all from vinyls: George Braith 'Laughin' Soul' (7474) RVG Jaki Byard 'Out Front' (7397) RVG Willis Jackson 'Thunderbird' (7232) Recorded at Music Makers Studio, N.Y. (no other name) Willis Jackson 'In My Solitude' (Moodsville 17) RVG Willis Jackson 'Jackson's Action' (7348) RVG James Moody 'Don't Look Away Now' (7625) George Klabin Johnny Hammond Smith 'Talk That Talk' (NJ 8241) RVG Chuck Wayne 'Morning Mist' (7367) RVG Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted August 22, 2005 Author Report Posted August 22, 2005 OK! That list of "others" matched perfectly with what I've got. Can I then confirm RVG for these? Pat Bowie Feelin' Good Teddy Edwards - Nothin' But The Truth Stan Hunter - Trip On The Strip Roger Kellaway - Trio Sonny Phillips Sure 'Nuff Pepper Adams Encounter Sylvia Syms For Once In My Life Pat Martino El Hombre Montego Joe - Wild & Warm Wally Richardson - Soul Guru Don Friedman Metamorphosis Charles Kynard - 3 sessions (2 in LA but who is engineer?) Rusty Bryant - 2 sessions Boogaloo Joe Jones - 4 sessions Buddy Terry - 2 sessions Morris Nanton - 4 sessions Harold Mabern - 3 sessions Billy Butler - 2 sessions Is any engineer listed for location recordings (Trudy Pitts; Charles McPherson; Groove Holmes)? What about the Ammons 11/10-11/1969 sessions? Down Beat says they were in NY, but some listings show Chicago. I know Prestige was recording Ammons in Chicago in 1962 (with Sleepy Anderson) but this time the band looks like NYC (Pretty Purdie, Sony/Philips - I mean Sonny Phillips, et al.) Also, I could use clarification on the ones like Freddie McCoy, Stitt, et al. listed above as "where indicated" - or perhaps the specific exceptions so I know which ones are listed as RVG and which ones are blank, with possibly more details to be found on LPs. Feel free to use issue numbers or abbreviations or whatever to avoid typing too much. Thanks to all for much excellent info! Mike Quote
brownie Posted August 22, 2005 Report Posted August 22, 2005 Mike, from your list: Pepper Adams 'Encounter' (7677) Tommy Nola Harold Mabern 'Greasy Kid Stuff' (7764) RVG Teddy Edwards 'It's All Right' (7522) Richard Alderson Teddy Edwards 'Nothin' But the Truth' (7518) RVG Quote
Stereojack Posted August 22, 2005 Report Posted August 22, 2005 OK! That list of "others" matched perfectly with what I've got. Can I then confirm RVG for these? Teddy Edwards - Nothin' But The Truth Roger Kellaway - Trio Pepper Adams Encounter Don Friedman Metamorphosis Harold Mabern - 3 sessions Billy Butler - 2 sessions Is any engineer listed for location recordings (Trudy Pitts; Charles McPherson; Groove Holmes)? What about the Ammons 11/10-11/1969 sessions? Down Beat says they were in NY, but some listings show Chicago. I know Prestige was recording Ammons in Chicago in 1962 (with Sleepy Anderson) but this time the band looks like NYC (Pretty Purdie, Sony/Philips - I mean Sonny Phillips, et al.) Also, I could use clarification on the ones like Freddie McCoy, Stitt, et al. listed above as "where indicated" - or perhaps the specific exceptions so I know which ones are listed as RVG and which ones are blank, with possibly more details to be found on LPs. Feel free to use issue numbers or abbreviations or whatever to avoid typing too much. Thanks to all for much excellent info! Mike ← Teddy Edwards - Nothin' But the