jazzbo Posted August 2, 2005 Report Posted August 2, 2005 These PJ lps in this set are great! I've got them all. . . . That was why they chose the set, I had them all already! -_- Quote
JSngry Posted August 2, 2005 Report Posted August 2, 2005 I'm sure that most of y'all got this in the most recent Mosaic e-mail, but I thought I'd add it to this thread, because I think it's pretty relevant to understanding the music of The Crusaders (Jazz and otherwise). Quote "I visited New York in '63, intending to move there, but I noticed that what I valued about jazz was being discarded. I ran into `out-to-lunch' free jazz, and the notion that groove was old-fashioned. All around the United States, I could see jazz becoming linear, a horn-player's world. It made me realize that we were not jazz musicians; we were territory musicians in love with all forms of African-American music. All of the musicians I loved were territory musicians, deeply into blues and gospel as well as jazz. " - Joe Sample That, I think, is a highly cogent statement not easily dismissed. There will always be those who will fliply dismiss the bands "change of direction" as being motivated strictly by money, but it's not that simple. A cynic often sees the reality of a situation without always understanding the truth behind it... "Territory musicians", eh? I like the notion. A lot. Quote
tranemonk Posted August 3, 2005 Author Report Posted August 3, 2005 website tunes sound fantastic... I'm juiced to get this stuff (and I didn't get 3,000 hits or 500 homers... Quote
Kalo Posted August 3, 2005 Report Posted August 3, 2005 JSngry said: I'm sure that most of y'all got this in the most recent Mosaic e-mail, but I thought I'd add it to this thread, because I think it's pretty relevant to understanding the music of The Crusaders (Jazz and otherwise). Quote "I visited New York in '63, intending to move there, but I noticed that what I valued about jazz was being discarded. I ran into `out-to-lunch' free jazz, and the notion that groove was old-fashioned. All around the United States, I could see jazz becoming linear, a horn-player's world. It made me realize that we were not jazz musicians; we were territory musicians in love with all forms of African-American music. All of the musicians I loved were territory musicians, deeply into blues and gospel as well as jazz. " - Joe Sample That, I think, is a highly cogent statement not easily dismissed. There will always be those who will fliply dismiss the bands "change of direction" as being motivated strictly by money, but it's not that simple. A cynic often sees the reality of a situation without always understanding the truth behind it... "Territory musicians", eh? I like the notion. A lot. ← That quote caught my attention, too. Definitely food for thought. Quote
Brad Posted August 7, 2005 Report Posted August 7, 2005 I just listened to those Mosaic site cuts, never having listened to them before, and I was favorably impressed. I'll be getting this. Quote
Ron S Posted August 26, 2005 Report Posted August 26, 2005 Per the web site, release has been pushed back to "early September." Quote
sidewinder Posted August 26, 2005 Report Posted August 26, 2005 The new Mosaic catalogue arrived here today and the Jazz Crusaders set is heavily featured ( ). I was wondering about this set as I haven't had a Mosaic invoice letter yet for my pre-order, which I was assuming should have arrived if the set is in the new catalogue. Maybe I need to send them an email just in case my pre-order got lost in the wash. Looks like a really great set ! Quote
paul secor Posted August 29, 2005 Report Posted August 29, 2005 JSngry said: I'm sure that most of y'all got this in the most recent Mosaic e-mail, but I thought I'd add it to this thread, because I think it's pretty relevant to understanding the music of The Crusaders (Jazz and otherwise). Quote "I visited New York in '63, intending to move there, but I noticed that what I valued about jazz was being discarded. I ran into `out-to-lunch' free jazz, and the notion that groove was old-fashioned. All around the United States, I could see jazz becoming linear, a horn-player's world. It made me realize that we were not jazz musicians; we were territory musicians in love with all forms of African-American music. All of the musicians I loved were territory musicians, deeply into blues and gospel as well as jazz. " - Joe Sample That, I think, is a highly cogent statement not easily dismissed. There will always be those who will fliply dismiss the bands "change of direction" as being motivated strictly by money, but it's not that simple. A cynic often sees the reality of a situation without always understanding the truth behind it... "Territory musicians", eh? I like the notion. A lot. ← I guess that I'm one of those cynics. I always thought that their "territory" was the Billboard charts. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted August 29, 2005 Report Posted August 29, 2005 paul secor said: I guess that I'm one of those cynics. I always thought that their "territory" was the Billboard charts. ← Me too. Back in the day I checked out the lps as they were issued (listening booths folks) and never purchased a one. The guys could play but so could my college friends. Bought the 2 live cds cheap from BMG and won't bat an eye at the big box. Life is too short, music is too big, bread is too short, blah, blah, blah. Quote
Ron S Posted August 29, 2005 Report Posted August 29, 2005 JSngry said: Damn Yankees. Yeah, it's not very often you get a decent jazz group out of Texas. Quote
JSngry Posted August 29, 2005 Report Posted August 29, 2005 No, that's the problem - they usually get out of Texas. Quote
paul secor Posted August 29, 2005 Report Posted August 29, 2005 Ron S said: JSngry said: Damn Yankees. Yeah, it's not very often you get a decent jazz group out of Texas. ← Guess you've got to be there to appreciate them. Quote
rostasi Posted September 9, 2005 Report Posted September 9, 2005 Ed Swinnich said: Just received my shipping notice ← me too! Quote
Ron S Posted September 9, 2005 Report Posted September 9, 2005 I didn't! Oh wait, I haven't ordered this yet. Quote
Ed S Posted September 9, 2005 Report Posted September 9, 2005 Want to go in 50/50? I'll take the discs, box and booklet. You get the shipping material, free catalog and receipt. Quote
Ron S Posted September 9, 2005 Report Posted September 9, 2005 Just like that Basie Clef/Verve deal, huh? If I get both the Mosaic catalog AND the True Blue Catalog, I'm in. Quote
tranemonk Posted September 9, 2005 Author Report Posted September 9, 2005 Ron S said: I didn't! Oh wait, I haven't ordered this yet. ← And WHY NOT???? Waiting for the version on caiman???? Quote
rostasi Posted September 9, 2005 Report Posted September 9, 2005 Ron S said: I didn't! Oh wait, I haven't ordered this yet. ← You need to jump on this like a young rabbit! Quote
Ron S Posted September 9, 2005 Report Posted September 9, 2005 tranemonk said: Ron S said: I didn't! Oh wait, I haven't ordered this yet. ← And WHY NOT???? Waiting for the version on caiman???? ← The Caiman 60%-off deal on Mosaics only comes once in a lifetime. -_- Quote
Ron S Posted September 9, 2005 Report Posted September 9, 2005 rostasi said: Ron S said: I didn't! Oh wait, I haven't ordered this yet. ← You need to jump on this like a young rabbit! ← You mean like: Quote
tranemonk Posted September 12, 2005 Author Report Posted September 12, 2005 Jazz Crusaders box arrived... AM I the 1st????? WOO-HOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote
Dave James Posted September 12, 2005 Report Posted September 12, 2005 Those of us who straddled the fence on this one look forward to comprehensive reviews from those who didn't. Up over and out. Quote
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