Jimmy Giuffre

[Soul Stream]

The local Tower was out of this, so I got a raincheck. I've been listening to the sound clips on the site, and it really sounds amazing. I have NO Giuffre, but the combo of Jimmy, Ray Brown and Jim Hall...well...it just seems like it should be good.

Does anyone have this yet?

[WD45]

This album is fab. It has elements of what he had sone in the past, and towards the end of the record, you could hear him starting to go in the direction he would explore further on the Atlantic and Verve LPs.

Ray Brown is a nice addition to the mix.

There are a few standards and some Giuffre compositions. A standout is "Come Rain or Come Shine." The most familiar version of this [for me] is his version arranged for 4 tenors. Again, you could hear where he was going in the future.

Now, if it only had liner notes...

[BruceH]

Just heard this today. Soul Stream, if you get it, you won't be sorry. It's got me thinking that a complete Giuffre Verve set would be nice.

[mgraham333]

After hearing Ray Brown's Jazz Celo and Jim Hall on Rollins' The Bridge I figured I had a pretty good chance of liking it. Not bad. I would have called it the Eazzzzzy way though. It's really relaxed. I'm not complaining. I need an occasional break from Blakey and Morgan blowing the roof off.

I've picked up quite a few of these new Verve releases and have been happy with all of them.

[BruceH]

I've picked up quite a few of these new Verve releases and have been happy with all of them.

Yeah, if anything they seem to be getting better.

[wesbed]

I bought 'The Easy Way' today.

I was wondering if my copy was the 'one' that didn't have the liner notes included. Alas, I learned from this thread that this title doesn't offer liner notes.

[Claude]

I think my CD (european pressing) contains a folded paper with liner notes. I will check it later.

Edited May 7, 2004 by Claude

[P.L.M]

I will answer for Claude.

My copy, bought here in Europe, has liner note but this liner not consist in the reprinting in big caractere of the back cover of the CD and nothing more.

So, no big deal if you don't get that as long as you have a good lens!

[wesbed]

I will answer for Claude.

My copy, bought here in Europe, has liner note but this liner not consist in the reprinting in big caractere of the back cover of the CD and nothing more.

So, no big deal if you don't get that as long as you have a good lens!

This is what I thought. That there wasn't much to print for the liner notes. This series of re-issues often has, for liner notes, only an exploded view of what the backcover says.

[king ubu]

I will answer for Claude.

My copy, bought here in Europe, has liner note but this liner not consist in the reprinting in big caractere of the back cover of the CD and nothing more.

So, no big deal if you don't get that as long as you have a good lens!

This is what I thought. That there wasn't much to print for the liner notes. This series of re-issues often has, for liner notes, only an exploded view of what the backcover says.

Are there releases in the series with something else? From the ones I have, I'd say they include a blow-up of the back if it's too small to read. Some have nothing, as there's nothing to read on the back, some have nothing as there's so little text that you can read everything.

The main problem I have with them is that you alway have to keep them packed in plastic "bags", so as not to lose the thing wrapped around the back of the disc - if you lose that, you don't have the information about personnel, dates etc anymore.

ubu

[couw]

The main problem I have with them is that you alway have to keep them packed in plastic "bags", so as not to lose the thing wrapped around the back of the disc - if you lose that, you don't have the information about personnel, dates etc anymore.

ubu

I have some simple, non-resealable sleeves that fit the covers tightly. Just shove the flattened "obi" in there and tadaa.

[king ubu]

The main problem I have with them is that you alway have to keep them packed in plastic "bags", so as not to lose the thing wrapped around the back of the disc - if you lose that, you don't have the information about personnel, dates etc anymore.

ubu

I have some simple, non-resealable sleeves that fit the covers tightly. Just shove the flattened "obi" in there and tadaa.

You know, I spend my money on CDs...

Have to look for such things. The latest batches I saw were digipacks, anyway.

ubu

[Claude]

With these "LP reproduction" CD, what comes closest to LP is the handling

[wesbed]

Are there releases in the series with something else?

The only thing I was referring to was that, in this series, you either get the insert or you don't.

[king ubu]

With these "LP reproduction" CD, what comes closest to LP is the handling

Yeah, but you can't crunch an LP cover in one hand trying to get the darn thing out of it, can you? Some of these Verve LPRs are so cheaply made - however, I really do like those I have, for they were all unknown to me, and it's great they do release the music in some way! (Even if I'd prefer them with a bit bonus material and unedited versions etc.)