Truth - Van Gelder Roger Kellaway - Trio -no engineer identified. This one is produced by Lew Futterman; might be a purchased session. Pepper Adams - Encounter - Tommy Nola. Produced by Gust & (Fred) Norsworthy Don Friedman - Metamorphosis - Van Gelder Harold Mabern - A Few Miles From Memphis - Van Gelder Harold Mabern - Rakin' and Scrapin' - Van Gelder Harold Mabern - Workin' and Wailin' - Van Gelder Harold Mabern - Greasy Kid Stuff - Van Gelder Ricard Groove Holmes - Living Soul (live) - Van Gelder Quote
Jim R Posted August 22, 2005 Report Posted August 22, 2005 For Ammons Nov 10/11 '69, Ruppli lists NYC (Sup. Bob Porter; RVG) ===== I overlooked a few pages of 1970/71 issues. RVG is listed as the engineer for every NY session between January '70 and May '71 (including a few pages of additions toward the end of the book), except for the following: Eric Kloss "Consciousness" (Sup. Schlitten; Eng. Goodman) Dexter Gordon "The Panther" (Sup. Schlitten; Eng. Goodman) Dexter Gordon "LOVE!" ("The Jumpin' Blues") (Sup. Schlitten; Eng. Goodman) ===== Location recordings: Trudy Pitts- (Live at Baron's, NYC 5/24/68) Sup. Cal Lampley; Eng. Orville O'Brien Charles McPherson- "The Quintet - Live" (Five Spot, 10/13/66) Sup. Schlitten; Eng. Jerry Newman Groove Holmes- "Live at Basie's" (4/22/66) Sup. Cal Lampley; Eng. RVG Quote
Jim R Posted August 22, 2005 Report Posted August 22, 2005 Stitt- "Pow!" (Sup. Richard Carpenter; no eng. listed) "Soul Electricity!" (Porter; RVG) "Night Letter" (Porter; RVG) "Night Crawler" (Lampley; RVG) "Turn It On!" (Porter; RVG) Freddie McCoy- "Lonely Avenue" (Lampley; RVG) "Spider Man" (Lampley; RVG) "Funk Drops" (Lampley; RVG) (4/10/67) (Lampley; RVG) (5/4/67) (Lampley; RVG) (10/2/67) (Lampley; RVG) (10/4/67) (Lampley; RVG) (1/24/68) (Lampley; RVG) "Soul Yogi" (Lampley; RVG) "Listen Here" (Lampley; no eng. listed) Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted August 22, 2005 Report Posted August 22, 2005 I know Prestige was recording Ammons in Chicago in 1962 (with Sleepy Anderson) but this time the band looks like NYC (Pretty Purdie, Sony/Philips - I mean Sonny Phillips, et al.)← The '62 Chicago recordings were made by Chess/Argo. At the time of recording Prestige had nothing to do with the sessions. Quote
Jim R Posted August 22, 2005 Report Posted August 22, 2005 Willis Jackson- 6/18/64 (Lampley; no eng. listed) "Soul Grabber" (Lampley; RVG) "Star Bag" (Lampley; RVG) "Swivel Hips" (Porter; RVG) "Gator's Groove" (Porter; RVG) Quote
Jim R Posted August 22, 2005 Report Posted August 22, 2005 "This Is Billy Butler" and "Guitar Soul" - Porter; RVG Quote
Peter A Posted August 22, 2005 Report Posted August 22, 2005 Some additions: Stan Hunter - Trip On The Strip - Rec. RvG; Prod. Cal Lampley; Pat Martino - El Hombre - Rec. RvG; Prod. Cal Lampley; Sonny Phillips - Sure 'Nuff - Rec. RvG; Sup. Bob Porter; Charles Kynard - Reelin' With A Feelin' - Rec. Hank McGill (RCA Victor); Sup. Bob Porter; Billy Butler - Night Life - Rec. RvG; Sup. Bob Porter; Morris Nanton Trio - Preface - Rec. RvG; Prod. Cal Lampley; Morris Nanton Trio - Soul Fingers - Rec. RvG; Prod. Cal Lampley. Quote
