Baseball 2005

[Dave James]

Jeff Kent is a jerk, but Milton Bradley is a punk. I would not want either of these morons on my team.

The Yanks and Boston play six more times. Three in New York on the 10th, 11th and 12th of next month and then the last three games of the season in Boston on September 30th, October 1st and 2nd. That should pretty much hammer things out. Just hope the networks manage to get all six games on the tube. High drama for sure.

Curt Shilling has got to have people worried based on last night's outing and several less that stellar closing efforts. That rather un-Shilling like ERA that's currently just south of 7.00 is a telling tale. However, last night on ESPN, Jeff Brantley said fans should not be too focused on outcomes or results right now. Point being, Shilling can still bring on the high heat and throw the nasty splitter, but he needs time to get back in the groove. If you're a Sox fan, you better hope he's right.

Shawn Chacon is starting to look like a pretty good pick-up for the Yanks. Now I hear they're looking at Aaron Sele. I thought some of their earlier moves defined desperation (Leiter and Nomo), but if they go after this guy, it's almost like running up a white flag. There simply isn't any gas left in his tank.

Up over and out.

Edited August 26, 2005 by Dave James

[Soulstation1]

gooden's locked up for 2 months

what a fool........

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2143510

[Matthew]

Just very sad what has happend to Gooden. I remember him pitching a 1-0 victory over the Giants at the 'Stick in his second year. The game could've gone on forever and the Giants never would of scored. Doc and Cesear Cedeno (sp??) were the two best young baseball players I ever watched. Heck, Leo the Lip called Cedeno the equal to Willie Mays in talent! and to see Gooden reduced to his present state is just terrible.

[Soulstation1]

doc and the rocket started in the majors around the same time 1984

the rocket is still kicking ass and is 3/4 years older than doc

[Matthew]

  Soulstation1 said:

doc and the rocket started in the majors around the same time 1984

the rocket is still kicking ass and is 3/4 years older than doc

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Not to mention Strawberry. Come to think about it, HoJo burned out quick, though the deal with him was steroids, from what I understand -- body just broke down. There's going have to be some kiss-and-tell book coming out about that Met team one of these days.

[Soulstation1]

the straw man liked the coke more than becoming one of the greats of the game

what did he finish with almost 400 hrs??

waste of talent

[Dave James]

Outside of Ted Williams, I think Strawberry had the sweetest swing I've ever seen. Almost effortless...like watching Ernie Els hit a golf ball.

Up over and out.

[Matthew]

  Dave James said:

Outside of Ted Williams, I think Strawberry had the sweetest swing I've ever seen.  Almost effortless...like watching Ernie Els hit a golf ball. 

Up over and out.

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Will Clark and Ken Griffey, when he played in Seattle, are the two that I loved to watch. I just try to forget that Clark liked dropping N-bombs on Jeff Leonard.

[Randy Twizzle]

  Matthew said:

Not to mention Strawberry.  Come to think about it, HoJo burned out quick, though the deal with him was steroids, from what I understand -- body just broke down.  There's going have to be some kiss-and-tell book coming out about that Met team one of these days.

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There already was such a book, written by Jeff Pearlman: "The Bad Guys Won!" A Season of Brawling, Boozing, Bimbo-chasing, and Championship Baseball with Straw, Doc, Mookie, Nails, The Kid, and the Rest of the 1986 Mets, the Rowdiest Team Ever to Put on a New York Uniform--and Maybe the Best

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...651138?v=glance

[Dave James]

Matthew,

Jeff Leonard? You must mean Jeffrey Leonard. He would not book being called Jeff over the last few years of his career. Also, I'm reminded that Mr. Leonard at some point acquired one of the more memorable nicknames in the entire history of baseball, "Penitentiary Face".

Up over and out.

[sheldonm]

  Soulstation1 said:

the straw man liked the coke more than becoming one of the greats of the game

what did he finish with almost 400 hrs??

waste of talent

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While in Cooperstown a few weeks ago for the Hall of Fame Ceremonies, I spotted the Straw man in a small diner. As he stood up to leave, I spoke to him for about 45 seconds. Seems like a nice guy; he was heading outside to an autograph session. Here was a guy with the world in the palm of his hands and it slipped away....a shame!

Mark

[Matthew]

  Dave James said:

Matthew,

Jeff Leonard?  You must mean Jeffrey Leonard.  He would not book being called Jeff over the last few years of his career.  Also, I'm reminded that Mr. Leonard at some point acquired one of the more memorable nicknames in the entire history of baseball, "Penitentiary Face".

Up over and out.

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That's the man. Didn't Jeffrey also, at one time, incorporate into his homerun trot, flying like a plane?

