soulpope Posted August 16 Report Share Posted August 16 10 minutes ago, felser said: Marshall Crenshaw "I Suffered For My Art, Now It's Your Turn" 👌👍 .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted August 16 Report Share Posted August 16 29 minutes ago, felser said: Marshall Crenshaw "I Suffered For My Art, Now It's Your Turn" Stolen from Neil Innes on Rutland Weekend Television. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Teasing the Korean Posted August 16 Report Share Posted August 16 The Young Mods' Forgotten Story - The Impressions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjazzg Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 9 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said: The Young Mods' Forgotten Story - The Impressions I've never really thought about the meaning behind that title before. Does 'Mods' in the US refer to the same youth and style group as over here? Great album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 I always liked "The Bath of Surprise" by Steve Beresford and "Weasels Ripped my Flesh" by the Mothers of Invention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 2 hours ago, Rabshakeh said: I always liked "The Bath of Surprise" by Steve Beresford and "Weasels Ripped my Flesh" by the Mothers of Invention. 👍 for Weasels Ripped My Flesh which is a pretty good record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 (edited) 6 hours ago, mjazzg said: I've never really thought about the meaning behind that title before. Does 'Mods' in the US refer to the same youth and style group as over here? Great album Yes and no. In the US, "mod" was used primarily as an adjective to describe anything hip, groovy, contemporary. This would have been primarily mid-60s to maybe very early 70s at the latest. The US in general was aware of Carnaby Street and fashion, but less aware of UK mods as a subculture. That said, US soul/R&B acts who toured England were well aware of the mod scene and its obsession with US soul/R&B. This surfaced in the recent Stax doc. So it is possible that the Impressions knew about the UK mod scene. The lyrics to the title tune, though, don't necessarily support that idea. For what it's worth, I had heard the term "mod" since I was a very little kid, but didn't understand what it was all about until I started getting into the (early) Who and Small Faces. The film of Quadrophenia was a revelation for kids in the US. Edited August 17 by Teasing the Korean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 21 minutes ago, Teasing the Korean said: Yes and no. In the US, "mod" was used primarily as an adjective to describe anything hip, groovy, contemporary. This would have been primarily mid-60s to maybe very early 70s at the latest. The US in general was aware of Carnaby Street and fashion, but less aware of UK mods as a subculture. That said, US soul/R&B acts who toured England were well aware of the mod scene and its obsession with US soul/R&B. This surfaced in the recent Stax doc. So it is possible that the Impressions knew about the UK mod scene. The lyrics to the title tune, though, don't necessarily support that idea. For what it's worth, I had heard the term "mod" since I was a very little kid, but didn't understand what it was all about until I started getting into the (early) Who and Small Faces. The film of Quadrophenia was a revelation for kids in the US. Thanks TTK, that's interesting. The film Quadrophenia kicked off a big revival here too, a friend went as far as a Vespa and a fish tailed parka. Looking back though, the casting of Sting may have worked commercially but not aesthetically. Of course, the Two Tone revival had already raised awareness of an adjacent subculture. I was 16 and suddenly sourcing small collared shirts and skinny ties...a short step to Mod from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, mjazzg said: Thanks TTK, that's interesting. The film Quadrophenia kicked off a big revival here too, a friend went as far as a Vespa and a fish tailed parka. Looking back though, the casting of Sting may have worked commercially but not aesthetically. Of course, the Two Tone revival had already raised awareness of an adjacent subculture. I was 16 and suddenly sourcing small collared shirts and skinny ties...a short step to Mod from there You and I may be close in age. When I was in high school, I went through a punk/new wave phase, and then I became a full-on mod for several years. I never had a Vespa, but I had a parka, three-button jackets with narrow lapels, and skinny ties. And I listened to the Who, Kinks, Small Faces, American soul/R&B, and all that the Two Tone stuff. Plus a lot of ska/blue beat from the 1960s. Quadrophenia I think is a really good film, and by far one of the best "rock" films. I rate it above Purple Rain or any of the Fabs' films. And from photos and archival footage I've seen, they really nailed the period. I always wondered, though, about the scene in which the Mods crash the party and put the My Generation album on the hi-fi. Instead of showing the UK Brunswick LP cover, they show the 70s US MCA twofer reissue of My Generation/Magic Bus. I've wondered if that was a glaring continuity glitch, or if it was the Who's sly comment on the state of their US catalog. Edited August 17 by Teasing the Korean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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soulpope Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 19 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said: The Young Mods' Forgotten Story - The Impressions Great album ("Mighty, Mighty") .