clifford_thornton Posted July 16, 2014 Report Posted July 16, 2014 I have enjoyed recent Parker gigs, though the way he plays now is not as raw as 40, 30 or even 15 years ago. I remember seeing him in the late '90s/early '00s with Schlippenbach and each occasion was momentous and extreme. The Parker/Guy/Lytton trio was also wonderful to see live during that period. It must've been even moreso in the salad days of efi. I saw him do a short solo performance in Minneapolis in 2004 or 2005 and it was excellent; he then proceeded to play with local musicians who were excited to be onstage with him, and he was gracious in his playing with a young trio of Midwestern improvisers. Good times. He seems to be more measured in his playing now, but there are flashes of what has made him singular. Quote
Homefromtheforest Posted July 16, 2014 Report Posted July 16, 2014 I've seen him many times since the first time I saw him in 1993 or 1994 with the Guy/Lytton trio and I would concur that his playing seems more measured lately. Quote
colinmce Posted July 16, 2014 Report Posted July 16, 2014 The Snake Decides is crushing, and certainly worth looking for. However, you would get the same idea with other solo CDs like Monoceros, Saxophone Solos, or Six of One. Wow, The Snake Decides goes for way more bread on CD than it does on LP! Great record. Monoceros is off the charts, though, and Six Of One is pretty sick as well. I was spinning it the other day and it was killing me. Still need a nice copy of Zanzou. I suppose you have the Incus LP box set... Quote
clifford_thornton Posted July 16, 2014 Report Posted July 16, 2014 No, just the individual LPs. I wish I had the Cadillac/Incus box (which comes with a cassette of alternate takes, a booklet with text by Paul Haines, and I believe is signed/numbered), but can live with the standard editions. Quote
Steve Reynolds Posted July 16, 2014 Report Posted July 16, 2014 Certainly Parker's playing was very raw 30 or 40 years ago. As I've mentioned earlier there are some days I prefer that searching, developmental sound. There is a solo/improvisation on Globe Unity Special on the opening Misha Mengelberg tracks that features the best of 70's era Evan and there are many more of those instances where the technique is sufficient for the raw power to emerge. But the advancement in his art by the early 90's is huge - and the loss of harshness is replaced by a combination of a more advanced technique with plenty of power and raw sound remaining. I first saw Parker live in probably 1998 with Mark Dresser and Bobby Previte. I saw him again in May 2001 with Tim Berne, Drew Gress (wrong band for him - he disappeared as he was swallowed up) and the great Mark Sanders on drums. The second set was incredibly intense and was not matched in intensity until 2009 when during a 10 minute encore with Dresser & Hemingway, Parker (and the trio) played with an intensity that Parker-Guy-Lytton must have played with for 25 or 30 minutes at a clip back in the early or mid 90's. At the Vortex from 1996 documents this ably on record. So the intensity has waned and the playing may be more measured and the excitement may have lessened to some extent, but what I heard in 2009 and during some of last September's sets, the brilliance remains. Quote
mjazzg Posted July 17, 2014 Report Posted July 17, 2014 I think that maybe the intensity has changed rather than waned. I'm with you on the development of the playing but hear an intensity now more centred in economy of expresion with a measured depth replacing the fiery outburst of old (which he still sometimes pulls out) something most noticeable in his tenor playing which now has a majesty unequalled elsewhere I think. The last two visits of Schlippenbach Trio have been some of the most intense playing I've ever heard. "The brilliance remains" - couldn't have put it better myself, Steve Quote
David Ayers Posted July 17, 2014 Report Posted July 17, 2014 Re. fire, I was listening yesterday to the mighty Nipples. You'd hardly know PB and EP apart at first blush. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted July 17, 2014 Report Posted July 17, 2014 Well said above. Nipples is a great record and the passages of Bailey/Bennink/Niebergall on this and More Nipples make me wish Derek had made a trio album with those two. But I digress. Indeed, Parker's true individuality/originality emerged after 1969 but he's wonderful on every record he made in those early years. From a bit later, I'd like to get Cybernetic Serendipity Music. Homefromtheforest probably has it! Quote
Homefromtheforest Posted July 17, 2014 Report Posted July 17, 2014 Well said above. Nipples is a great record and the passages of Bailey/Bennink/Niebergall on this and More Nipples make me wish Derek had made a trio album with those two. But I digress. Indeed, Parker's true individuality/originality emerged after 1969 but he's wonderful on every record he made in those early years. From a bit later, I'd like to get Cybernetic Serendipity Music. Homefromtheforest probably has it! Nope! Was outbid the few times I've seen it on eBay:( Quote
