jlhoots Posted May 11, 2010 Report Posted May 11, 2010 24. The final season is now 21 hours down and things are getting very heavy indeed. I thought this show would go out with a fizzle but I was wrong. Anyone else watching? I'm watching it. Have been there since Season 1. Pretty intense. Is Logan the next to go down? I definitely won't miss the last 3 hours. Quote
BruceH Posted May 11, 2010 Report Posted May 11, 2010 The climactic scene in the car park was one of the tightest, best-shot bits of action I've ever seen on tv. The tension is still there on a third viewing. Damn, yes! After Hank got the call and was looking around, I was just about ready to crawl out of my skin. Latest episode: Apparently Gus controls the universe. Quote
mikelz777 Posted May 11, 2010 Report Posted May 11, 2010 The latest episode of "Breaking Bad" was another excellent one. It looks like Gus is making the power grab. That would seem to signal that Walt's deal to work for "only" 3 months is probably going to turn into something lasting much longer. They're not going to want to give up that revenue source. I still can't figure out who might have warned Hank that the two brothers were about to kill him. If it came from Gus' camp, why would they want Hank alive? Were they banking on him killing the brothers? Could they possibly be banking on Hank not turning in Walt if/when he finds out about Walt's cooking and possibly getting a hold on someone who's in law enforcement? I thought it might have been his former partner but he hasn't been acting like it might have been him. Quote
BruceH Posted May 11, 2010 Report Posted May 11, 2010 Okay, one episode, and I'm hooked. Were you a big fan of "Kolchak - The Night Stalker" back in the day? Quote
BruceH Posted May 11, 2010 Report Posted May 11, 2010 The latest episode of "Breaking Bad" was another excellent one. It looks like Gus is making the power grab. That would seem to signal that Walt's deal to work for "only" 3 months is probably going to turn into something lasting much longer. They're not going to want to give up that revenue source. I still can't figure out who might have warned Hank that the two brothers were about to kill him. If it came from Gus' camp, why would they want Hank alive? Were they banking on him killing the brothers? Could they possibly be banking on Hank not turning in Walt if/when he finds out about Walt's cooking and possibly getting a hold on someone who's in law enforcement? I thought it might have been his former partner but he hasn't been acting like it might have been him. I see it this way: It was Gus who gave the order to warn Hank. This gives Hank a better chance against the twins which is ultimately good for Gus any way you look at it. A)Hank and the twins kill each other. Win-win. B)Hank manages to kill the twins and get out unscathed. Unlikely, but then the twins are gone and Hank can be dealt with later. C)Both are heavily injured and easier to deal with down the road. As it happened, one twin dead, the other in ICU and easy to stealth-murder, Hank hanging by a thread. Gus is feeling good. Also, clearly Gus banked on the unprecedented attempt on a DEA-agent's life on American soil to cause a ton of shit to rain down on his Mexican contact, who had become troublesome. My questing is, what if Walter becomes perceived by Gus as a liability? Not good for Walt. Quote
mikelz777 Posted May 11, 2010 Report Posted May 11, 2010 (edited) The latest episode of "Breaking Bad" was another excellent one. It looks like Gus is making the power grab. That would seem to signal that Walt's deal to work for "only" 3 months is probably going to turn into something lasting much longer. They're not going to want to give up that revenue source. I still can't figure out who might have warned Hank that the two brothers were about to kill him. If it came from Gus' camp, why would they want Hank alive? Were they banking on him killing the brothers? Could they possibly be banking on Hank not turning in Walt if/when he finds out about Walt's cooking and possibly getting a hold on someone who's in law enforcement? I thought it might have been his former partner but he hasn't been acting like it might have been him. I see it this way: It was Gus who gave the order to warn Hank. This gives Hank a better chance against the twins which is ultimately good for Gus any way you look at it. A)Hank and the twins kill each other. Win-win. B)Hank manages to kill the twins and get out unscathed. Unlikely, but then the twins are gone and Hank can be dealt with later. C)Both are heavily