[Randy Twizzle]

  sheldonm said:

While in Cooperstown a few weeks ago for the Hall of Fame Ceremonies, I spotted the Straw man in a small diner.  As he stood up to leave, I spoke to him for about 45 seconds.  Seems like a nice guy; he was heading outside to an autograph session.  Here was a guy with the world in the palm of his hands and it slipped away....a shame!

Mark

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He's been born again...again. I think he's trying for the all time record.

[sheldonm]

  Matthew said:

  Dave James said:

Matthew,

Jeff Leonard?  You must mean Jeffrey Leonard.  He would not book being called Jeff over the last few years of his career.  Also, I'm reminded that Mr. Leonard at some point acquired one of the more memorable nicknames in the entire history of baseball, "Penitentiary Face".

Up over and out.

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That's the man. Didn't Jeffrey also, at one time, incorporate into his homerun trot, flying like a plane?

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It was the "one wing down" thing....kinda irratating!

[sheldonm]

  Randy Twizzle said:

  sheldonm said:

While in Cooperstown a few weeks ago for the Hall of Fame Ceremonies, I spotted the Straw man in a small diner.  As he stood up to leave, I spoke to him for about 45 seconds.  Seems like a nice guy; he was heading outside to an autograph session.  Here was a guy with the world in the palm of his hands and it slipped away....a shame!

Mark

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He's been born again...again. I think he's trying for the all time record.

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How many times can one person be reborn???

[Dan Gould]

  sheldonm said:

  Matthew said:

  Dave James said:

Matthew,

Jeff Leonard?  You must mean Jeffrey Leonard.  He would not book being called Jeff over the last few years of his career.  Also, I'm reminded that Mr. Leonard at some point acquired one of the more memorable nicknames in the entire history of baseball, "Penitentiary Face".

Up over and out.

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That's the man. Didn't Jeffrey also, at one time, incorporate into his homerun trot, flying like a plane?

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It was the "one wing down" thing....kinda irratating!

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I think he called it "flap down."

[Soulstation1]

the straw man has been saved more times than his career home run total...............

his current wife is a good woman

Edited August 27, 2005 by Soulstation1

[Brad]

Mets on a roll . Let's see what develops. Not going crazy yet. This is just a build up until next year but they're only 4 behind the tomahawk choppin' fools.

[BERIGAN]

  Brad said:

Mets on a roll   .  Let's see what develops.  Not going crazy yet.  This is just a build up until next year but they're only 4 behind the tomahawk choppin' fools.

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Dream on! It is written that the Braves win every Division race til the year 2055.

It is also written that the Braves then will lose in the first or second round every year.

[MartyJazz]

Red Sox now up on Yanks by only 1-1/2 games. Looks like the six games left between the two teams will decide another AL East division champ.

[Dan Gould]

Shows how crazy baseball can be:

KC butchers a game ending DP and the Yanks somehow string together five straight hits for a ridiculous comeback.

Then the Sox blow a six run lead at home where they were riding a 14 game win streak.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

[Soulstation1]

dan

what will happen if the yanks AND the tribe pass up your beloved red sox?

lol

[Big Al]

Alright, there needs to be a rule change: fuck this "blown save" shit, if a reliever gives up the lead, whether it be a tying run or a go-ahead run, if that lead holds up, then the pitcher who gave up that lead gets the "L." By the same token, if a reliever comes in, and his team is down by two runs, but then HE gives up, say, FIVE runs, then his team scores three runs, then the pitcher who gave up those FIVE runs would be tagged with the "L."

There is no sane reason in the world why fucking Francisco Cordero should not be shouldered with the "L" after today's fiasco. If he'd have done his job, Shouse wouldn't've had to come in, and he wouldn't have yet another of Choke-Co's messes to mop up.

Fair? Maybe not, but sure as hell better than the current system. That way, Cordero's lousy pitching would be out there for future teams to see: he'd have many more well-earned L's in his record!

[Dan Gould]

  Soulstation1 said:

dan

what will happen if the yanks AND the tribe pass up your beloved red sox?

lol

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While I don't believe it can happen, the fact of the matter is that it is simply remarkable that the Sox have reached this point in the season in the position they are in, considering the injuries to Schilling and Foulke. Would the Yanks be talking playoffs right now if they'd gotten four starts from the Unit or Mussina all year, and had an ineffective Mariano Rivera go from blowing saves and losing games to missing six weeks with knee surgery? Don't think so.

[ghost of miles]

  MartyJazz said:

Red Sox now up on Yanks by only 1-1/2 games.  Looks like the six games left between the two teams will decide another AL East division champ.

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Statistically speaking, I'd say the odds are against the Yanks... they've got 10 more road games than home ones left, whereas it's the exact opposite with the Bosox. And both teams have much better percentages at home this year.

Of course, it's baseball, and all sorts of crazy things can happen...