Back on topic: Soul Stream: check out the Giuffre Three album on Atlantic (it is also included in the wonderful Mosaic box). It features Jim Hall and Ralph Peña. As you are the funky kind of guy, you should really like it. Its sort of scaled down and rural funkiness is something that never fails to astonish me again. On the outside, that music is so different in style, yet if you really listen, it's just as funky as, say, Horace Silver's groups were.

ubu

[king ubu]

Are there releases in the series with something else?

The only thing I was referring to was that, in this series, you either get the insert or you don't.

Ok, I was only wondering, as I have only about twelve of these releases, and all coming from the earliest batches.

ubu

[wesbed]

Ok, I was only wondering, as I have only about twelve of these releases, and all coming from the earliest batches.

If my memory is good, I have seven from this series. The only one that doesn't have the liner notes insert is the Giuffre.

I believe I can determine the correct instrumentation by listening. However, I'd appreciate some liner notes to confirm which instrument Giuffre is paying on a given selection.

[robviti]

The main problem I have with them is that you alway have to keep them packed in plastic "bags", so as not to lose the thing wrapped around the back of the disc - if you lose that, you don't have the information about personnel, dates etc anymore.

ubu

that obi strip will fit sideways in the slot of the front cover - where the removable liner notes should have gone!

[P.L.M]

I believe I can determine the correct instrumentation by listening. However, I'd appreciate some liner notes to confirm which instrument Giuffre is paying on a given selection.

I own the LP of EASY WAY beside the CD (french issue from beginning of the eighties.)

The back cover of the CD is not the exact reproduction of the back cover of this LP (who, itself, I guess is certainly not the reproduction of the original US.)

On the LP, the line where they list the personnel & instrument state precisely that JIMMY GIUFFRE, plays tenor saxophone AND CLARINET and also that the session took place in NEW YORK CITY, AUGUST 6-7, 1959.

In fact GIUFFRE plays clarinet on every track except CAREFUL, RAY'S TIME and TIME ENOUGH where he plays tenor.

Edited May 7, 2004 by P.L.M

[P.L.M]

I must add also, in defence of this serie that the sound quality is of the highest order (due to the remastering in 24/96.)

Just compare MOTION from LEE KONITZ with its early CD version, there's no match.

Too bad that they didn't fill it with the bonus tracks who was on this early version.

It obliges me to keep it. And it takes a precious place where place is nedeed.

[wesbed]

In fact GIUFFRE plays clarinet on every track except CAREFUL, RAY'S TIME and TIME ENOUGH where he plays tenor.

I'm at work as I type these words. I don't have 'The Easy Way' package with me. If I recall correctly, does the package say that Giuffre plays clarinet, alto, and tenor? I don't know. I could be wrong.

[P.L.M]

I'm at work as I type these words. I don't have 'The Easy Way' package with me. If I recall correctly, does the package say that Giuffre plays clarinet, alto, and tenor? I don't know. I could be wrong.

The CD we are discussing here just says: JIMMY GIUFFRE, SAXOPHONE.

To my knowledge, JIMMY GIUFFRE has never play alto saxophone (clarinet, tenor, baryton, flute and, later, soprano.)

Edited May 7, 2004 by P.L.M

[wesbed]

This is not meant as an agrument. Please, don't take it that way.

My copy of 'The Easy Way' lists Giuffre as playing clarinet, tenor sax, and baritone sax. No alto sax listed.

[mikeweil]

My copy has the repro of the original back cover, but it's not much:

As I began to plan this album, the music came so easily that my whole attitude toward it became relaxed and settled. In fact, one piece practically wrote itself, so I called it "The Easy Way". All this could probably be traced to several things, but the one point that seems strongest is the fact that I knew I was to have Jim Hall (guitar) and Ray Brown (bass) as my fellow-musicians for the album.

The idea was borne out even more at the recording sessions. I don't mean to imply that there weren't some really difficult spots - there were many - but the three of us fell into a oneness which allowed the music to roll out naturally. In the middle of one of the sessions it suddenly hit me the album should obviously be titled THE EASY WAY.

                                    - Jimmy Giuffre

Personnel: Jimmy Giuffre, saxophone; Jim Hall, guitar; Ray Bown, bass.

That's all there is - print it out and fold it up, put it inside. No clarinets nor baritones or altos mentioned ....