bertrand Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 'Teo, why the fuck are you having me do a Michael Jackson tune? The guy's a weirdo'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 I will buy that Cellar Door set the day it is released over here, no matter when that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 I will buy that Cellar Door set the day it is released over here, no matter when that is. What if it's in the middle of your vacation, and you have to come back rom Barbados to buy it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Preordering now possible through cduniverse.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Tracks: 1. Directions (J. Zawinul) 2. Yesternow (M. Davis) 3. What I Say 4. Improvisation #1 5. Inamorata (M. Davis) [Funky Tonk] 6. What I Say (M. Davis) 7. Honky Tonk 8. It's About That Time (M. Davis) 9. Improvisation #2 10. Inamorata (M. Davis [Funky Tonk]) 11. Sanctuary (W. Shorter/M. Davis) 12. Directions (J. Zawinul) 13. Honky Tonk (M. Davis) 14. What I Say / Sanctuary 15. Directions (J. Zawinul) 16. Honky Tonk (M. Davis) 17. What I Say (M. Davis) 18. Sanctuary (W. Shorter/M. Davis) 19. Improvisation #3 20. Inamorata 21. Directions (J. Zawinul) 22. Honky Tonk (M. Davis) 23. What I Say / Sanctuary 24. Directions (J. Zawinul) 25. Improvisation #4 26. Inamorata (M. Davis) [Funky Tonk] 27. Sanctuary (W. Shorter/M. Davis) 28. It's About That Time / Sanctuary Release date: September 27, 2005; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Preordering now possible through cduniverse.com ← $39 for six discs? That's as cheap as yourmusic.com. (and a no-brainer.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 (edited) Three questions: 1. Will this be copy-protected? 2. Why are they still listing Miles as co-author of 'Sanctuary'? I thought this was resolved years ago. 3. Which 4 of the 28 tracks are on the original Live-Evil, or were these tracks spliced together, so that the pieces are now re-assigned to where they belonged? Bertrand. Edited August 18, 2005 by bertrand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Same day as the Monk/Coltrane... and Bud Powell's b-day to boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 (edited) 3. Which 4 of the 28 tracks are on the original Live-Evil, or were these tracks spliced together, so that the pieces are now re-assigned to where they belonged? At least some of the tracks on Live Evil were victims of splicing. I can't remember the names but the disc 1, track 1 is a combination of "Directions" and "Honky Tonk". Disc 1, track 2 begins with a take of "Directions" that has the melody spliced out at each instance. Guy Edited August 18, 2005 by Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Breakdown by disc: Disc/Side 1 1. Directions 2. Yesternow 3. What I Say 4. Improvisation #1 5. Inamorata Disc/Side 2 1. What I Say 2. Honky Tonk 3. It's About That Time 4. Improvisation #2 5. Inamorata 6. Sanctuary Disc/Side 3 1. Directions 2. Honky Tonk 3. What I Say Disc/Side 4 1. Directions 2. Honky Tonk 3. What I Say 4. Sanctuary 5. Improvisation #3 6. Inamorata Disc/Side 5 1. Directions 2. Honky Tonk 3. What I Say Disc/Side 6 1. Directions 2. Improvisation #4 3. Inamorata 4. Sanctuary 5. It's About That Time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 (edited) Well, it's not over til it's over, but I hope the release date holds true this time. Been a long time since this! Edited August 18, 2005 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 (edited) Bertrand, I've never taken the time to totally work out the provenance of all the tracks on Live/Evil (but look below for analysis) . . . MOST if not all of them come from THIS night: Directions (J. Zawinul) 14:44 Honky Tonk (M. Davis) 21:12 What I Say (M. Davis) 20:53 Sanctuary (W. Shorter-M. Davis) 0:40 Directions (J. Zawinul) 18:39 Funky Tonk (M. Davis) 23:56 Sanctuary (W. Shorter-M. Davis) 2:02 It's About That Time (M. Davis) 6:42 Sanctuary (W. Shorter-M. Davis) 1:18 (two sets recorded of three that night) Miles Davis (tpt); Gary Bartz (ss, as); Keith Jarrett (el-p, org); John McLaughlin (g); Michael Henderson (el-b); Jack DeJohnette (d); Airto Moreira (perc, voc); Conrad Roberts (narr) Here is the information on Live/Evil track breakdowns on Pete Losin's "Miles Ahead" website: In an interview with Teo Macero, Chris Albertson describes the 87 minutes of live material on Live-Evil as a "distillation" of "ten to fifteen" reels of tape recorded during the group's performances at the Cellar Door ("The Unmasking of Miles Davis," Saturday Review, November 27, 1971, p. 87.). Here's a rough comparison of the issued material with the unedited masters: "Sivad" (15:12) Master 0:00-0:01 (drum roll) Directions (2nd set) 0:00-0:01 0:02-3:24 Directions (2nd set) 11:30-14:44 + Honky Tonk 0:00-0:08 3:25-4:14 Honky Tonk (studio, 5/19/70) 4:15-9:11 Honky Tonk (2nd set) 5:23-10:20 9:12-15:12 Honky Tonk (2nd set) 15:13-21:14 "What I Say" (21:09) Master 0:00-20:50 What I Say (2nd set) 0:00-20:50 20:51-21:09 Sanctuary (2nd set) 0:00-0:18 "Funky Tonk" (23:23) Master 0:00-2:54 Directions (3rd set) 0:47-3:41 (theme excised) 2:55-4:53 Directions (3rd set) 3:54-5:51 (theme excised) 4:54-16:14 Directions (3rd set) 6:20-17:39 (theme excised) 16:15-16:50 Directions (3rd set) 18:03-18:39 16:51-20:12 Funky Tonk (3rd set) 0:00-3:21 20:13-20:18 Funky Tonk (3rd set) 3:59-4:04 21:19-23:23 Funky Tonk (3rd set) 4:15-6:20 "Inamorata" (26:28) Master 0:00-16:34 Funky Tonk (3rd set) 7:21-23:55 16:35-16:47 Sanctuary (3rd set) 1:50-2:02 16:47-23:08 It's About That Time (3rd set) 0:00-6:21 23:09-26:08 It's About That Time 0:00-2:59 [see note] Narration by Conrad Roberts first 0:43 26:08-26:28 Sanctuary 0:00-0:20 [see note] Note: these items not from Cellar Door Edited August 18, 2005 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 More info from http://www.plosin.com/milesAhead/Sessions.aspx?s=701219 December 19, 1970 (10 items; TT = 110:46) Cellar Door Club, Washington DC Commercial for Columbia Miles Davis Septet Miles Davis (tpt); Gary Bartz (ss, as); Keith Jarrett (el-p, org); John McLaughlin (g); Michael Henderson (el-b); Jack DeJohnette (d); Airto Moreira (perc, voc); Conrad Roberts (narr) Second set Directions (J. Zawinul) 14:44 Theme stated at 2:59. Two fragments (0:01 + 3:14) on G 30954 and equivalents. Honky Tonk (M. Davis) 21:14 Three fragments (0:08 + 4:56 + 6:00) on G 30954 and equivalents. What I Say (M. Davis) 20:50 Sanctuary (W. Shorter-M. Davis) (closing theme, applause) 0:39 Incomplete (0:18) on G 30954 and equivalents. Third set Directions (J. Zawinul) 18:40 Theme stated at 3:40, 5:56, 17:39. Four fragments (2:54 + 1:58 + 11:20 + 0:35) on G 30954 and equivalents. Funky Tonk (M. Davis) 23:56 Four fragments (3:22 + 0:05 + 2:04 + 16:34) on G 30954 and equivalents. Sanctuary (W. Shorter-M. Davis) 2:02 Fragment (0:12) on G 30954 and equivalents. It's About That Time (M. Davis) 6:41 Incomplete (6:21) on G 30954 and equivalents. Sanctuary (W. Shorter-M. Davis) (closing theme, applause) 1:17 Overdub Narration by Conrad Roberts (C. Roberts) 0:43 "Inamorata, mission: music, masculinity, master of the art... music. Who is this music that which description may never justify? Can the ocean be described? Fathomless music, body of all that is, live everlastingly... Man initiate inamorata, your music are tomorrow's unknown known life. I love tomorrow..." Directions 12" LP: Columbia G 30954, Columbia C5K 45000, CBS/Sony SONP 50452/3 (= 36AP 1773/4) CD: Columbia C4K 45000 (= C4K 86569), Columbia C2K 65135, Columbia C2S 65135, Columbia C6K 93614, CBS/Sony 50DP 707/8 (= Sony SRCS 5715/6), CBS/Sony 80DP 5430/3 (= Sony SICP 5037/40), Sony Mastersound SRCS 9123/4, Sony Mastersound SRCS 9739/40, Sony SIGP 24/5, Sony SICP 839, Sony SICP 910, Sellar Productions Sell 1/2 Honky Tonk 12" LP: Columbia G 30954, CBS/Sony SONP 50452/3 (= 36AP 1773/4) CD: Columbia C2K 65135, Columbia C2S 65135, Columbia C6K 93614, CBS/Sony 50DP 707/8 (= Sony SRCS 5715/6), Sony Mastersound SRCS 9123/4, Sony Mastersound SRCS 9739/40, Sony SIGP 24/5, Sony SICP 839, Sony SICP 910, Sellar Productions Sell 1/2 What I Say 12" LP: Columbia G 30954, CBS/Sony SONP 50452/3 (= 36AP 1773/4) CD: Columbia C2K 65135, Columbia C2S 65135, Columbia C6K 93614, CBS/Sony 50DP 707/8 (= Sony SRCS 5715/6), Sony Mastersound SRCS 9123/4, Sony Mastersound SRCS 9739/40, Sony SIGP 24/5, Sony SICP 839, Sony SICP 910, Sellar Productions Sell 1/2 Sanctuary (closing theme, applause) 12" LP: Columbia G 30954, CBS/Sony SONP 50452/3 (= 36AP 1773/4) CD: Columbia C2K 65135, Columbia C2S 65135, Columbia C6K 93614, CBS/Sony 50DP 707/8 (= Sony SRCS 5715/6), Sony Mastersound SRCS 9123/4, Sony Mastersound SRCS 9739/40, Sony SIGP 24/5, Sony SICP 839, Sony SICP 910, Sellar Productions Sell 1/2 Directions 12" LP: Columbia G 30954, CBS/Sony SONP 50452/3 (= 36AP 1773/4) CD: Columbia C2K 65135, Columbia C2S 65135, Columbia C6K 93614, CBS/Sony 50DP 707/8 (= Sony SRCS 5715/6), Sony Mastersound SRCS 9123/4, Sony Mastersound SRCS 9739/40, Sony SIGP 24/5, Sony SICP 839, Sony SICP 910, Sellar Productions Sell 1/2 Funky Tonk 12" LP: Columbia G 30954, CBS/Sony SONP 50452/3 (= 36AP 1773/4) CD: Columbia C2K 65135, Columbia C2S 65135, Columbia C6K 93614, CBS/Sony 50DP 707/8 (= Sony SRCS 5715/6), Sony Mastersound SRCS 9123/4, Sony Mastersound SRCS 9739/40, Sony SIGP 24/5, Sony SICP 839, Sony SICP 910, Sellar Productions Sell 1/2 Sanctuary 12" LP: Columbia G 30954, CBS/Sony SONP 50452/3 (= 36AP 1773/4) CD: Columbia C2K 65135, Columbia C2S 65135, Columbia C6K 93614, CBS/Sony 50DP 707/8 (= Sony SRCS 5715/6), Sony Mastersound SRCS 9123/4, Sony Mastersound SRCS 9739/40, Sony SIGP 24/5, Sony SICP 839, Sony SICP 910, Sellar Productions Sell 1/2 It's About That Time 12" LP: Columbia G 30954, CBS/Sony SONP 50452/3 (= 36AP 1773/4) CD: Columbia C2K 65135, Columbia C2S 65135, Columbia C6K 93614, CBS/Sony 50DP 707/8 (= Sony SRCS 5715/6), Sony Mastersound SRCS 9123/4, Sony Mastersound SRCS 9739/40, Sony SIGP 24/5, Sony SICP 839, Sony SICP 910, Sellar Productions Sell 1/2 Sanctuary (closing theme, applause) CD: Columbia C6K 93614, Sony SICP 910, Sellar Productions Sell 1/2 Narration by Conrad Roberts 12" LP: Columbia G 30954, CBS/Sony SONP 50452/3 (= 36AP 1773/4) CD: Columbia C2K 65135, Columbia C2S 65135, Columbia C6K 93614, CBS/Sony 50DP 707/8 (= Sony SRCS 5715/6), Sony Mastersound SRCS 9123/4, Sony Mastersound SRCS 9739/40, Sony SIGP 24/5, Sony SICP 839, Sony SICP 910 The Sextet seems to have performed three sets per night during this engagement, so there may be a recording of the first set. These two sets, however, seem to be complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD45 Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Man, this better not be copy-protected... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Copy control? They couldn't even keep their "work product" in house! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILLYQ Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Thanks for the info, I preordered today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 I put it in my Wish List. Do you think they will send me a reminder when the release date gets closer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILLYQ Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 I put it in my Wish List. Do you think they will send me a reminder when the release date gets closer? ← BFrank, According to the CD Universe website, when you preorder they don't charge your credit card until they ship, so you're not out the money for a month and change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 According to the CD Universe website, when you preorder they don't charge your credit card until they ship, so you're not out the money for a month and change. ← Having preordered many a time I can tell you that this is true. Waiting for the Monk-Coltrane to go up as well before going into a preordering frenzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Man, this better not be copy-protected... ← Oh, you know it will be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 According to the CD Universe website, when you preorder they don't charge your credit card until they ship, so you're not out the money for a month and change. ← Having preordered many a time I can tell you that this is true. Waiting for the Monk-Coltrane to go up as well before going into a preordering frenzy. ← My thoughts exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 I put it in my Wish List. Do you think they will send me a reminder when the release date gets closer? ← BFrank, According to the CD Universe website, when you preorder they don't charge your credit card until they ship, so you're not out the money for a month and change. ← OK........that sounds good. I'll probably go ahead and do the "pre". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 CD Universe also lets you cancel the order until one day (?) before shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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billyboy Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 This thing is 109.98 at Amazon. Which price is correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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