sheldonm Posted July 6, 2005 Report Posted July 6, 2005 Thanks...I was just curious. I'm not sure he said Gillespie the same way twice on your Uptown recording, kind of amusing!!! Love the cd though, release of the year IMHO (at least)!!! Mark
mrjazzman Posted July 6, 2005 Author Report Posted July 6, 2005 chuck and you say Im in the attacking mood, check your own comments, im not going to continue to remain calm with comments like "ignorant", "looking for a fight", "too confrontational" "jerk award", if its a fight you want i'll give you the fight of your life. sid's comments add absolutly NOTHING to the music. as a matter of fact they distract from the music. and at least you agree with me re: mulligan, brookmeyer and pepper, this is why i don't visit the site much let alone post, the nerve of you, i havent attacked anyone, im responding to attacks on me although mark said he was having fun. not at some elses expense i hope.............the ignorant jerk
mrjazzman Posted July 6, 2005 Author Report Posted July 6, 2005 Compared to my tastes, you seem to be all over the place. No pattern beyond your "attack". FWIW, I don't think it is very well informed nomatter my agreements. It seems you are looking for a fight. ← are you on some kind of ego trip because your name appears on the back of a cd, who gives a crap about your tastes, I have 1500 jazz cd's and you didn't buy any of them for me so i could care less about your taste, its all about my taste, thas what counts when im on half.com, amazon.com or go into amoeba or rhasputin........the ignorant jerk
mrjazzman Posted July 6, 2005 Author Report Posted July 6, 2005 what a waste of (cyber)space. ← Jazzshrink, you read it and responded to it so it must not be too much of a waste
mrjazzman Posted July 6, 2005 Author Report Posted July 6, 2005 Chuck, Not to sidetrack an otherwise worthless thread (that I participated in) but what was Symphony Sid like? Did you know him? He's seem a little cheesy but I don't know a lot about him so won't pass judgement! If you would prefer me to start a new thread, I can do that as well. Thanks, m- ← 'a worthless thread that I participated in' what's that say about you mark? are you a worthless person with too much time on your hands?
mrjazzman Posted July 6, 2005 Author Report Posted July 6, 2005 Sorry you find so little pleasure. ← you're the one who's not a worthy adversary, what a pittiful little response
mrjazzman Posted July 6, 2005 Author Report Posted July 6, 2005 jazzbo, I wish you could give a huge dose of your tolerance to some of your buddies on this forum
mrjazzman Posted July 6, 2005 Author Report Posted July 6, 2005 they don't deserve the attention they've got in the past, Maybe they don't deserve your attention but most of the board member (I would bet) will disagree with you. How about a list of your favorites??? Mark ← live or dead? ← i'm glad you snuck that 'i would bet' in there
Dave James Posted July 6, 2005 Report Posted July 6, 2005 MJM, Perhaps I erred in intimating that Parker was a post-bop saxophonist. Not really. However, I have taken into account the alto players you mention (all first cabin musicians in their own right) and others as well. I still find Pepper to be my personal favorite. This is one of the things that makes jazz so attractive. We can agree to disagree and it's cool. Up over and out.
clifford_thornton Posted July 6, 2005 Report Posted July 6, 2005 Wow, I can't believe I read through all the posts!
jlhoots Posted July 6, 2005 Report Posted July 6, 2005 Wow, I can't believe I read through all the posts! ← Me too. Does the word "troll" apply? Just asking.
Don Brown Posted July 6, 2005 Report Posted July 6, 2005 mrjazzman, while you're certainly entitled to your opinions you shouldn't be surprised when others happen not to agree with you. We all have our likes and dislikes. Even musicians, or perhaps especially musicians, have their prejudices. For example, you list both Pepper Adams and Serge Chaloff as two of your favorite baritone players. They're both right up there on my list as well, yet it seems Pepper Adams hated Serge Chaloff's playing. Try to find the Cadence Magazine interview in which Adams savages Chaloff. I couldn't believe my eyes when I first read it. I'd always felt Adams had been influenced by Chaloff. But, as Fats Waller said, "One never knows, do one?"
