P.L.M Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 (edited) Thank you, INDESTRUCTIBLE for your compliment (if it was really sincere). But this is far to be awesome. I can barely write in ENGLISH and I just try to translate what I wrote for an another board (a FRENCH one where I write in FRENCH, of course). As I couldn't translet it correctly, I've been oblige to live a part of this little thing out. But, nevetheless, thanks again. Edited July 14, 2006 by P.L.M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.L.M Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 (edited) This is a rather well thought out article by Rob Hughes, who writes for the International Herald Tribune, Hughes on Zidane. I find this article completely DUMB. I don't mind what ZIDANE has done. This incident has, at least, taken from his shoulders the stupid and terrible burden of a SAINT that the media has built around him during this World Cup (before that, nobodys, even in his own country, where part of the supporters of the FRENCH team wanted him out of the team, didn't care about the man anymore). The guy has a dark side. GREAT, as least that means that he is a human being. A TRUE one with his contradictions, his pontaneous and unforeseeable reactions, his bad and good decisions. Now, he can join the club of the dark angels of football alonside with BEST who drank himself to death, CRUYFF who refuses to play for his country in Argentina because it was against his political option, MARADONA who nearly kills himself because of drugs abused or CANTONA who kungfued a racist spectator when sent off during a match. A better bunch to be with than these ICONISH and, oh! so clean figures (PELE, BECKENBAUEUR, PLATINI, all bussiness man SO respectable) that media praise and who are the official FACES of the legend of the football. If football is violent, it's because life is violent, than the world is at war and blood is all over the six o'clock news. Media and "moral" authorities should deal with that before pointing a finger about a football match incident who'll never stop children and innocent to died in Israel, in Palestine, in Liban, in Irak, in Aghanistan, in Africa. Or in our suburb. I remember a journalism from the french newspaper LIBERATION telling me some years ago than he has witness often children soldiers in LIBERYA playing FOOTBALL with the heads of people they just killed and behaded minutes before. CHILDREN playing FOOTBALL with the heads of dead people who was children soldier like them, women or men who could have been mother or father to them. Now, than ZIDANE has hit MATERAZZI for whatever reason, good or bad, seems like a big NOTHING in front of this reality. Oh, yes, I forget that was a BAD exemple to give to kids all over the WORLD. To wich kids, by the way? Edited July 14, 2006 by P.L.M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave James Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 I've been trying to catch up on my New Yorker reading of late. Last night I came across an article from the July 8th issue about American soccer that I thought was pretty well done. It's actually tucked in and threaded through the author's recollections of his time in Germany during the first week or so of the World Cup, so it's not by any means only about the American squad. If you have access to the magazine and haven't yet read it, it's worth looking into. Up over and out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Looks like all of France is very comfortable with laying the blame for their loss on Materazzi [or anybody else for that matter]. Comment dit-on "weasel" en francais? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASNL77 Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 (edited) Looks like all of France is very comfortable with laying the blame for their loss on Materazzi [or anybody else for that matter]. Comment dit-on "weasel" en francais? What makes you say that?? Could you please avoid talking in the name of so many people you don't even know including myself? I know that your president has a slight tendency to speak for the rest of the world, but we aren't like him on this forum, are we? You already made hints about France having bribed Brazil in the quarter finals, now you are putting words in their mouth about the incident with Materazzi..... I have been reading French papers and I have watched a lot of French TV programmes since Sunday and I can assure you that what you are saying is a load of rubbish. Comment dit-on 'quand on ne sait pas, on la ferme' en anglais? Edited July 14, 2006 by ASNL77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 The Zidane game... http://widelec.org/zidane.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave James Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 (edited) ESPN is reporting that Bruce Arenas is out as the coach of the U.S. soccer team. They say the world is their stage in terms of filling the vacancy, but speculation centers on the German coach Jurgen Klinsmann in spite of what others have already said, i.e that this isn't going to happen. Up over and out. Edited July 14, 2006 by Dave James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 (edited) Looks like all of France is very comfortable with laying the blame for their loss on Materazzi [or anybody else for that matter]. Comment dit-on "weasel" en francais? What makes you say that?? Could you please avoid talking in the name of so many people you don't even know including myself? I know that your president has a slight tendency to speak for the rest of the world, but we aren't like him on this forum, are we? You already made hints about France having bribed Brazil in the quarter finals, now you are putting words in their mouth about the incident with Materazzi..... I have been reading French papers and I have watched a lot of French TV programmes since Sunday and I can assure you that what you are saying is a load of rubbish. Comment dit-on 'quand on ne sait pas, on la ferme' en anglais? I reserve the right to speak out of my arse!!! Apprenez comment vivre avec cela, mon semblable, mon frere. HAPPY BASTILLE DAY!!!! It would've been nice to escort the Cup through Arc de Triomphe, alas... PS- Nice job on the fonts. Took you a few minutes, didn't it? Edited July 14, 2006 by Dmitry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASNL77 Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 (edited) Looks like all of France is very comfortable with laying the blame for their loss on Materazzi [or anybody else for that matter]. Comment dit-on "weasel" en francais? What makes you say that?? Could you please avoid talking in the name of so many people you don't even know including myself? I know that your president has a slight tendency to speak for the rest of the world, but we aren't like him on this forum, are we? You already made hints about France having bribed Brazil in the quarter finals, now you are putting words in their mouth