Peter Friedman Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 Nat made a nice (but not great) quartet recording titled "Naturally' for Jazzland. It featured 2 different rhythm sections. Half the tracks had Wynton Kelly, Paul Chambers and Philly Joe Jones. The other half had Joe Zawinul, Sam Jones, and Louis Hayes. My personal taste does not go to the later "electrified, overly commercial" Cannonball recordings. I like just about everything by Cannonball in his early days beginning with the the Savoy and on through the Riverside days. However, I prefer his band when Yusef Lateef and Joe Zawinul were in the group. To the best of my knowledge there were 5 CDs released by that Cannonball Sextet. Jazz Workshop Revisited Dizzy's Business In New York Nippon Soul Lugano 1963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 Peter, I hear ya', but neither of these new releases are electrified, nor are they overly commercial. Both have the obligatory soul-jazz pieces (played the way those type things should be played, imo), but both are also basically the type of thing that somebody who doesn't like electrified and/or overly commercial Cannonball ought to enjoy just fine. Plenty of straight-ahead playing on both. Now, it's geek time - why is the label on both these the turquoise, "dome" variant of a Capitol label? Where's the good ol' "rainbow" label? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Johnson Posted August 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Now, it's geek time - why is the label on both these the turquoise, "dome" variant of a Capitol label? Where's the good ol' "rainbow" label? I was wondering the same thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 ... However, I prefer his band when Yusef Lateef and Joe Zawinul were in the group. To the best of my knowledge there were 5 CDs released by that Cannonball Sextet. Jazz Workshop Revisited Dizzy's Business In New York Nippon Soul Lugano 1963 ← plus the just reissued (but not on CD, at least not over here...) "Cannonball in Europe!", a terrific live album, maybe - together with "Nippon Soul" my favourite Cannonball recording! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Well, I've listened to both these new releases a few times. Have to say. . . and it will upset a few probably. . .I become less and less an Oliver Nelson fan as time goes by. . . I just don't want to relisten to a lot of the material he has arranged and conducted. But I've always liked Domination because of Cannon and the energy and verve he brings, charged by all that sound around him. And Experience in E. . . why did they have to mess with the tapes and remove parts? I haven't heard the original with the synth parts, but I sure would have liked to be able to! It's still a great piece that I enjoy a lot . . . . Money in the Pocket is a real gem. Herbie Lewis! Working band doing what they do best! This one I'm going to play and play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryCurleyMoe Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 (edited) Perhaps my all-time favorite Cannonball Capitol album has not been released on cd to date - not sure why. Any of you hip to the "Live!" album from 1964 - Capitol ST2399? This session at the Manne-Hole is SMOKING! PLUS - one of my favorite ballads - "The Song My Lady Sings" - is rendered here with superlative beauty! Features Cannon, Lloyd, Nat, Zawinul, Sam Jones, & Louis Hayes...A MUST HAVE, IMO! "Live in Europe" is quite good - and the audience response IS awesome! Edited August 26, 2005 by LarryCurleyMoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 "Live" IS killer indeed! Hope someone reissues that soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Johnson Posted August 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Paging Water records! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeCity Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 I just d/l the two sides from iTunes and am digging them both. Hearing all that audience chatter on "Money.." makes me not feel quite so bad about people talking through my own gigs! If they can't shut up for Cannonball... Time for me to be the "TURD IN THE PUNCH BOWL". ← I got a Japanese import of Cannonball with Strings about 15 years ago, and everytime I hear him take that burning break on "Surrey with the Fringe on Top", the phrase "polishing a turd" comes to mind. Anyone else? --Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Perhaps my all-time favorite Cannonball Capitol album has not been released on cd to date - not sure why. Any of you hip to the "Live!" album from 1964 - Capitol ST2399? This session at the Manne-Hole is SMOKING! PLUS - one of my favorite ballads - "The Song My Lady Sings" - is rendered here with superlative beauty! Features Cannon, Lloyd, Nat, Zawinul, Sam Jones, & Louis Hayes...A MUST HAVE, IMO! ← You are making me very sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Friedman Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Ok, I am convinced and have ordered both newly issued Cannonball CDs from CD Universe. Thanks for reminding me of the 6th Cannonball CD that has Yusef lateef and Joe Zawinul. I do have and very much like "Cannonball In Europe" on Capitol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Just got done w/Money..., and all I can say is that most of the people who post here are going to want this one. It ain't "perfect", but it damn sure is GOOD. Ignore it at you peril! ← I just heard Money in the Pocket for the first time, and that strikes me as one hell of an understatement. Forget perfect. How about pure dynamite? The whole disc smokes, but Cannonball's solo on "Here Me Takin' to Ya" has instantly become a personal favorite. Can rhythmic nuances on the blues get any deeper than that!!!???? Wholly shit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 I've had these albums for a couple of months now and "Money" is really HOT! I'm a great fan of Nat; I don't think he was second to Cannon because he was "less talented". I think it was because of the kind of person he was. First, he chose to use the cornet, which is a softer instrument than trumpet. Second, if you listen to the albums he made towards the end of his life - particularly "Workin'" - you'll find him taking second place to Vincent Herring, despite the fact that it was Nat's band! As Cannon said, he came from a very distinguished family. I can't recollect any other band that was so together, musically and personally as the Adderleys, with the exception of Houston Person and Etta Jones bands, over a period of over 30 years. Seeing them live was wonderful. Hearing them live on the "A night in Roppungi" album that I got a few months ago is just as good. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 I have the vinylzed "Domination." I dig it. I dig all the Balls of that vintage. ← Care to rephrase that? I know what you mean, but it might be open to a less than savory interpretation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 I'll just leave it as it is. I'll explain it to anyone who doesn't understand! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMP Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 I second the above recommendation for his Capitol "live" at Shelly's Manne-Hole, and can't figure out how this has been overlooked. And, while the recent "Money" is a good one (especially for the change-of-pace song selection), those sticks are a real distraction. Think I might prefer that Japanese concert from about the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I second everything Jim says below. This is a great recording. No frills, not the typical contrived jazz "live album", but just a great band in action doing what they do best. Dang! Still haven't gotten mine! But good things are worth waiting for! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You'll be well-pleased by Money..., I assure you. It's live and unedited. Virtually screams WORKING BAND IN ACTION!!!! if you know what I mean (and I know that you do). This is right at the time when Ball began to open up harmonically, and if there's not a lot of it going on, there's enough to notice. There's also a heretofore unheard Zawinul composition that has a Mingus-y/early-Shorter quality to it. Pretty interesting historical find, that one is. But overall, the attraction is just the energy and the good vibe. These fools didn't goof on nothin', they just played it all really, REALLY, well. And play it all they did - the balance of presentation is impeccable. From bossa to boogaloo to hardass uptempo burns to standard balladry to progressive, it's all hear, and it all sounds just so damn FINE. God bless Cannonball Adderley, and God bless working bands, if any still exist. But - you'll probably be less well-pleased when you read in the liner notes what else was on the tapes and din't get released here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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