Eric Posted July 13, 2005 Report Posted July 13, 2005 ... featuring Free Lancing, Black Rock and Odyssey ... Probably not enough for a 3 CD set ... what else could they tag on? How is his Blue Note lp? Quote
7/4 Posted July 13, 2005 Report Posted July 13, 2005 Wow. I'd love to see that, but I'd be real surprised. Quote
Kalo Posted July 13, 2005 Report Posted July 13, 2005 (edited) Ditto. Maybe there's unreleased stuff. Edited July 13, 2005 by Kalo Quote
Jim Dye Posted July 13, 2005 Report Posted July 13, 2005 Add in "Tales of Captain Black" and "Are You Glad To Be In America" from the Artists House label as well! Quote
Dan Gould Posted July 13, 2005 Report Posted July 13, 2005 ... featuring Free Lancing, Black Rock and Odyssey ... Probably not enough for a 3 CD set ... what else could they tag on? How is his Blue Note lp? ← There was a Blue Note LP? Quote
Joe Posted July 13, 2005 Report Posted July 13, 2005 America: Do You Remember the Love?, B2-46755, 1986. A Bill Laswell production. Pretty good as I remember, more vocals-focused, just not as adventurous as the Columbia and AH material. Quote
Kalo Posted July 13, 2005 Report Posted July 13, 2005 (edited) America: Do You Remember the Love?, B2-46755, 1986. A Bill Laswell production. Pretty good as I remember, more vocals-focused, just not as adventurous as the Columbia and AH material. ← As I recall, it received poor reviews at the time, so I avoided it. I love the Columbias and the Artists House discs. I haven't kept up with more recent stuff. Edited July 13, 2005 by Kalo Quote
kh1958 Posted July 13, 2005 Report Posted July 13, 2005 About a third of the Blue Note record is good, as I recall. America: Do You Remember the Love?, B2-46755, 1986. A Bill Laswell production. Pretty good as I remember, more vocals-focused, just not as adventurous as the Columbia and AH material. ← As I recall, it received poor reviews at the time, so I avoided it. I love the Columbias and the Artists House discs. I haven't kept up with more recent stuff. ← Quote
JSngry Posted July 13, 2005 Report Posted July 13, 2005 About a third of the Blue Note record is good, as I recall. America: Do You Remember the Love?, B2-46755, 1986. A Bill Laswell production. Pretty good as I remember, more vocals-focused, just not as adventurous as the Columbia and AH material. ← As I recall, it received poor reviews at the time, so I avoided it. I love the Columbias and the Artists House discs. I haven't kept up with more recent stuff. ← ← I own two copies (on BN cassette!), and find it to be a very good, if somewhat atypical. Laswell's production results in some very tightly focused arrangements, and the whole thing has his "sound" to it. There's also more vocals than had been the norm for Ulmer up to that point, ahich I think is why it left some critics cold back then. The album is a lot tighter than most of Ulmer's work before or since, and what it loses in openness, it gains in specificity. Not at all bad, just different, and perhaps it hit the market at a time before audiences were ready for something like that from Ulmer. As for the Columbia albums, hell yeah! I really dig Odyssey in particular. A harmolodic hoedown! Quote
kh1958 Posted July 13, 2005 Report Posted July 13, 2005 Another favorite Ulmer recording is the live date with George Adams in the Jazzbruhne series. Quote
7/4 Posted July 13, 2005 Report Posted July 13, 2005 Add in "Tales of Captain Black" and "Are You Glad To Be In America" from the Artists House label as well! ← Two fine albums. Isn't Ornette on Tales? I can't get to the album to check. Quote
Kalo Posted July 13, 2005 Report Posted July 13, 2005 (edited) Add in "Tales of Captain Black" and "Are You Glad To Be In America" from the Artists House label as well! ← Two fine albums. Isn't Ornette on Tales? I can't get to the album to check. ← Ornette is ALL OVER Tales of Captain Black. Edited July 13, 2005 by Kalo Quote
Kalo Posted July 13, 2005 Report Posted July 13, 2005 (edited) It just struck me that Ulmer is on Arthur Blythe's Columbia album Illusions from that same era, which, along with the Blue Note plus outtakes and alternates could bulk it up to Mosaic Select length. Except that the Blythe was out recently on Koch Jazz. And the OOP Columbia Blythes would make a nice Mosaic on their own. Edited July 13, 2005 by Kalo Quote
Soul Stream Posted July 13, 2005 Report Posted July 13, 2005 Ulmer is one jazz cat I'm totally unconvinced of. Sounds like a blues guitar player with bad technique to my ears. Dig him on Patton's late 60's stuff (guess it was his first recordings). But for even that, I'd love to hear almost anyone else on the session. Quote
David Ayers Posted July 14, 2005 Report Posted July 14, 2005 (edited) Are You Glad to be in America? was on Rough Trade and was my favorite of those I ever heard. The first Columbia was OK as a toned down (and gated!) version of the same sort of thing; Odyssey lost me - just too tame. I used to have the live CD on In + Out but sold it. Actually it was good - well recorded, very vivid 24 bit sound - but I'd moved on and didn't really listen to it any more. Tales of Captain Black is a bit studio bound but is another good vivid recording. I have the LP - it was also a CD from DIW. Worth hunting down, not least for presence of OC as well as Jamaaladeen Tacuma. It is certainly the most musically ambitious and is probably better than AYGTBIA, though not so typical due to the presence of strong personalities. Edited July 14, 2005 by David Ayers Quote
Kalo Posted July 17, 2005 Report Posted July 17, 2005 Are You Glad To Be in America? was initially released on Rough Trade, with a rather murky-sounding mix. A re-mixed version was released on Artists House shortly thereafter. Quote
David Ayers Posted July 18, 2005 Report Posted July 18, 2005 Are You Glad To Be in America? was initially released on Rough Trade, with a rather murky-sounding mix. A re-mixed version was released on Artists House shortly thereafter. ← Thanks for the info. I'm surprised - I had no idea. The Rough Trade version is definitely murky! Quote
Kalo Posted July 18, 2005 Report Posted July 18, 2005 Glad to be of service. I sold the Rough Trade when I scored the Artists House which was released on LP in '82. I don't know if it ever made it to CD. Quote
jlhoots Posted July 19, 2005 Report Posted July 19, 2005 Glad to be of service. I sold the Rough Trade when I scored the Artists House which was released on LP in '82. I don't know if it ever made it to CD. ← It's been on CD on DIW. Dusty Groove had it recently. Don't know if they still do. Quote
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