Kalo Posted June 6, 2005 Report Posted June 6, 2005 (edited) I never gave this one much time when I first got the RVG; listened, thought it was OK, and filed it away. This thread gave me a good excuse to pull it out again. I've been listening to it off and on for a week or so. I've been enjoying it, but what always happens is that I space out halfway through the title tune, and it turns into background music (I tend to have a hard time with static bass-lines). But "Sao Paulo" always snaps me right back to attention. It is a great tune, as others have written above, with a real quality of mystery about it. Dorham's playing is wonderful all over this, and I'm becoming more and more of a fan of Henderson, so it's cool to hear his debut. I always dig Tony Williams, but not so much a fan of Hancock. This is a good album, rising to first-class status for "Sao Paulo." I'll have to listen again tonight with J. Sangrey's detailed and insightful post in mind. Good choice for AOTW. Edited June 6, 2005 by Kalo Quote
BruceH Posted June 9, 2005 Report Posted June 9, 2005 I'm getting more into Henderson too. For years I listened to him but didn't hear him, if you know what I mean; he didn't seem to "click" for me. But over the last year or so I find I'm "hearing" him more and more. I don't know why it took so long... Quote
JSngry Posted June 9, 2005 Report Posted June 9, 2005 For years I listened to him but didn't hear him, if you know what I mean; he didn't seem to "click" for me. But over the last year or so I find I'm "hearing" him more and more. I don't know why it took so long... It worked like that for me, too. Quote
Kalo Posted June 9, 2005 Report Posted June 9, 2005 (edited) JSngry Posted Today, 03:45 PM (BruceH @ Jun 9 2005, 12:43 PM) For years I listened to him but didn't hear him, if you know what I mean; he didn't seem to "click" for me. But over the last year or so I find I'm "hearing" him more and more. I don't know why it took so long... It worked like that for me, too. For me the real tipping point on Henderson was hearing his solo on the title tune of Grant Green's Idle Moments RVG. Wow! Though I remember digging Henderson's live at the Vanguard State of the Tenor when that came out in the '80s. I'll have to go back to that one. Edited June 9, 2005 by Kalo Quote
Guy Berger Posted June 10, 2005 Report Posted June 10, 2005 For me the real tipping point on Henderson was hearing his solo on the title tune of Grant Green's Idle Moments RVG. Wow! Though I remember digging Henderson's live at the Vanguard State of the Tenor when that came out in the '80s. I'll have to go back to that one. ← In the spring of 2001 I went through my first BN binge, and this was one of the CDs I purchased. But the one that really turned my head as far as Joe's playing was concerned was The Real McCoy. It's kind of weird but I feel like BN reduced their pace of Joe-recording just as he was hitting his stride -- my favorite Joe is from late '64 onward. Guy Quote
Kalo Posted June 10, 2005 Report Posted June 10, 2005 I'll have to check out The Real McCoy. I'm not a huge Tyner fan, I like him OK, but Henderson's presence makes it much more attractive to me. Thanks for the recommendation, Guy. Quote
Cali Posted June 10, 2005 Report Posted June 10, 2005 I'll have to check out The Real McCoy. You might check out Henderson's INNER URGE, also. It was recorded 2 1/2 years before THE REAL McCOY and both feature Joe, McCoy and Elvin in a quartet. Quote
Guy Berger Posted June 10, 2005 Report Posted June 10, 2005 I'll have to check out The Real McCoy. You might check out Henderson's INNER URGE, also. It was recorded 2 1/2 years before THE REAL McCOY and both feature Joe, McCoy and Elvin in a quartet. ← I'd say the McCoy album is a little better, if only because the three key participants had grown a lot as musicians in the interim. Joe in particular was just starting to hit his stride when Inner Urge was recorded, IMHO. Guy Quote
Cali Posted June 10, 2005 Report Posted June 10, 2005 Yeah, but you gotta admit El Bario is a hell of a ride! Quote
Guy Berger Posted June 10, 2005 Report Posted June 10, 2005 (edited) Yeah, but you gotta admit El Bario is a hell of a ride! ← Oh, I didn't mean to dis IE -- it's my favorite 'Joe as a leader on BN', a real classic. (I agree about "El Barrio" being awesome!) And I didn't mean to dis Joe's earlier music on BN either. It's just that one when I listen to his playing on "Passion Dance", or "Zoltan", or "Freedom Jazz Dance" (from Infinite Search) -- well, he was just getting started on Inner Urge. Guy Edited June 10, 2005 by Guy Berger Quote
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