Bright Moments Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 surprised no mention of this one yet: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Kat Posted January 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 I been meaning to get that one. I see the cover all the time. It was just RVG'd right? For anyone who has heard it, is it just improvisations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 It's pretty structured improvisations. A beauty! Don't waste time... Get it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Hearing Gato rip on Latin America Chpt 1 was one of the things that made me want to pick up a sax in the first place, despairing of ever getting anything close to that sound was one of the reasons I put the sax down for so long. Pretty much everything up thru the Impulses is worth hearing. Two not mentioned yet El Gato w/Oliver Nelson arranging and trading licks on the title tune and Yesterdays with a particularly florid rendition of Jerome Kern's title tune and a honking blues dedicated to John Coltrane even if it sounded to my ears more King Curtis with a bunch of percusion (in a good way). I'd love to hear him play the Drifters psuedo-latin hits of the early 60s but that seems unlikely. Haven't heard anything by him in decades that I did particularly like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 (edited) At the time he had gotten his family out of Argentina just before the military junta got ahold of them. Wow - didn't realise that he was affected by all of that bullshit. My admiration goes up even more. Cherry's 'Symphony' is of course excellent but also highly recommended is Alan Shorter's 'Orgasm' - another 60s session where Barbieri fits into the conception very well indeed. I have some of the Impulse 'Chapter' LPs on vinyl and will have to dig them out. The 'Live in NY' one is particularly strong from what I recall. Edited January 14, 2006 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 Yeah, Orgasm is a motherfucker - I have it on a UK Polydor version from the late '60s/early '70s, titled Parabolic, and the liner notes strangely state that it is the first issue anywhere of the material. Very odd. This is corroborated with the liner notes to Tes Esat, which talk about a date (for Verve) lying in the can. Anyhoo, I'd like to hear some of Gato's early work from Rome, with Giorgio Azzolini and that crowd. I'm willing to bet it's straighter material, but the reports are strong on those records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 I have one sideman appearance on a Rearward cd. . . I hear a strong Coltrane influence there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 Yeah, Orgasm is a motherfucker - I have it on a UK Polydor version from the late '60s/early '70s, titled Parabolic[/b That must have been one of Alan Bates' issues. No doubt the moral majority couldn't handle the original title. Would have caused a few blue-rinse heart palpatations amongst the racks of Matt Munro, Johnny Mathis, Andy Williams etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 That was certainly one thought I had. I can't remember if it's Bates or not - It's got a Verve label and Polydor information, with a 1969 publishing date. I just think it's very weird that Richard Williams goes on and on in the notes that this is the first issue anywhere of the material. Confusing! Sounds great, though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMP Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 You sort-of have to hand it to Herb Alpert - I can't think of a less likely candidate for a series of disco jazz albums (and commercially successful, at that) than Barbierii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 I'm being called upon to cover Barbieri's version of "Europa" this weekend, one of those things that I've long heard but never really gotten inside of, and...it's really a masterful performance. Melodic, flowing, subtly shaped contours in the line, superb control of the instrument, the whole thing has a flow to it that is elegantly liquid. Rereading this thread, somebody said that improvising is overrated. Well, I don't know about that, but I do think that true lyricism, the ability to sing a melody through an instrument & endow it with a body and a shape all its own, is highly underrated. I'll take Barbieri playing something like this like this, even in a "commercial" setting, over a collection of well-studied "licks" players far more often than not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Amen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 (edited) Amen. And a second Amen. The Flying Dutchman sides, especially 'El Pampero', are my favorites, but I'm a big fan of 'Caliente', the A&M album with "Europa" on it. Alpert was really able to catch lightning in a bottle on that album, an incredible performance by Barbieri start to finish. It transcends the genre the way something like how the Stan Getz 'Focus' album transcends the "with strings" genre, both in writing and performance. The emotion in Barbieri's playing during that era was stunning, and real. I was able to see him live twice during that time, once at the beloved Main Point, once at the Tower Theatre. Edited June 17, 2010 by felser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Very glad to see Gato Barbieri getting praise here Spent a number of memorable evenings listening to Gato and Don Cherry when they played at the Chat qui Peche club in Paris' Latin