sidewinder Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Are you kidding? In Italy is $ 8.14 per gallon, if I correctly converted all the stuff. That's damn cheap ! Minimum I've seen round here is £1.03 a litre, which equates to about £4.60 a gallon, ie. a socking $9.75 a gallon There were 'plans' by the Government to add another 2p per litre tax in todays budget but looks like they might defer it. Maybe they think they will have another fuel mutiny on their hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Are you kidding? In Italy is $ 8.14 per gallon, if I correctly converted all the stuff. That's damn cheap ! Minimum I've seen round here is £1.03 a litre, which equates to about £4.60 a gallon, ie. a socking $9.75 a gallon There were 'plans' by the Government to add another 2p per litre tax in todays budget but looks like they might defer it. Maybe they think they will have another fuel mutiny on their hands. Around here minimum is £1.039. But where you have to go to get that price, you might as well pay the average of £1.069 and save your petrol. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcy62 Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Are you kidding? In Italy is $ 8.14 per gallon, if I correctly converted all the stuff. That's damn cheap ! Minimum I've seen round here is £1.03 a litre, which equates to about £4.60 a gallon, ie. a socking $9.75 a gallon There were 'plans' by the Government to add another 2p per litre tax in todays budget but looks like they might defer it. Maybe they think they will have another fuel mutiny on their hands. Around here minimum is £1.039. But where you have to go to get that price, you might as well pay the average of £1.069 and save your petrol. MG I think I'll pass on my planned motorbike trip to Scotland this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERIGAN Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Are you kidding? In Italy is $ 8.14 per gallon, if I correctly converted all the stuff. That's damn cheap ! Minimum I've seen round here is £1.03 a litre, which equates to about £4.60 a gallon, ie. a socking $9.75 a gallon There were 'plans' by the Government to add another 2p per litre tax in todays budget but looks like they might defer it. Maybe they think they will have another fuel mutiny on their hands. So, you guys don't vote on tax increases, they are just added to the budget????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcy62 Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Are you kidding? In Italy is $ 8.14 per gallon, if I correctly converted all the stuff. That's damn cheap ! Minimum I've seen round here is £1.03 a litre, which equates to about £4.60 a gallon, ie. a socking $9.75 a gallon There were 'plans' by the Government to add another 2p per litre tax in todays budget but looks like they might defer it. Maybe they think they will have another fuel mutiny on their hands. So, you guys don't vote on tax increases, they are just added to the budget????? That's liberism, Baby! Low tax on income, lots of small taxes on goods. Guess who'll be more affected by this kind of taxation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Are you kidding? In Italy is $ 8.14 per gallon, if I correctly converted all the stuff. That's damn cheap ! Minimum I've seen round here is £1.03 a litre, which equates to about £4.60 a gallon, ie. a socking $9.75 a gallon There were 'plans' by the Government to add another 2p per litre tax in todays budget but looks like they might defer it. Maybe they think they will have another fuel mutiny on their hands. So, you guys don't vote on tax increases, they are just added to the budget????? Yeah, we vote on the Government every five years, or so. The theory - and I think it's correct - is that a government should have an integrated tax strategy, which includes different kinds of tax to raise the revenue it thinks it requires. Different mixes of taxes have different effects - on each other and on the behaviour of businesses and individuals. Letting people vote on individual elements in the mix - and people would vote their pockets, of course - risks generating all kinds of counter-productive behaviour that runs against what the government - with the people's consent - is trying to do. That's the theory - it isn't quite as neat as that in practice. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 $3.45 a gallon last night-and that's the cheap place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Are you kidding? In Italy is $ 8.14 per gallon, if I correctly converted all the stuff. That's damn cheap ! Minimum I've seen round here is £1.03 a litre, which equates to about £4.60 a gallon, ie. a socking $9.75 a gallon There were 'plans' by the Government to add another 2p per litre tax in todays budget but looks like they might defer it. Maybe they think they will have another fuel mutiny on their hands. Around here minimum is £1.039. But where you have to go to get that price, you might as well pay the average of £1.069 and save your petrol. MG I think I'll pass on my planned motorbike trip to Scotland this summer. Don't cancel the trip - but I recommend a 50cc Garelli Bimatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe G Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 organissimo Tour of Italy, 2009. organissimo relocation to Italy, 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldB3 Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 (edited) organissimo Tour of Italy, 2009. organissimo relocation to Italy, 2010. If all goes to plan you guys will have a fan and a place to crash just outside of Tuscany. Of course the way the dollar is going its making it harder and harder. Edited March 12, 2008 by WorldB3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERIGAN Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 organissimo Tour of Italy, 2009. organissimo relocation to Italy, 2010. Gonna be tough on you guys moving Jim's instrument of choice via motorcycle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe G Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Yeah well, when has hits $5/gal. or so here, we'll be facing the same problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcy62 Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Are you kidding? In Italy is $ 8.14 per gallon, if I correctly converted all the stuff. That's damn cheap ! Minimum I've seen round here is £1.03 a litre, which equates to about £4.60 a gallon, ie. a socking $9.75 a gallon There were 'plans' by the Government to add another 2p per litre tax in todays budget but looks like they might defer it. Maybe they think they will have another fuel mutiny on their hands. Around here minimum is £1.039. But where you have to go to get that price, you might as well pay the average of £1.069 and save your petrol. MG I think I'll pass on my planned motorbike trip to Scotland this summer. Don't cancel the trip - but I recommend a 50cc Garelli Bimatic Garelli Sweet