LPs that have never made it into CD

[Hardbopjazz]

2 hours ago, JSngry said:

Hell, that one barely made it to LP...

Really? Maybe that's why the best price I can find is 55 dollars for the vinyl. 

[djcavanagh]

On 06/04/2020 at 1:43 PM, Hot Ptah said:

Some albums still not on CD:

Jack DeJohnette--Untitled (ECM)

James Newton--Paseo Del Mar (India Navigation). It is my favorite James Newton album

Sun Ra--Unity (Horo). His other two Horo albums have had CD and digital download releases, but this excellent live album has not. 

The Sun Ra lp has just been released on a (legit) download. 

https://sunramusic.bandcamp.com/album/unity-live-at-storyville-nyc-oct-1977

[EKE BBB]

[Mark13]

There is so much obscure stuff that still has not made it to cd but what about the following mainstream-ish Verve/Mercury-titles:

 

Jimmy Smith - Monster

Cannonball Adderley - In the Land of HiFi

Cal Tjader - Warm Wave

Jerome Richardson - Groove Merchant 

 

All these soId pretty well on Vinyl and I do not understand what has kept the Japanese from reissuing them. Or the Andorrans.

[Eric]

34 minutes ago, Mark13 said:

There is so much obscure stuff that still has not made it to cd but what about the following mainstream-ish Verve/Mercury-titles:

 

Jimmy Smith - Monster

Cannonball Adderley - In the Land of HiFi

Cal Tjader - Warm Wave

Jerome Richardson - Groove Merchant 

 

All these soId pretty well on Vinyl and I do not understand what has kept the Japanese from reissuing them. Or the Andorrans.

Very surprised by the Cannonball and Smith lps ...!

[jazzbo]

It appears that at least some of the Adderley did come out on cd in the early days; there's a disc on ebay at the moment:

Label :    EDITIONS ATLAS                FRANCE

Serial Number:  CD2049

 

Edited October 15, 2020 by jazzbo

[Eric]

11 minutes ago, jazzbo said:

It appears that at least some of the Adderley did come out on cd in the early days; there's a disc on ebay at the moment:

Label :    EDITIONS ATLAS                FRANCE

Serial Number:  CD2049

 

Maybe only part of it?  The other tunes look like they are from a Paul Chambers VeeJay date with Cannonball date if memory serves ...

Edited October 15, 2020 by Eric

[Kevin Bresnahan]

1 hour ago, Mark13 said:

Cal Tjader - Warm Wave

"Warm Wave" is only 28 minutes long. I wonder if that had anything to do with it?

[jazzbo]

You may be right about the VeeJay LP. I did say "at least some" of the Adderley.

[Kevin Bresnahan]

1 hour ago, Mark13 said:

Cannonball Adderley - In the Land of HiFi

This is a new one on me... I thought I had all of Cannonball's Emarcy LPs when I bought those two compilations. Why wasn't this session on "Sophisticated Swing: The Emarcy Small-Group Sessions"?

[jazzbo]

Because it's not a small group session.

• Cannonball Adderley - alto saxophone
• Jerome Richardson - tenor saxophone, flute
• Danny Bank - baritone saxophone
• Nat Adderley – cornet
• Ernie Royal - trumpet
• Bobby Byrne, Jimmy Cleveland - trombone
• Junior Mance - piano
• Keter Betts - bass
• Charles "Specs" Wright - drums

[JSngry]

would make a great combo with the Sarah Vaughan "In The Land Of hi-fi" which has some prime Cannonball on it.

for that matter...how many of those "in the land of..." sets were there? besides these twq, I find Dinah Washington and Georgie auld, anybody else?

[Dan Gould]

1 hour ago, jazzbo said:

Because it's not a small group session.

• Cannonball Adderley - alto saxophone
• Jerome Richardson - tenor saxophone, flute
• Danny Bank - baritone saxophone
• Nat Adderley – cornet
• Ernie Royal - trumpet
• Bobby Byrne, Jimmy Cleveland - trombone
• Junior Mance - piano
• Keter Betts - bass
• Charles "Specs" Wright - drums

Funny Discogs has it just with Tommy Turrentine added, which made me very curious about this one.  Knowing its a much bigger group ... I'm curious still, but maybe a little less.

Thanks to the poster who mentioned it first though - I haven't spun the Emarcy CDs in ages.

[Daniel A]

Browsing through this thread, it is interesting to note that a number of the albums listed have actually been issued on CD since. These days, maybe we should have a new thread for CDs not available for streaming... 

