king ubu Posted March 28, 2005 Author Report Posted March 28, 2005 And Mike: you mixed them Ambrosettis up in your last post, the old man, Flavio, is the alto player. There is by now a third generation working, Franco's son, who plays sax, but I haven't heard anything of him. And I was aware from the beginning that the Byrd/Coles album is a Pearson date, I was just referring to the disc I got (I'm also aware of all the stolen Bailey dates). ubu Quote
mikeweil Posted March 28, 2005 Report Posted March 28, 2005 And Mike: you mixed them Ambrosettis up in your last post, the old man, Flavio, is the alto player. There is by now a third generation working, Franco's son, who plays sax, but I haven't heard anything of him. And I was aware from the beginning that the Byrd/Coles album is a Pearson date, I was just referring to the disc I got (I'm also aware of all the stolen Bailey dates). ubu That ambrosio stills seems to be working, even in its diminuited form as a name ... Didn't mean to imply any assault as far as the Jazzline issues is concerned, the way you wrote it sounded to me as if you weren't aware of them being re-attributed sessions. B-) Quote
marcoliv Posted March 28, 2005 Report Posted March 28, 2005 8. Whisper Not (Benny Golson) Erwin Müller Trio Erwin Müller (acc), Jacky Weidmann (b), Ueli Roser (d) Jazzfestival Zürich (Switzerland), September 15, 1965. Released on LP Ex Libris GB 393, reissued on CD2 of "Jazz in Switzerland 1930-1975" (Elite Special 4CD 9544002/1-4) The only thing I know about Müller is that he took up the drums and is supposed to be active (or at least was, back in the nineties). Google for "Erwin Müller" and you will find that there's quite a bunch of people with that name... I love the way he cuts into one of my all time favourite compositions, and I love the sonority he gets out of his weirdo instrument, too. And most important: he swings! This man is hell, one of the most fascinating tracks on the first disc. It's pitty so little is known about him. that's why i'm happy and sad at the same time i was eagerly awaiting for the secret reveal hoping that i would get a full album with tremendous music like this anyway, thanks Flurin Marcus Quote
king ubu Posted March 29, 2005 Author Report Posted March 29, 2005 Finished the write ups here, too! Quote
brownie Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 2. Limehouse Blues (Braham-Furber) 3. Anything For You (Kander-Goldman) 4. I'm In the Mood For Love (Fields-McHugh) Morris & his Music feat. Coleman Hawkins Gustave "Gugu" Dupuis (t), Max Oberle (cl), Coleman Hawkins (ts), René Van Dyke (p), Roger Mazuit (b), Morris Einhorn (d,leader) Air shots from Club "Mac Mahon", Geneva (Switzerland), October 15, 1936. Released on CD1 of "Jazz in Switzerland 1930-1975" (Elite Special 4CD 9544002/1-4) Brillant, Majesty! Never heard of those sides which do not appear in the Hawkins discographies I checked. And I checked several! I was sure about Hawk but could not get any clue on where and when this was recorded. That BFT disc is one to keep! Quote
king ubu Posted March 29, 2005 Author Report Posted March 29, 2005 brownie, I'm glad to give you some you never heard! You do know I'm but a youngster trying to act big, so... B-) Quote
brownie Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 Majesty, I'm amazed at what you included in your BFT. No wonder I found so little! Is there more stuff like this on that 4CD Swiss jazz release or did you cream it for our benefit? Many thanks again for providing this really surprising compilation! Quote
indigo Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 Never heard of those sides which do not appear in the Hawkins discographies I checked. And I checked several! brownie, are any of these Hawk discographies online? Last year I spent hours searching and found nothing. Quote
king ubu Posted March 29, 2005 Author Report Posted March 29, 2005 Majesty, I'm amazed at what you included in your BFT. No wonder I found so little! Is there more stuff like this on that 4CD Swiss jazz release or did you cream it for our benefit? Many thanks again for providing this really surprising compilation! brownie, there would be enough fine stuff for another BFT, I guess, but I did try to collect the best. Though obviously for timing and variation reasons, some things had to be left off. Disc 1 has mostly old-time trad stuff (like #2-4, but no Hawk... not all bands are that bad, though), disc 2 enters hard-bop territory (but not many cuts are as good as the Ambrosetti and the Erwin Müller tracks), then discs 3 and 4 go beyond, some more hardbop, some "modern mainstream", some free, some jazz rock... pretty varied, all in all. Quote
