The Three Sounds

[Jazz Kat]

The Three Sounds play Jazz On Broadway.

Label: Mercury

not blue note, year: 1962. I thought this was pretty rare. Just picked it up today, have it spinning. Dan Gould, what do you think of this? Have you ever heard it?

[Dan Gould]

I remember I spotted this at a record show at a time when I didn't know the non-BN Three Sounds discography, so it was quite a pleasant surprise, just finding it. Its OK. nothing special though.

[Rooster_Ties]

OK, Dan, if you could snap your fingers and have BN reissue two "Three Sounds" titles as RVG's -- which two would be the most deserving of wide availability to the general buying public??

[Jazz Kat]

You didn't ask me, but I'd say Black Orchid and Moods.

[Jazz Kat]

This is the non BN album that I got today. It's of a diff. label though.

[Dan Gould]

  Rooster_Ties said:

OK, Dan, if you could snap your fingers and have BN reissue two "Three Sounds" titles as RVG's -- which two would be the most deserving of wide availability to the general buying public??

Moods and maybe Good Deal or Here We Come.

[Jazz Kat]

Oh I love that Here We Come cover. Some Amazon reviewer was real pissed that was a Japenese reissue.

[JohnS]

Thanks for the recommendations Dan. It's a while since the Three Sounds graced my turnatable so I'll give those a spin.

[Jazz Kat]

They're reminding me of the ramsey lewis trio as I play The Sounds play Jazz on Broadway.

[Jazz Kat]

  Rooster_Ties said:

OK, Dan, if you could snap your fingers and have BN reissue two "Three Sounds" titles as RVG's -- which two would be the most deserving of wide availability to the general buying public??

Is it hoping too much, to think that they will be soon? Or at all?

[t brooks]

i email mosaic about a 3 sounds box set last december and was told they are workin on put one out [ bluenote stuff only] in 3 or 4 small box sets so i'll just hang on to my 12 blue note lps and wait to see

[Dan Gould]

  t brooks said:

i email mosaic about a 3 sounds box set last december and was told they are workin on put one out [ bluenote stuff only] in 3 or 4 small box sets so i'll just hang on to my 12 blue note lps and wait to see

So obviously its going to be a series of Mosaic Selects. That's probably best, and it would also mean that the Four Sounds recording I found could be added easily and logically.

[Dan Gould]

This seems like the right place to mention that I got an email from Michael about some suggested organizational schemes for Three Sounds Mosaics (someone here suggested them but I can't recall who) and his reply strongly implied that he is indeed anticipating doing the '58-'62 Three Sounds, in three Selects.

[Bill B]

If memory serves me correctly,there is more unissued Three Sounds material in the vaults than anyone else who was in their stable.

[Hardbopjazz]

  Bill B said:

If memory serves me correctly,there is more unissued Three Sounds material in the vaults than anyone else who was in their stable.

I think their Blue Note vault stuff has made it out there. I'm not sure about the other labels they were on in between their 2 times on Blue Note. Dan should know this better then anyone else.

[Bill Fenohr]

Through 1962 i count 27 tracks that are still listed as unissued. Ofcourse i have no way of knowing if they are complete takes.

[Dan Gould]

Michael definitely won't consider the unissued tracks for a Mosaic, at least not as a single Mosaic set. Said it would be akin to putting out "The Worst of The Three Sounds - The blue Note Years."

[alankin]

  Dan Gould said:

Michael definitely won't consider the unissued tracks for a Mosaic, at least not as a single Mosaic set.  Said it would be akin to putting out "The Worst of The Three Sounds -  The blue Note Years."

Would he consider adding several of the unissued tracks to the 1958-62 Selects that he's planning?

Edited April 26, 2005 by alankin

[Dan Gould]

  alankin said:

  Dan Gould said:

Michael definitely won't consider the unissued tracks for a Mosaic, at least not as a single Mosaic set.  Said it would be akin to putting out "The Worst of The Three Sounds -  The blue Note Years."

Would he consider adding several of the unissued tracks to the 1958-62 Selects that he's planning?

I don't think so, for two reasons.

He spoke of "fitting them" into three Selects, which suggests that he realizes that with all the recordings they did in that period, it might be a snug fit to include all of them.

His statement that he doesn't think the unissued stuff is deserving of release.

Also, other than the Hill Select, haven't the Selects just concentrated on original albums only and not considered alternates or unissued tunes? I think he wants to stick with that approach, and leave alternates/unissued stuff for the full Mosaic boxes.

[AllenLowe]

just make sure, if anyone uses the re-masters that I've done, that they credit me - and pay, if possible -

[Dan Gould]

  AllenLowe said:

just make sure, if anyone uses the re-masters that I've done, that they credit me - and pay, if possible -

Of course, but Michael has also said that one of the reasons he doesn't intend to use your transfer was fidelity.

[AllenLowe]

I understand, but that's the condition the record was in - I've heard many reissues with sound that was equivalent to what you have there - historical considerations might outweigh other things, eventually, and someone should issue these -

[Dan Gould]

  AllenLowe said:

I understand, but that's the condition the record was in - I've heard many reissues with sound that was equivalent to what you have there - historical considerations might outweigh other things, eventually, and someone should issue these -

I agree, but its not the way Michael sees it, and since Blue Note is where the music belongs and between Mosaic and his other gig he pretty much controls BN reissues, I'm not sure it will have a chance to be heard. That is unless someone comes up with what he suggested was the place for it:

"Curios of the 1950s"

Edited April 26, 2005 by Dan Gould

[AllenLowe]

well, let me ask you a question - the record was a demo, privately recorded - or am I incorrect in this? Because if it was, it can be issued with the permission of the musicans's estates - (unless there is some contemperaneous Blue Note contract that contradicts this) -

[Dan Gould]

I'm really not sure ... one of Michael's other reasons for not wanting to include this in any Three Sounds set was, "questionable ownership".

There is some question about the circumstances of the recording, because Bill Dowdy says that while the band rehearsed at Boddie Recording "all the time" he says that at no time were they aware that they were being recorded, which contradicts what Gene told his wife. So maybe that's what Michael was referring to, that there may be some claim of ownership by the recording studio?