Mariah Carey

[JSngry]

  John L said:

From that point of view, maybe Whitney came a little after her optimal time.  If she had come up in the 50s or 60s, she probably would have devoted all of that talent to a different tune.  Given how well Babyface captured her on Exhale, I hope that he gets a chance to producer her again.

I wouldn't say the same thing about Mariah.  With her, I get the feeling that what you hear is what there is.  She is in her proper time.

Agreed. Mariah has never struck me has having the potetnial to be the "real deal" like Whitney did (Does? After all these years and problem? Shall we see?). I mean, hey, Teena Marie, as over the top as she was (and if you've heard her latest album, still is), was deeper in the cut.

Mariah's shown the stuff of a good pop singles artist, but never more. At least not to me.

[Dave James]

"Pariah" Carey is the poster child for much of what's wrong with pop music today. A quintessential instance of style over substance.

Up over and out.

Edited July 4, 2005 by Dave James

[chandra]

  JSngry said:

It's like I used to work with a local a female R&B singer who was, like 28 or 29, and was still making extra money by turning tricks (and she made lots of money, because she had a "high-dollar" body).

That is got to be strange, to work with someone with a double life like that!! Was she open about that or just a secret the bandmates happened to know?

Edited July 4, 2005 by chandra

[JSngry]

It was one of those things that was neither discussed nor hidden. It was just there, and nobody talked about it.

It's also not an unheard of scenario.

[Soulstation1]

i guess mariah's made a comeback, her cd has sold 4 mill

[BruceH]

  Kalo said:

In another thread I described this contemporary style of oversinging as "a miasma of melisma."

I hate this.

Yet I LOVE singers as diverse as Sam Cooke, Aretha Franklin, Al Green, Marvin Gaye, George Jones, and Harry Nilsson who employ melisma MUSICALLY.

Problem is, with most contemporary singers, whether they have a good voice or not, their singing is needlessly melismatic: just a bunch of show-off wankery.

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A-a-a-hey-a--a-men to that.

[patricia]

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chris olivarez,Jul 1 2005, 03:04 PM]Also I think Mariah,Whitney etc get far too tied up with their vocal technique. Would the correct word be "oversinging?".

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Do you mean singing a dozen notes where one would be fine for a single syllable? That's called melisma. And yes, they're over doing it.

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If I never hear Whitney Houston sing "I Will Always Love You" again, in my life, it will be too soon. For a solid two years at almost every wedding I attended there it was. Good Lord, I kept thinking. Make it stop !!! Melisma, shmelisma. It went on, and on, and on.....................and on. I don't care if she can do all that with her voice. Spread it out. Not all at once. You'll get another chance to impress us.

Edited October 18, 2005 by patricia