Classical compositions...

[bertrand]

What is the original piece of music that became:

1. My Reverie (Claude Debussy is the composer)

2. These Are The Things I Love (Tchaikovsky composer)

Also, what is the piece of music from which Woody Shaw lifted the intro to 'Zoltan'?

Thanks,

Bertrand.

[Guy Berger]

What is the original piece of music that became:

1. My Reverie (Claude Debussy is the composer)

2. These Are The Things I Love (Tchaikovsky composer)

Also, what is the piece of music from which Woody Shaw lifted the intro to 'Zoltan'?

Thanks,

Bertrand.

I think it's from the Hary Janos Suite, composed by Zoltan Kodaly.

Didn't Coltrane borrow from two different classical compositions when writing the melody of "Impressions"?

Guy

Edited May 2, 2005 by Guy Berger

[Michael Fitzgerald]

Yes, Ravel's Pavane pour une infante defunte and Morton Gould's Pavanne from his Symphonette No. 2 (kind of classical-pops). Put the two of these on top of So What harmonies and you've got Impressions.

The Debussy is just titled "Reverie" and the Tchaikovsky is his "Melodie" Op. 42.

Mike

[bertrand]

Thanks Mike and Guy.

Since Guy brought up the whole 'Pavanne'/'Impressions' thing, I had another question about that.

I can't discern any similarities between 'Pavanne' as recorded by Larry Young, and 'Impressions'. Is it the different harmonies that are throwing me off? Any guidelines that might help me make the connection?

Thanks,

Bertrand.

Edited May 2, 2005 by bertrand

[Eloe Omoe]

Yes, Ravel's Pavane pour une infante defunte and Morton Gould's Pavanne from his Symphonette No. 2 (kind of classical-pops). Put the two of these on top of So What harmonies and you've got Impressions.

The "Impressions" theme is clearly played, many years before Coltrane's Impulse recording, by Ahmad Jamal in his version of Gould's "Pavanne" (Epic, 1955) B-)

Luca

[Michael Fitzgerald]

Well, yes, obviously, because Jamal plays what Gould wrote in 1938. Jimmie Lunceford and Charlie Barnet had versions in 1940 - maybe Glenn Miller in 1939.

Mike

[Eloe Omoe]

Well, yes, obviously, because Jamal plays what Gould wrote in 1938. Jimmie Lunceford and Charlie Barnet had versions in 1940 - maybe Glenn Miller in 1939.

Wasn't Lewis Porter who wrote that in 1947 Coltrane had played an arrangement of Ravel's Pavane?

Luca

[ghost of miles]

Bertrand, don't know if your interest extends this far, but there's a good ASV compilation called JAZZING THE CLASSICS that features the kind of tunes you're talking about, drawn from the late 1930s/early 1940s, when that trend was in vogue.

[White Lightning]

There's a tune on one of the Zoot Sims-Jimmy Rowles albums called "Brahms... I think"

[Nate Dorward]

The book of Kismet makes use of Borodin, including "Baubles Bangles & Beads" & "Stranger in Paradise". -- Then there's Dvorak & "Going Home". Nice version on Bill Mays's Palmetto disc.

Art Tatum of course did a lot of stride piano versions of light classical repertoire.

[Nate Dorward]

Re: Zoltan: the source according to the liner notes is the march in Kodaly's "Hary Janos Suite".

[vibes]

It seems like I remember reading that Wayne Shorter's "Dance Cadaverous" was inspired by Sibelius' "Valse Triste," which also appeared later on a different Wayne Shorter album. I don't have either available to confirm right now, but maybe someone else does.

[Larry Kart]

I believe that Ravel's Pavane pour une infante defunte is also the basis of "The Lamp is Low." And Duke Jordan's "Jordu" makes use of "In the Hall of the Mountain King" from Grieg's Peer Gynt Suite.

[MartyJazz]

Chick Corea's "Spain" owes much to Rodrigo's "Concierto de Aranjuez".

[7/4]

Paul Bley's "And Now The Queen" uses the opening notes of the Rite of Spring.