Quarter. Gato and I became friends after I showed him a photo of John Coltrane with Gato's wife Michele I had taken backstage in the Salle Pleyel in 1965 when Coltrane played there. I did not know who the woman was at the time I took the photo. I saw the Barbieris when visiting Rome in the spring of 1968. I accompanied them on the set of Bernardo Bertolucci's film 'Partner' at Cinecitta. Bertolucci was keen on using Gato's music on his films. That turned out to be 'Last Tango in Paris'. Bertolucci turned up with Marlon Brando at one of Gato's concert at the Salle Wagram. He liked the setting so much he used the Salle Wagram for several scenes of the movie. Passion is a narrow word for the intensity of Gato's music at the time. He was very much interested in listening to Trane, Pharoah and Albert Ayler among others at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with the Golden Arm Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 very nice story! Recently picked up this Umiliani "Una Bella Grinta" and recommend it highly. A soundtrack Gato made prior to Tango. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Gato is still playing well. I saw him not long ago, and was very pleased. He is no longer as energetic, wild and aggressive as he was back in the day, but now concentrates on making every note really count, and usually does. Every time he puts the horn to his mouth, you KNOW you are in the presence of a real master. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete C Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 (edited) Something worth seeking, if one seeks such things, is an unissued recording from the 2002 Frankfurt Festival of "Complete Reunion" with Gato, Rava, Danilo Rea, Roberto Gatto and Rosario Bonaccorso. Edited June 18, 2010 by Pete C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Yeah, Orgasm is a motherfucker Hell yeah it is. Parabola is an amazing track. Second your opinion on In Search of a Mystery too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
six string Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 I avoided his music for the longest because of the commercial stuff some have mentioned here but a few years ago I got hip to Fenix which led me to open my eyes and ears a little. Then I found a nice vinyl copy of Under Fire which I really like too. A littel while later I found a water stained but nice sounding copy of Confluence on Arista/Freedom which is a duo album he did with Dollar Brand and I really dig it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted January 15, 2023 Report Share Posted January 15, 2023 On 8/16/2005 at 10:26 AM, jazzbo said: The ESP IS great. Discovered this recently and am really enjoying it. Â Not for people who love subtlety in their free jazz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 On 6/17/2010 at 2:51 AM, JSngry said: I'm being called upon to cover Barbieri's version of "Europa" this weekend, one of those things that I've long heard but never really gotten inside of, and...it's really a masterful performance. Melodic, flowing, subtly shaped contours in the line, superb control of the instrument, the whole thing has a flow to it that is elegantly liquid. Rereading this thread, somebody said that improvising is overrated. Well, I don't know about that, but I do think that true lyricism, the ability to sing a melody through an instrument & endow it with a body and a shape all its own, is highly underrated. I'll take Barbieri playing something like this like this, even in a "commercial" setting, over a collection of well-studied "licks" players far more often than not... Happy to agree with you here. Great jazz players get inside melodies and then the solo/improv/rest of it comes from there. But what do I know, I can barely play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gheorghe Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 I like his playing on Don Cherry´s "Complete Comunion". Before I heard that, I saw that there were many records under his name in the jazz sections of the record stores back then, but I didn´t know about his name. I mean for then avantgarde tenor I was looking for late Trane, Pharoah , Shepp and so on, but the name of Barbieri was not much mentioned among those circles. Then I heard the "Complete Communion" and it became one of my favourite jazz albums when I still was a beginner, and said "wow, so much good tenor" , but somehow I had the suspicion that those many records he made some years later was another music, maybe not really my music..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhatta Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 Gato had a distinctive voice. His solo on Oliver Nelson's "Swiss Suite" is quite memorable.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unitstructures Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) Gato's free stuff is great... Another good one with Don Cherry is Togetherness (for collecting purposes I've included the cover of the easier to source USA reissue on Inner City) Â Edited January 16, 2023 by unitstructures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 A few years back, Quartet Records released the film score to Last Tango in Paris, which is a completely different experience from the LP with the same name. Â It is combined on CD with the LP version. Â https://quartetrecords.com/product/last-tango-in-paris/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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