injured and easier to deal with down the road. As it happened, one twin dead, the other in ICU and easy to stealth-murder, Hank hanging by a thread. Gus is feeling good. Also, clearly Gus banked on the unprecedented attempt on a DEA-agent's life on American soil to cause a ton of shit to rain down on his Mexican contact, who had become troublesome. My questing is, what if Walter becomes perceived by Gus as a liability? Not good for Walt. Your theory about how things went down is probably a good one. However things were to shake out, it was going to be beneficial to Gus and he'd deal with whatever was left over from the situation after the fact. Re: Walt being seen as a liability. Gus isn't stupid and I think he already sees Walt as a calculated risk. Walt reinforced that when he rejected Gale and replaced him with Jesse and when he was caught being less than forthcoming about his brother-in-law being a DEA agent and had to apologize when Gus shows up at the hospital. The balance between Walt being a liability and him being too profitable to give up for the time being is already precarious. Edited May 13, 2010 by mikelz777 Quote
Van Basten II Posted May 13, 2010 Report Posted May 13, 2010 Have joined the rest of the Montreal civilisation watching the hockey game. Quote
kinuta Posted May 14, 2010 Report Posted May 14, 2010 The last two episodes of Flash Forward. The show has a lot of faults, being interesting is not one of them, but at least they are keeping the plot thread reasonably grounded with rational explanations for the phenomenon, the collider experiment angle adds a needed layer of credibility to tie together the disparate plot lines. At least that's how it strikes me. Quote
jazzbo Posted May 14, 2010 Report Posted May 14, 2010 The colider experiment is straight from the novel, and one of the few plot elements not tampered with heavily for TV. I actually liked this show a lot better before it's break and reorganization than after the return. Oh well. I'll watch to the end. Quote
kinuta Posted May 14, 2010 Report Posted May 14, 2010 (edited) Shows how much I know, I wasn't aware it was based on a novel. Who's the author ? BTW is the big foot avatar biting the dust when you know what finishes ? Edited May 14, 2010 by kinuta Quote
jazzbo Posted May 14, 2010 Report Posted May 14, 2010 Maybe, or maybe not. . . . Oddly enough, the author of FlashForward's name is Sawyer. Quote
BruceH Posted May 15, 2010 Report Posted May 15, 2010 Oh-oh. I just heard that the original "Law & Order" series has been canceled. This means that the apocalypse is nigh. Quote
jazzbo Posted May 15, 2010 Report Posted May 15, 2010 Heroes and FlashForward have been canceled. V however goes on. Ah well. Quote
Shawn Posted May 15, 2010 Report Posted May 15, 2010 Heroes and FlashForward have been canceled. V however goes on. Ah well. There's no way either of those shows was anywhere near as bad as "V". That one was about as pleasurable as a root canal. Quote
mikelz777 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 Heroes and FlashForward have been canceled. V however goes on. Ah well. There's no way either of those shows was anywhere near as bad as "V". That one was about as pleasurable as a root canal. "Heroes" became a muddled mess which lost my household's viewership a long time ago. (2nd season?) I was somewhat disappointed to hear that "Flash Forward" wasn't going to get to unwind a little more but at the same time, I don't think that I'm going to miss it. (For some reason, I hated the whole Olivia/Lloyd storyline and Lloyd in general.) Still, I liked "Flash Forward" much better than "V" of which I'm quickly losing interest. Quote
Jazzmoose Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 Is "V" based on the "V" from ages ago, or is it something different? Quote
mikelz777 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 I hope I'm wrong but last night's episode of "Lost" didn't exactly assure me that this is going to have a cool ending. The whole "protecting the light in the cave" thing seems pretty hokey and there seems to be a ton of loose ends to resolve in just a 2-hour final. Quote
mikelz777 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 (edited) Is "V" based on the "V" from ages ago, or is it something different? I never saw the original but yes, it's based on the "V" from the early 80's which apparently was a 2-part mini series. Edited May 19, 2010 by mikelz777 Quote