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 55 minutes ago, Teasing the Korean said: You and I may be close in age. When I was in high school, I went through a punk/new wave phase, and then I became a full-on mod for several years. I never had a Vespa, but I had a parka, three-button jackets with narrow lapels, and skinny ties. And I listened to the Who, Kinks, Small Faces, American soul/R&B, and all that the Two Tone stuff. Plus a lot of ska/blue beat from the 1960s. Quadrophenia I think is a really good film, and by far one of the best "rock" films. I rate it above Purple Rain or any of the Fabs' films. And from photos and archival footage I've seen, they really nailed the period. I always wondered, though, about the scene in which the Mods crash the party and put the My Generation album on the hi-fi. Instead of showing the UK Brunswick LP cover, they show the 70s US MCA twofer reissue of My Generation/Magic Bus. I've wondered if that was a glaring continuity glitch, or if it was the Who's sly comment on the state of their US catalog. I'm 62 so 15 to 18 from Punk through the Two Tone and Mod revivals Maybe I should try and watch the film again. You watched closer than I did and knew your Who albums better than me. I have never really liked The Who in any of their phases. I was listening to The Jam and then solo Weller rather the original bands. Weller is a huge Curtis fan, when I saw one of the final Jam concerts, in Brighton, they did a sensational 'Move On Up'. By then they were effectively proto-Style Council which was fine by me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rabshakeh Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 (edited) On 8/17/2024 at 4:08 PM, Teasing the Korean said: When I was in high school, I went through a punk/new wave phase, and then I became a full-on mod for several years. Were there other mods at your school? I had no idea that the concept had crossed the Atlantic. Did Quadrophenia get a big US release? Edited August 21 by Rabshakeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 2 hours ago, Rabshakeh said: Were there other mods at your school? I had no idea that the concept had crossed the Atlantic. Did Quadrophenia get a big US release? I was one of a loosely associated group of misfits. I had friends who were into punk, new wave, and the neo-mod/Two-Tone thing, in varying ratios. As far as the mod concept crossing the Atlantic, it was superficial, in that it was limited to fashion and music. We were divorced from the socio-cultural factors that led to the mod movement in the first place. So I guess I was engaging in cultural appropriation. As for the film of Quadrophenia, midnight movies were a big thing in the US in the late 1970s and early 1980s. These would include any kind of youth culture film, directly or indirectly. Films like A Clockwork Orange, The Man Who Fell to Earth, and all kinds of concert films from Woodstock on down. Even at that age, I would set my expectations low for rock films, as many of them struck me even then as cash grabs. I first saw Quadrophenia at one of these showings, and it exceeded my expectations in terms of writing and production values. I don't know if it got a "big" release in the US, but it was ubiquitous for a few years on the midnight movie circuit, and the soundtrack album was everywhere, including the cutout bins. I haven't seen the film in decades, but writing about it here, I'm tempted to revisit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rostasi Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 This is still a favorite from my early days. We'd dance up and down the aisles of the theatre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 1 hour ago, Teasing the Korean said: As far as the mod concept crossing the Atlantic, it was superficial, in that it was limited to fashion and music. We were divorced from the socio-cultural factors that led to the mod movement in the first place. So I guess I was engaging in cultural appropriation. I'm not sure that that wasn't also the case for the vast majority of those involved in the UK Mod revival in the 80s. It was the fashion and, some of, the music predominantly here too. I don't remember a particularly great connection to or insight into the 60s movement other than by imitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 45 minutes ago, mjazzg said: I'm not sure that that wasn't also the case for the vast majority of those involved in the UK Mod revival in the 80s. It was the fashion and, some of, the music predominantly here too. I don't remember a particularly great connection to or insight into the 60s movement other than by imitation. That makes sense. Still, it seems like we lacked context in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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