clifford_thornton Posted July 6, 2005 Report Posted July 6, 2005 I've never seen 'mrjazzman' before... All three he mentioned are fine by me - don't get any vitriol, nor unflinching praise from this end. Probably goes for most everyone else here. The Mulligan-Desmond quartet on Verve is a good pianoless quartet record, though.
kenny weir Posted July 6, 2005 Report Posted July 6, 2005 mrjazzman is not a good advert for hard bop. Each to his own. But it's unusual - except in the case of WM perhaps - for a poster to start a thread for no other purpose than to slag three major and revered artists. What's the point? You gotta know there's gonna be some snaky responses. Pitiful.
Nate Dorward Posted July 7, 2005 Report Posted July 7, 2005 mrjazzman, while you're certainly entitled to your opinions you shouldn't be surprised when others happen not to agree with you. We all have our likes and dislikes. Even musicians, or perhaps especially musicians, have their prejudices. For example, you list both Pepper Adams and Serge Chaloff as two of your favorite baritone players. They're both right up there on my list as well, yet it seems Pepper Adams hated Serge Chaloff's playing. Try to find the Cadence Magazine interview in which Adams savages Chaloff. I couldn't believe my eyes when I first read it. I'd always felt Adams had been influenced by Chaloff. But, as Fats Waller said, "One never knows, do one?" ← Is that the Ben Sidran piece in Talking Jazz? Yeah, he has some nasty things to say about Chaloff there.
Don Brown Posted July 7, 2005 Report Posted July 7, 2005 No, not the the Ben Sidran piece. I'd forgotten about that one. What I was referring to was a long interview with Adams in Cadence Magazine. He got extremely nasty talking about Chaloff.
Michael Fitzgerald Posted July 7, 2005 Report Posted July 7, 2005 The interview was done by Gary Carner and was published in Cadence in January, February, March, and April 1986. Unfortunately, I can't find the January right now, but there is nothing on Chaloff in the others. Mike
mrjazzman Posted July 8, 2005 Author Report Posted July 8, 2005 mrjazzman is not a good advert for hard bop. Each to his own. But it's unusual - except in the case of WM perhaps - for a poster to start a thread for no other purpose than to slag three major and revered artists. What's the point? You gotta know there's gonna be some snaky responses. Pitiful. ← bob brookmeyer "major and revered" you've got to be kidding.......
kenny weir Posted July 8, 2005 Report Posted July 8, 2005 bob brookmeyer "major and revered" you've got to be kidding....... ← Nope. Not at all. He's both in my world.
mrjazzman Posted July 8, 2005 Author Report Posted July 8, 2005 bob brookmeyer "major and revered" you've got to be kidding....... ← Nope. Not at all. He's both in my world. ← ok kenny, i can dig that........
kenny weir Posted July 8, 2005 Report Posted July 8, 2005 bob brookmeyer "major and revered" you've got to be kidding....... ← Nope. Not at all. He's both in my world. ← ok kenny, i can dig that........ ← And I suspect I'm not alone! Have you heard any of the Mulligan Concert Jazz Band albums?
clifford_thornton Posted July 8, 2005 Report Posted July 8, 2005 Hey, not too many valve trombonists out there... Brookmeyer and my 'namesake' are the ones that come most quickly to mind. So at least for that you gotta give him credit. And yeah, those Verve samba/third-stream sides he did were weak, but I'm all for the Jimmy Giuffre 3.
mrjazzman Posted July 8, 2005 Author Report Posted July 8, 2005 bob brookmeyer "major and revered" you've got to be kidding....... ← Nope. Not at all. He's both in my world. ← ok kenny, i can dig that........ ← And I suspect I'm not alone! Have you heard any of the Mulligan Concert Jazz Band albums? ← no i haven't, think it would be a waste of my time, ive heard his playing and imo its the jazz equivilant(spelling) to elavator music. to lightweight, i like the heavy, intense, blusey hard bop playing of pepper adams, leo parker, ronnie cuber, charles davis
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