jazzbo Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 Actually, last night's episode reassured me that Lost is going to speed to a conclusion in an action movie sort of way, and we've seen all the hokey mythology we're going to see. As a fan of ancient history I'd sure like to see some mention of the Egyptian statue, temple and writing, and even Jacob's Egyptian tapestry he was working on but don't expect to. Still, the mythology doesn't bother me, it's just another allegory of the age-old telling and retelling of things, what I've always watched Lost for was the unveiling of the lives and nature and temperament of the characters and the innovative story-telling methods, which I think have been more successful than not. I'm glad that it appears that the finale will have a brisk pace and I think there's going to be a memorable and definitive conclusion. Quote
alankin Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 Re-watching season one of The Wire with my wife. She's never seen it and I've only seen the first two seasons. Hard to top it. Quote
BruceH Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 Mike, what did you think of the latest episode of Breaking Bad? I managed to miss the damn thing. Quote
mikelz777 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Posted May 19, 2010 Mike, what did you think of the latest episode of Breaking Bad? I managed to miss the damn thing. Thanks for reminding me! I missed it as well. Lately, by the time it rolls around on Sundays I've been too tired to watch it so I've been letting it slip by knowing I can catch it on "On Demand". I need to play some catch-up and watch the latest episodes of "Breaking Bad" as well as "Fringe" which I missed. I'll report when I get a chance to watch it. Quote
mikelz777 Posted May 20, 2010 Report Posted May 20, 2010 (edited) Mike, what did you think of the latest episode of Breaking Bad? I managed to miss the damn thing. Breaking Bad was another good episode. We get some answers and see the beginning of what is sure to be a problem. Hank is going to need extensive physical therapy and other medical care of which only a portion is covered by their insurance and could end up costing them hundreds of thousands of dollars. Skyler suspects that Walt’s “activities” are to blame for the situation Hank is now in and concocts a story for her sister that Walt’s past absences and their troubles have stemmed from Walt being into illegal gambling and that he has profited from it to the tune of seven figures. Skyler assures her sister that they will help take care of the medical bills. Jesse is in a drug counseling group whose participants look as if they are there only to avoid prison or whatever. He’s increasingly frustrated with the situation working with/for Walt and Gus and thinks they are getting ripped off being paid only 3 million when Gus stands to profit so much more for their efforts. Saul proposes Jesse buy a legitimate business to launder their drug money and to keep the IRS at bay and not wondering where he’s getting all this money and paying no taxes. Jesse thinks paying taxes and a percentage to Saul is B.S. and he’s not having it. He proposes getting back into the business with his slacker/drug buddies. Jesse noticed that when he and Walt were weighing out the meth that their batches were going over the expected yields by 1-2 lbs. It looks like he wants to start skimming that excess and selling it on his own with his buddies. (Trouble!) Walt meets with Gus to clear the air and lay all the cards on the table. It’s here that we learned that is was Gus that had called Hank to warn him of the brothers coming to kill him. He wanted a shootout so there would be a big reaction from the U.S. and Mexican governments so that there would be a big crackdown on the Mexican meth ops shutting down traffic south of the border thus giving Gus total control north of the border. It’s here that we also learn that after the three months is over that Walt can continue cooking on an open-end basis. I'm looking forward to seeing where these latest developments take us. Edited May 20, 2010 by mikelz777 Quote
BruceH Posted May 20, 2010 Report Posted May 20, 2010 Walt meets with Gus to clear the air and lay all the cards on the table. It’s here that we learned that is was Gus that had called Hank to warn him of the brothers coming to kill him. He wanted a shootout so there would be a big reaction from the U.S. and Mexican governments so that there would be a big crackdown on the Mexican meth ops shutting down traffic south of the border thus giving Gus total control north of the border. Ah! Just what I thought! Quote
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