memories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcy62 Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 organissimo Tour of Italy, 2009. organissimo relocation to Italy, 2010. Gonna be tough on you guys moving Jim's instrument of choice via motorcycle! Are you kidding? We are in the third world where the answer is always: NO PROBLEM. http://www.slideshare.net/yasas/the-real-kingsof-logistics/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 organissimo Tour of Italy, 2009. organissimo relocation to Italy, 2010. Eurorganissimo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 So, you guys don't vote on tax increases, they are just added to the budget????? Yeah, we vote on the Government every five years, or so. The theory - and I think it's correct - is that a government should have an integrated tax strategy, which includes different kinds of tax to raise the revenue it thinks it requires. Different mixes of taxes have different effects - on each other and on the behaviour of businesses and individuals. Letting people vote on individual elements in the mix - and people would vote their pockets, of course - risks generating all kinds of counter-productive behaviour that runs against what the government - with the people's consent - is trying to do. That's the theory - it isn't quite as neat as that in practice. MG Doesn't the budget have to be approved by Parliament anyway? If so I don't see what Berigan finds to be objectionable. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 So, you guys don't vote on tax increases, they are just added to the budget????? Yeah, we vote on the Government every five years, or so. The theory - and I think it's correct - is that a government should have an integrated tax strategy, which includes different kinds of tax to raise the revenue it thinks it requires. Different mixes of taxes have different effects - on each other and on the behaviour of businesses and individuals. Letting people vote on individual elements in the mix - and people would vote their pockets, of course - risks generating all kinds of counter-productive behaviour that runs against what the government - with the people's consent - is trying to do. That's the theory - it isn't quite as neat as that in practice. MG Doesn't the budget have to be approved by Parliament anyway? If so I don't see what Berigan finds to be objectionable. Guy Parliament votes on expenditure - and crawls over whichever items it feels like. But they don't, as far as I've ever heard, vote on proposals for raising money; unless those proposals involve new legislation, which is unusual (but not unheard of) - most tax changes simply change the rates at which a tax is levied and don't require a new Act of Parliament. In any case, what Berigan was talking about (I think) is the notion that specific proposals (including taxes) have to be voted on by the public as part of an election process - other boxes to tick on the voting paper or something. Isn't that the system over there? (sorry to be so slow - connection problems) MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 $3.69 a gallon in Lansing today. It makes the prospect of going to Grand Rapids tomorrow to play a gig for $120 kinda stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldB3 Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Its already 4 in the bay area but we always pay more then the rest of the country. I expect to see 5 by the end of the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 I'm seriously considering finding another job specifically so I don't have to commute. The little bit of extra money I was using to live off of is now being sucked into the bottomless gas tank. I'm now working a second job basically so I can afford to buy the gas to get to the first job. I miss the days when I lived places like Seattle where a car wasn't necessary... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 I'm seriously considering finding another job specifically so I don't have to commute. The little bit of extra money I was using to live off of is now being sucked into the bottomless gas tank. I'm now working a second job basically so I can afford to buy the gas to get to the first job. I miss the days when I lived places like Seattle where a car wasn't necessary... I can't blame ya. I barely travel outside of my neighborhood now unless I really have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 April 23rd, 2008 Another day, another record gas price Posted: 08:25 AM ET (CNN) — Continuing a recent trend, gas prices hit a new record Wednesday, with the national average for a gallon of regular unleaded gasoline coming in at $3.533 — up more than two cents from the previous record of $3.511 set Tuesday, according to AAA. A month ago, the average price per gallon was $3.26. A year ago it was $2.85. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 The gas price is definitely affecting me now. I don't make unnecessary trips at all; heck every trip into town and back costs over $5...if I'm not working, I ain't going. Sure miss my motorcycle now; I switched to a van in order to move out here, and the difference between 50mpg and 20mpg is killing me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldB3 Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 (edited) I'm seriously considering finding another job specifically so I don't have to commute. The little bit of extra money I was using to live off of is now being sucked into the bottomless gas tank. I'm now working a second job basically so I can afford to buy the gas to get to the first job. I miss the days when I lived places like Seattle where a car wasn't necessary... When I visited Seattle last year I was really impressed with how easy it was to get around and how accessible all the neighborhoods were. The busses are free if you stay within the downtown area but even going out to the Ballard distrct from downtown was easy and the busses were constantly running, even on a Sunday. Rain aside its a great city. Edited April 23, 2008 by WorldB3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldB3 Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 April 23rd, 2008 Another day, another record gas price Posted: 08:25 AM ET (CNN) — Continuing a recent trend, gas prices hit a new record Wednesday, with the national average for a gallon of regular unleaded gasoline coming in at $3.533 — up more than two cents from the previous record of $3.511 set Tuesday, according to AAA. A month ago, the average price per gallon was $3.26. A year ago it was $2.85. Where was it 2.85 a year ago, I haven't seen under 3 since the 90's. I am not kidding. From business week - There Is No Gas Shortage But Washington, Wall Street, and ethanol and oil and gas companies want you to think there is, says automotive expert Ed Wallace http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/cont...8041_945564.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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