Anyway, these are albums that come to mind as not having been out in a digital format:

Gary McFarland 'Profiles' (Impulse, 1966) 

 

Cal Tjader 'Hip Vibrations' (Verve, 1967) 

 

Cal Tjader 'Along Comes Cal' (Verve, 1967)

 

Shelly Manne 'Outside' (Contemporary,1970) 

 

Martial Solal 'Trio' (Columbia, 1965) 

 

Martial Solal 'Son 66' (Columbia,1966) 

 

Martial Solal 'En direct du Blue Note' (Columbia, 1966): also release as 'On Home Ground' on Milestone

 

... and then some ten Clare Fisher albums on Revelation (indeed most or even all of the Revelation catalog) 

[soulpope]

11 minutes ago, Daniel A said:

Martial Solal 'Trio' (Columbia, 1965) 

 

Martial Solal 'Son 66' (Columbia,1966) 

 

Martial Solal 'En direct du Blue Note' (Columbia, 1966): also release as 'On Home Ground' on Milestone

 

All three excellent indeed  ....

[mikeweil]

2 hours ago, bresna said:

"Warm Wave" is only 28 minutes long. I wonder if that had anything to do with it?

When Tjader biographer S. Duncan Reid talked to Tjader's children about Verve reissues, they said they had inquired but the label wasn't interested. Only half of Tjader's Verve LPs were reissued on CD by the label, another two (In A Latin Bag & Saturday Night /Sunday Night At The Blackhawk) by Cherry Red in the UK. One only in Japan (The Prophet). Three (Warm Wave, Along Comes Cal, Hip Vibrations) never were on CD in complete form, only single tracks on compilations.

Tjader was positive about Warm Wave. He would have loved to record an all ballad LP with the rhythm section, but that never materialized. If the session tapes are still there they could release the album with and without the overdubs on one CD, that would be close to fulfilling Cal's dream.

42 minutes ago, Daniel A said:

Gary McFarland 'Profiles' (Impulse, 1966) 

 

That's a killer album! But I'm afraid the tapes are lost. There even is a film of this concert. Some snippets were on the McFarland documentary released a few years ago. 

[Daniel A]

34 minutes ago, soulpope said:

All three excellent indeed  ....

Agree! 

5 minutes ago, mikeweil said:

When Tjader biographer S. Duncan Reid talked to Tjader's children about Verve reissues, they said they had inquired but the label wasn't interested. Only half of Tjader's Verve LPs were reissued on CD by the label, another two (In A Latin Bag & Saturday Night /Sunday Night At The Blackhawk) by Cherry Red in the UK. One only in Japan (The Prophet). Three (Warm Wave, Along Comes Cal, Hip Vibrations) never were on CD in complete form, only single tracks on compilations.

Tjader was positive about Warm Wave. He would have loved to record an all ballad LP with the rhythm section, but that never materialized. If the session tapes are still there they could release the album with and without the overdubs on one CD, that would be close to fulfilling Cal's dream.

That's a killer album! But I'm afraid the tapes are lost. There even is a film of this concert. Some snippets were on the McFarland documentary released a few years ago. 

33 minutes ago, soulpope said:

 

I would really have loved to see the whole McFarland concert!

I've only recently begun to discover Tjader. Can't believe how I could have dismissed him for so many years! I guess I thought he was kinda into the easy listening "fake" latin genre. I was mistaken...

The albums above are also interesting in that they are among very few sideman appearances by Chick Corea and Herbie Hancock that have not been reissued on CD. 

[JSngry]

51 minutes ago, Daniel A said:

Shelly Manne 'Outside' (Contemporary,1970) 

 

Oh yes! I just got that one a few months ago and IMMEDIATELY began waxing rhapsodic about it. Lesser albums by more of less the same band have made it to CD, which is a real distortion of what Manne could do in this type bag.

[HutchFan]

1 hour ago, Daniel A said:

... and then some ten Clare Fisher albums on Revelation (indeed most or even all of the Revelation catalog) 

Somebody really needs to reissue those solo piano recordings -- especially The State of His Art and Jazz Song.  They're extraordinary records.

 

Edited October 15, 2020 by HutchFan

[Chuck Nessa]

I pray the tapes exist.

[Daniel A]

13 hours ago, HutchFan said:

Somebody really needs to reissue those solo piano recordings -- especially The State of His Art and Jazz Song.  They're extraordinary records.

 

I once asked Jonathan Horwich, when he was somewhat active on this forum, whether he still had the rights to the Revelation material, but I didn't get a response (though he was helpful in another matter). 

[Kevin Bresnahan]

12 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said:

I pray the tapes exist.

Aren't they still in business? It couldn't hurt to ask: http://www.chiaroscurojazz.org/

[felser]

[sidewinder]

2 hours ago, felser said:

 

Strange that Fantasy never reissued that one on CD. It’s well worthy of issue.

Edited October 16, 2020 by sidewinder

[mjazzg]

How does it compare to others of his? I'm flirting with a copy but it ain't cheap