EKE BBB Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 Never heard of those sides which do not appear in the Hawkins discographies I checked. And I checked several! brownie, are any of these Hawk discographies online? Last year I spent hours searching and found nothing. Same here! I´ve asked in various BB and searched a lot through the internet: nothing came out. In fact I was thinking about starting research on a Coleman Hawkins discography... Mike? Only joking: I´m afraid it would take many years of hard research. Quote
Д.Д. Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 So it's Vernon Lüdi! I've read quite a bit about him, but never heard him before this BFT - time to get some of his stuff (not that much available out there, unfortunately). So is that Koch or Lüdi soloing on track 13? Schweizer is also a suprise - and again, have been meaning to check out some of here works, but haven't done so yet. George Mraz - who could have thought?!! Quote
king ubu Posted March 29, 2005 Author Report Posted March 29, 2005 So it's Vernon Lüdi! I've read quite a bit about him, but never heard him before this BFT - time to get some of his stuff (not that much available out there, unfortunately). So is that Koch or Lüdi soloing on track 13? Schweizer is also a suprise - and again, have been meaning to check out some of here works, but haven't done so yet. George Mraz - who could have thought?!! well, not you, David... On #13: I really can't say! I don't have much else besides some half-albums I recorded from those radio shows, and Koch is not that familiar to me as a saxophone player (I usually consider him either a clarinetist or an all-reeds-man, and the later I usually find hard to recognize on a specific one of those reeds). I'll have to think about getting some Lüdi, too, maybe try to hunt some vinyl... Oh, and his first name is "Werner"! ubu Quote
mikeweil Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 Just read your completed answers parallel to my guesses - Again: excellent compilation! This makes me wonder I f I can keep that level on my second BFT ... Quote
king ubu Posted March 29, 2005 Author Report Posted March 29, 2005 Just read your completed answers parallel to my guesses - Again: excellent compilation! This makes me wonder I f I can keep that level on my second BFT ... If you do a disc with the theme "Jazz from Hessen", you'll beat me! Seriously: glad I got you all stumped on some of this music! And even happier you nevertheless enjoyed it and posted some thoughts! For me this has been a very interesting experience, and I'm certainly looking forward to my next BFT (though I won't be able to pull the same thing again, of course). ubu Quote
mikeweil Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 If you do a disc with the theme "Jazz from Hessen", you'll beat me! That's not quite what I have in mind ... Quote
king ubu Posted March 29, 2005 Author Report Posted March 29, 2005 If you do a disc with the theme "Jazz from Hessen", you'll beat me! That's not quite what I have in mind ... somehow I was afraid of that... Quote
RDK Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 Flurin - what a fascinating history lesson. Many thanks! Some truly fascinating stuff here, made the more interesting and desirable for being so rare. For once I don't feel so bad for missing so many of my "guesses." Quote
king ubu Posted March 29, 2005 Author Report Posted March 29, 2005 Flurin - what a fascinating history lesson. Many thanks! Some truly fascinating stuff here, made the more interesting and desirable for being so rare. For once I don't feel so bad for missing so many of my "guesses." glad you enjoyed it, Ray! Quote
brownie Posted March 30, 2005 Report Posted March 30, 2005 Never heard of those sides which do not appear in the Hawkins discographies I checked. And I checked several! brownie, are any of these Hawk discographies online? Last year I spent hours searching and found nothing. indigo, I could not find any worthy online Hawkins discography. I checked the regular discographies (Lord, Bruyninck). Quote
tooter Posted March 31, 2005 Report Posted March 31, 2005 Thanks for all the work, Flurin - a really enjoyable and interesting BFT disc. Quote
king ubu Posted March 31, 2005 Author Report Posted March 31, 2005 Thanks for all the work, Flurin - a really enjoyable and interesting BFT disc. Glad you enjoyed it, Rodney! Quote
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