about the incident with Materazzi..... I have been reading French papers and I have watched a lot of French TV programmes since Sunday and I can assure you that what you are saying is a load of rubbish. Comment dit-on 'quand on ne sait pas, on la ferme' en anglais? I reserve the right to speak out of my arse!!! Apprenez comment vivre avec cela, mon semblable, mon frere. HAPPY BASTILLE DAY!!!! It would've been nice to escort the Cup through Arc de Triomphe, alas... PS- Nice job on the fonts. Took you a few minutes, didn't it? No probs! Not to worry. You are right, it took me ages to do it! I am still a bit edgy five days after the final. I still can't believe we lost this game. I forgot it was Bastille day today...... Thanks for reminding me! Edited July 14, 2006 by ASNL77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Juventus, Lazio and Fiorentina Demoted: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6071400985.html So let's now wait for the result of the FIFA Zidane/Materazzi inquiry, and then this thread can die peacefully ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 (edited) Juventus, Lazio and Fiorentina Demoted: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6071400985.html So let's now wait for the result of the FIFA Zidane/Materazzi inquiry, and then this thread can die peacefully ... ...and we can turn our attention to the various Euro 2008 qualifying groups, including the one with France AND Italy... Edited July 14, 2006 by J.A.W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Juventus, Lazio and Fiorentina Demoted: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6071400985.html So let's now wait for the result of the FIFA Zidane/Materazzi inquiry, and then this thread can die peacefully ... ...and we can turn our attention to the various Euro 2008 qualifying groups, including the one with France AND Italy... Perhaps then it will be the time to start a new thread for football generally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Some of those individuals banned got stiff sentences: 4 to 5 years. I assume for the teams demoted, the teams previously relegated get to stay up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Juventus, Lazio and Fiorentina Demoted: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6071400985.html So let's now wait for the result of the FIFA Zidane/Materazzi inquiry, and then this thread can die peacefully ... ...and we can turn our attention to the various Euro 2008 qualifying groups, including the one with France AND Italy... Perhaps then it will be the time to start a new thread for football generally. Qualifying starts in two months' time (September 2006). I'm eagerly awaiting your Euro 2008 thread, Brad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 I assume for the teams demoted, the teams previously relegated get to stay up. The Italian football association will wait until the verdicts are final before deciding what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Zidane's a PUSSY! Here's what a REAL MAN would've done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indestructible! Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 So AC Milan was only given a 15-point penalty (and no European competition)? Sounds like they got off a little more lightly than I thought they would. Being 15 points down to Inter starting the year, they still might win Serie A anyway! Cheers, Shane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indestructible! Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Zidane's a PUSSY! Here's what a REAL MAN would've done. "When the seagulls follow the trawler, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea" Greatest. Press. Conference.EVER!!! Cheers, Shane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indestructible! Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Zidane's a PUSSY! Here's what a REAL MAN would've done. JOGA BONITO this, MF!!! Aye, there's a GREAT spokesperson for sportsmanship!!! Good call, Nike! Cheers, Shane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Goren. Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Scolari extended his contract with Porugal: http://home.skysports.com/worldcup/article...s+Portugal+deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 (edited) I assume for the teams demoted, the teams previously relegated get to stay up. The Italian football association will wait until the verdicts are final before deciding what to do. According to German football magazine "Der Kicker" the three relegated clubs: FC Messina, US Lecce and Treviso FBC, will stay up. Internazionale Milano, AS Roma, Chievo Verona and US Palermo will play in next season's Champions League (two of them will have to qualify for the group stage first). Edited July 15, 2006 by J.A.W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Was away in southern France in a spot where not even mobile phone work and could not get an internet connection but managed to watch the WC games on a bad TV relay. Was very pleased at how the French team managed to come back from nowhere. Loved the way they managed to go past Spain, Brazil and Portugal! Quite a different team spirit from the original one which barely managed to get it together in the first round. Zidane showed his magic during those second round games and proved once more what a great soccer player he still is. He also showed his talent as a stretfighting man! Wished he had avoided this ugly display! France could have won that final with the Italian players obviously at the end of their ropes in the overtime. But win they did and they did not steal their victory. The two best teams were on hand for the final! Forza Italia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcoliv Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 i fully agree with you Brownie, as usual Marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 From the BBC: Zinedine Zidane has been banned for three games and fined £3,260 for head-butting Italy's Marco Materazzi during the World Cup final. Following an investigation by world governing body Fifa, Materazzi was suspended for two games and fined £2,170 for provoking Zidane. A Fifa statement said: "Both players stressed Materazzi's comments had been defamatory but not of a racist nature." Zidane's ban is academic as he retired from football after the finals. However the 34-year-old will instead work with football's world governing body Fifa for three days. Fifa added: "Zinedine Zidane has agreed to do community service work with children and youngsters. "During the course of their hearings both players also apologised to Fifa for their inappropriate behaviour and expressed their regret at the incident." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Four more clubs are now being investigated in Italy: Reggina, Lecce, Messina en Siena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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