Z-Man Posted August 30, 2005 Report Posted August 30, 2005 What about the Ammons 11/10-11/1969 sessions? Down Beat says they were in NY, but some listings show Chicago. I know Prestige was recording Ammons in Chicago in 1962 (with Sleepy Anderson) but this time the band looks like NYC (Pretty Purdie, Sony/Philips - I mean Sonny Phillips, et al.) ← LP cover of "Brother Jug" (7792) lists recording by RVG, supervision by Bob Porter. Quote
CJ Shearn Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 what the hell? it doesn't make any sense RVG would do sessions in NY unless they were live on location things, but didn't he stop doing that in the mid 60's? Quote
marcello Posted August 31, 2005 Report Posted August 31, 2005 Gene Ammons Septet Gene Ammons (ts) Prince James, Houston Person (ts -5) Junior Mance (p) Buster Williams (b) Frankie Jones (d) Candido Camero (cga) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, November 10, 1969 1. Tastin' the Jug PR 7739 2. Here's That Rainy Day - 3. Madame Queen Pr. 45-737, PR 7739 4. I Wonder PR 7739 5. The Jungle Boss Pr. 45-729, PR 7739 6. Ger-Ru PR 7792 * Gene Ammons - The Boss Is Back! (PR 7739, PR 10023) * Gene Ammons - Brother Jug! (PR 7792, PR 10021) * Gene Ammons - Jungle Strut c/w Madame Queen (Pr. 45-737) * Gene Ammons - The Jungle Boss, Pt. 1&2 (Pr. 45-729) Gene Ammons Quintet Gene Ammons (ts) Sonny Phillips (org) Billy Butler (g -2/6) Bob Bushnell (el-b) Bernard Purdie (d) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, November 11, 1969 1. Feeling Good PR 7739 2. Jungle Strut Pr. 45-737, PR 7792, P 10084 3. Didn't We Pr. 45-734, PR 7792, P 10084 4. He's a Real Gone Guy Pr. 45-742, PR 7792 5. Son of a Preacher Man Pr. 45-734, PR 7792 6. Blue Velvet PR 7792 * Gene Ammons - The Boss Is Back! (PR 7739, PR 10023) * Gene Ammons - Brother Jug! (PR 7792, PR 10021) * Gene Ammons Greatest Hits (Pr. P 10084) * Gene Ammons - Jungle Strut c/w Madame Queen (Pr. 45-737) * Gene Ammons - Son of a Preacher Man c/w Didn't We (Pr. 45-734) * Gene Ammons - Jug Eyes c/w He's a Real Gone Guy (Pr. 45-742) Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted August 31, 2005 Author Report Posted August 31, 2005 Please, when I ask a question do NOT give me an answer based on information from the Japanese jazzdisco.org site - particularly without crediting the source. That site is packed with errors and I'm trying to FIX those. That site copies errors and introduces new ones of its own. It's wrong so much that even when it's right I'm cautious. As for RVG in New York, it needs to be understood that discographies and other sources have in the past equated "NYC" with "the New York metropolitan area" - so it's difficult to tell sometimes. Another reason why I'm asking these questions. BTW, RVG certainly did do some location recording after the 1960s, the 1986 Uptown album of Tommy Flanagan at the Village Vanguard comes to mind immediately. Mike Quote
Bill Fenohr Posted September 6, 2005 Report Posted September 6, 2005 The liners for Freddie McCoy's Listen Here credits RVG. Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted October 13, 2005 Author Report Posted October 13, 2005 Jim said "All RVG" for Johnny Hammond Smith, but I am getting info that the June 18, 1968 date (Nasty) was done at Town Sound by Orville O'Brien. Does Ruppli say RVG for this? Thanks - Mike Quote
Jim R Posted October 13, 2005 Report Posted October 13, 2005 Mike, fwiw, my copy lists RVG with Cal Lampley supervising. Quote
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