mjazzg Posted July 17, 2014 Report Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) Well said above. Nipples is a great record and the passages of Bailey/Bennink/Niebergall on this and More Nipples make me wish Derek had made a trio album with those two. But I digress. Indeed, Parker's true individuality/originality emerged after 1969 but he's wonderful on every record he made in those early years. From a bit later, I'd like to get Cybernetic Serendipity Music. Homefromtheforest probably has it!Nope! Was outbid the few times I've seen it on eBay:(If neither of you have it it must be RARE indeed Edited July 17, 2014 by mjazzg Quote
Homefromtheforest Posted July 17, 2014 Report Posted July 17, 2014 Well said above. Nipples is a great record and the passages of Bailey/Bennink/Niebergall on this and More Nipples make me wish Derek had made a trio album with those two. But I digress. Indeed, Parker's true individuality/originality emerged after 1969 but he's wonderful on every record he made in those early years. From a bit later, I'd like to get Cybernetic Serendipity Music. Homefromtheforest probably has it! Nope! Was outbid the few times I've seen it on eBay:( If neither of you have it it must be RARE indeed Haha...I never really bid hard for it; strikes me as more of a curio then anything. Where as I spent much effort and dollars tracking down a true 1st pressing of "topography of the lungs" with both inserts...that record was more important to me! Quote
Swinger Posted July 19, 2014 Report Posted July 19, 2014 I'm hoping to score Snake Decides one day.. Quote
Paradiddle Posted July 20, 2014 Report Posted July 20, 2014 I'm hoping to score Snake Decides one day.. That's a fantastic Michael Gerzon recording. Definitely worth the effort! Quote
Leeway Posted July 22, 2014 Report Posted July 22, 2014 Here's some information that has come my way on the Evan Parker tour in September 2014. Some changes. SInce there is some overlap with Peter Evans residency at JACK, Brooklyn, I'm including that information as well: The gig with Ned Rothenberg at the Zurcher Gallery has been cancelled and one with Peter Evans has been added Peter Evans' Residency at JACK, Brooklyn September 26-28th. September 26th Peter Evans/Evan Parker duo Peter Evans Quintet September 27th Peter Evans/Joe McPhee trumpet duo Peter Evans Quintet September 28th Peter Evans Quintet (2 sets) Quote
Steve Reynolds Posted July 22, 2014 Report Posted July 22, 2014 Here's some information that has come my way on the Evan Parker tour in September 2014. Some changes. SInce there is some overlap with Peter Evans residency at JACK, Brooklyn, I'm including that information as well: The gig with Ned Rothenberg at the Zurcher Gallery has been cancelled and one with Peter Evans has been added Peter Evans' Residency at JACK, Brooklyn September 26-28th. September 26th Peter Evans/Evan Parker duo Peter Evans Quintet September 27th Peter Evans/Joe McPhee trumpet duo Peter Evans Quintet September 28th Peter Evans Quintet (2 sets) I wonder who is in his quintet(s) Quote
Leeway Posted July 22, 2014 Report Posted July 22, 2014 I think the line-up shifts, but this is what it was in May 2014 at an Issue Project Room performance: Peter Evans - trumpet, piccolo trumpet, compositionsRon Stabinsky - pianoTom Blancarte - bassJim Black - drumsSam Pluta - live electronics Quote
clifford_thornton Posted July 22, 2014 Report Posted July 22, 2014 The forthcoming CD World of Objects with Nate Wooley and Jeremiah Cymerman is completely insane. Quote
colinmce Posted July 22, 2014 Report Posted July 22, 2014 Cool. I've been meaning to preorder that one. Quote
mjazzg Posted July 22, 2014 Report Posted July 22, 2014 Just put in my pre-order. That's got to be a winning combination Quote
David Ayers Posted July 30, 2014 Report Posted July 30, 2014 To mention again Whitstable Solo, which I am revisiting today, this is so great. Just amazing. Quote
mjazzg Posted August 9, 2014 Report Posted August 9, 2014 More 70th birthday celebrations. I like the way it's programmed across the two venuesMon 20/10 Cafe Oto - EP and The NecksTues 21/10 Vortex - EP, Joe McPhee, John Edwards, Chris CorsanoWeds 22/10 Cafe Oto - EP and AMMThurs 23/10 Vortex - EP, Black Top (Pat Thomas, Orphy Robinson), JOhn Edwards, Steve NobleFri 24/10 Cafe Oto - EP, John Russell, John Edwardssat 25/10 Vortex - EP + Trance Map Quartet (Barry Guy, Hannah Marshall, Matt Wright)Sun 26/10 cafe Oto - EP Electro Acoustic EnsembleThat's a hell of a celebration.I'm definitely be going to The Necks evening and will hope to make a couple others, life permitting Quote
Leeway Posted August 9, 2014 Report Posted August 9, 2014 Good news on the NYC front too; EP will be playing a couple of sets with Fred Van Hove. Quote
Steve Reynolds Posted August 9, 2014 Report Posted August 9, 2014 I don't know The Necks but I plan to - but those first 4 nights look amazing. Very happy we have Evan here a month earlier Quote
king ubu Posted August 9, 2014 Report Posted August 9, 2014 Wow, Parker and The Necks - a rather unlikely combination ... wonder what that will come out like! Quote
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