JSngry Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Not at all. Keith's somewhat a favorite of mine. But a cheap joke's a cheap joke, so you gotta carpe diem! I've heard that Keith does not appreciate cheap jokes at his expense. Good! Maybe he can read that and have a hissy fit over me like he did over Marcus Miller in his notes here... Seriously, I love the cat, but...well...you know. And even more seriously, does anybody else think that the Friday night sets are the most organic? I mean, you can hear the stuff getting tighter and more telepathic with each set from each night, and on Friday, it just seems like BAM, it's all there. Adding McLaughlin on Saturday certainly didn't make it any worse, but now I'm wondering what the night would have been like if he hadn't been there & if the trend of the week continued. No matter - this is a great set! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 I agree, Friday seems to have it all. John does shake it up some on Saturday and there are some nice explorations and incredible moments! If he'd been there all week. . .w o w. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 (edited) Anyone know what Michael Henderson's been doing since 1975? Edited January 12, 2006 by medjuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Anyone know what Michael Henderson's been doing since 1975? There is this interview: http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=953 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Thanks. Was he really playing with Stevie Wonder when he was 13? And in 2003 he still looks like he's about 18 years old. Anyone here hear "Rebirth? " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Anyone here hear "Rebirth? " Yep. It's very nice, imo. Not the same (or as earthsahking) as Miles's stuff, but definitely "related to" it. Henderson, btw, had some success as a funk/disco/etc solo artist after he left Miles, The title cut of the Wide Receiver album to which the AAJ interview refers was an R&B hit. No crossover success, but a hit neverhteless. IIRC, Henderson was part of the Norman Connoirs crew that had a run of popular R&B sets at the time under various guises. But I'm not 100% sure of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 UK date on this now February 20th!!!! WTF????!!!!! That's good, it's my birthday. But Amazon UK are still telling me mid-March Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosco Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 IIRC, Henderson was part of the Norman Connoirs crew that had a run of popular R&B sets at the time under various guises. But I'm not 100% sure of that. Yes, indeed. Henderson played bass for Connors and even sang lead vocal on Connors' 'You Are my Starship' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 I finally got my copy and am starting to listen to it. Maybe I should listen to disc 2 first, just in case there is a problem. Anyway, I read through the thread (not that carefully) and maybe I missed it, but my booklet does indeed have the sticker that "corrects" the credits for the compilation on p. 94. Am I the only one?What a frigging waste of time to hold up this set just so someone's ego gets stroked a bit more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 Mine has the sticker as well. . . . I think they "all" do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tapscott Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 I checked both cduniverse.com and amazon.com hoping to listen to some samples. Nothing there. I know it's not the kind of set you can really "sample," but is there some site where I can hear a bit of this? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 I finally got my copy and am starting to listen to it. Maybe I should listen to disc 2 first, just in case there is a problem. Anyway, I read through the thread (not that carefully) and maybe I missed it, but my booklet does indeed have the sticker that "corrects" the credits for the compilation on p. 94. Am I the only one?What a frigging waste of time to hold up this set just so someone's ego gets stroked a bit more. My disc 2 is O.K.. And yes the sticker is there on p.94. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 My disc 2 is ok as well. There is something unusual going on on track 4, but I decided it was percussion, maybe brush work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 ...anyone want to volunteer to rip their sticker off to see what offensive language is underneath? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeith Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 I like the set more than the Jack Johnson set. Gary Bartz, and really everyone else, is one fire throughout. It is the leanest electric Miles I have heard, and the closest he got to a funk/rock band. Jarrett is particularly magnificent as well. Definitely ALOT more blues in his playing than he usually has. As much as I love the Jack Johnson set, I find it a bit hard to listen to for long period, unless you take out all the alternate takes. Its very easy to put on the Cellar Door for long periods. I also heard it on public radio last night while driving home from a christmas party. Interesting, as much as I like the Cellar Door box, I do not find it to be superior to the Jack Johnson box. These boxes are ripe for comparison, given similar instrumentation and personnel and even many of the same tunes, and as of now, I think certain versions of the same tune on the J Johnson box are actually superior to any version on the Cellar Door. Gary Bartz has never been for me the most compelling player. Just my two cents, I may change my mind but that's what I think now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 Jack Johnson vs Cellar Door is studio constructions (and all that implies) vs live sets (and all that implies). Apples & oranges, really, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 Yeah. . .apples and oranges. Though I prefer to bite into the Live/Evil apple a bit more than I do segments of the Jack Johnson orange myself. Gary Bartz. .. well this is my favorite Bartz stuff, and I really do like him as a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosco Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 (edited) ...anyone want to volunteer to rip their sticker off to see what offensive language is underneath? Just noticed this on Paul Tingen's Miles Beyond site (http://www.miles-beyond.com/news.htm)- Also received my promotional copy of the Cellar Door today, and the belowmentioned sticker can be found on page 94 of the booklet, where the word "produced" in the line "BOX SET PRODUCED BY ADAM HOLZMAN AND BOB BELDEN" has been replaced by "compiled." Yeah... well worth a five month delay. Edited January 14, 2006 by Rosco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcy62 Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 I bought it today. My copy has the corrected credit on the original page. Disc 2 is ok. Ah, btw, music smokes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 I've seen it in a store here yesterday, BUT still no trace of my Amazon France ordered set!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werf Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 (edited) Pitchfork gives the set a 9.4. http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-revie...ions-1970.shtml Edited January 18, 2006 by Werf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Kevin Whitehead reviews the box on NPR's Fresh Air today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Shit, Clem, I don't think I'm even that out-of-it! Great set, mine sounds brilliant. I'm probably not as well-versed in electric Miles as some of you here, but from what I have and considering the Cellar Door in personal context, this piece is a real staggering set. Still worthwhile to have both the Live-Evil LPs and the box, which is what's nice about these Legacy bricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 *finally* got a shipping confirmation from French Amazon two or three days ago. I hope to get it before the weekend! I'm sure it sucks. So Miles went to Pangaea and stayed there? Quite a trip, I must say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Clem, I thought FD was using "prog" as short for 'progressive', as in prog-rock or -jazz, in the bit you quote, but I could be wrong. In any case, the whole thing has a class-based snobbery about it that's quite obnoxious but otherwise empty and "untouched by the thought process" as Click & Clack say. I really thought the singers thing in the Atlantic was pretty good/not too bad/OK, but this one truly is a piece of shit...and just as wrongheaded and harmful to jazz as the anti-Parker piece refered to elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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