7/4 Posted May 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Robert is performing soundscapes in the US on the following dates. An * denotes a show where he is opening for the Porcupine Tree. I'm glad to see this. Adrian Belew also guested on PT's new release, Deadwing. Seems to be a bit of mutual respect that has formed between the two groups. Porcupine Tree is my favorite contemporary rock group, and I've babbled about them in the Viva Prog Rock thread a bit. They're originally a Steve Wilson solo project, in a psych/prog vein, that evolved into a real group, with Richard Barbieri (former Japan keyboardist) on board as well. Well worth the effort to check them out! Sorry for the hijack, back to the Fripp stuff. Percy Jones and Tunnels is opening some east coast gigs. What does PT sound like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny E Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Anybody know where I can a get a hold of the video footage of Crimson at the Beat Club circa 1973? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted May 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Anybody know where I can a get a hold of the video footage of Crimson at the Beat Club circa 1973? Not me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 (edited) I've always dug him more as a sideman/collaborator with Eno, Bowie, etc, than as a creative leader on his own. Still, I would have to agree that he is strikingly original as a guitarist. I could never get into any of the incarnations of Crimson back in college, when I was still interested in trying. And prog-rock as a genre leaves me cold. I liked Exposure at the time, but eventually sold it. Edited May 18, 2005 by Kalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 (edited) The only one I have is #20, Live at the Zoom Club, Oct. 13, 1972. I went through a big Crimson phase late in college and own probably 5-10 of these things. Some of them are good, others not so great. (Like the pointless Vroom sessions.) In retrospect I could ditch most of them. Out of the official live recordings I own, I like Epitaph the best. My favorite studio albums are Discipline and Three of a Perfect Pair. Don't ask me what I think the Construkction of Kcrap. One last KC bit: Projekct 4 in SF back in 1998 was one of the best concerts I've ever been to. Guy Edited May 18, 2005 by Guy Berger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny E Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Try giving 'Larks Tongues in Aspic' another try. I did recently (I was feeling the same way as you btw) and I was blown away. Jamie Muir on percussion! Long improve sections. Sweeping dynamics, driving rock meets introspective jazz meets tender ballads. It's a fine record - as well as 'Red' and 'Starless and Bible Black'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Try giving 'Larks Tongues in Aspic' another try. I did recently (I was feeling the same way as you btw) and I was blown away. I think my brain exploded a little the first time I heard Fripp come in with those power chords. In a good way of course. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny E Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Try giving 'Larks Tongues in Aspic' another try. I did recently (I was feeling the same way as you btw) and I was blown away. I think my brain exploded a little the first time I heard Fripp come in with those power chords. In a good way of course. Guy I know what you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 (edited) Robert is performing soundscapes in the US on the following dates. An * denotes a show where he is opening for the Porcupine Tree. I'm glad to see this. Adrian Belew also guested on PT's new release, Deadwing. Seems to be a bit of mutual respect that has formed between the two groups. Porcupine Tree is my favorite contemporary rock group, and I've babbled about them in the Viva Prog Rock thread a bit. They're originally a Steve Wilson solo project, in a psych/prog vein, that evolved into a real group, with Richard Barbieri (former Japan keyboardist) on board as well. Well worth the effort to check them out! Sorry for the hijack, back to the Fripp stuff. Percy Jones and Tunnels is opening some east coast gigs. What does PT sound like? I'm not familiar with Percy Jones/Tunnels. I'd highly recommend going to a Porcupine Tree show if you're able to though!! Every album they've put out has been a progression from the last. They definitely haven't sat still, or become stuck in a particular rut. These guys are an album-based band, like King Crimson, Radiohead, and others. Their two most recent albums, In Absentia and Deadwing (both on Lava/Warners), find them with a harder, more aggressive sound...shades of Tool perhaps? Steve Wilson (the writer/guitarist/singer) recently produced an Opeth album, so I think that has influenced his direction a bit recently. The early PT albums were almost psychedelic in style, and were basically Wilson solo albums. As he brought in sidemen and fleshed the band out, he went through a trance (Voyage 34) and Pink Floyd period (Sky Moves Sideways), with songs that stretched out to 20+ minutes. After that, the band became more song focused, and gradually got heavier and the songs got shorted, all the while keeping their strong sense of melody and vocal harmonics igoing. My favorite album of theirs is still Lightbulb Sun, which I believe came out in '02. The two most recent albums are the easiest to find, but the older ones have pretty much all been remastered and re-released with bonus tracks and goodies, and are available from most online sources. Edited May 18, 2005 by Aggie87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 (edited) Johnny E Posted on May 17 2005, 08:39 PM Try giving 'Larks Tongues in Aspic' another try. I did recently (I was feeling the same way as you btw) and I was blown away. Jamie Muir on percussion! Long improve sections. Sweeping dynamics, driving rock meets introspective jazz meets tender ballads. It's a fine record - as well as 'Red' and 'Starless and Bible Black'. These are, indeed, the albums most mentioned as justifying Crimson. I'll give them a try when I get the chance. Edited May 18, 2005 by Kalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 I like his work on Eno's Here Come the Warm Jets. Come to think of it, I believe he appears on Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy and Another Green World as well. And doesn't he play on Bowie's Heroes album too? So it would be fair to say that Fripp appears as a sideman on some of the best (rock) albums of the 70's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 I like his work on Eno's Here Come the Warm Jets. Come to think of it, I believe he appears on Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy and Another Green World as well.← Phil Collins is on AGW as well. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Don't remind me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Don't remind me. ← He does a good job, unsurprisingly. Just imagine that the real Phil Collins was abducted by aliens or permanently relocated to the Himalayas sometime between 1978 and 1981. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Don't remind me. ← He does a good job, unsurprisingly. Just imagine that the real Phil Collins was abducted by aliens or permanently relocated to the Himalayas sometime between 1978 and 1981. Guy ← Hey, purely as a musician, I've got no problem with the guy... Just don't ask me to buy any of his albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted May 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 It was good when he didn't sing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 It was good when he didn't sing. ← I'll go on a limb here and say it was pretty good even when he sang through 1981. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted May 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 (edited) It was good when he didn't sing. ← I'll go on a limb here and say it was pretty good even when he sang through 1981. Guy ← Where's my saw? Genesis went down hill after Steve Hackett left. I'd say And Then There Were Three was the last good one. PC was good for Brand X. Edited May 20, 2005 by 7/4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted May 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 I zipped through this recently. Pretty interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregK Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 I zipped through this recently. Pretty interesting. ← yep. Good read, not too gushing as some of these types of books are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregK Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 Try giving 'Larks Tongues in Aspic' another try. I did recently (I was feeling the same way as you btw) and I was blown away. Jamie Muir on percussion! Long improve sections. Sweeping dynamics, driving rock meets introspective jazz meets tender ballads. It's a fine record - as well as 'Red' and 'Starless and Bible Black'. ← wow!!! a post from Johnny E that I can completely agree with!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted May 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Download Eric Tamms Fripp book! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted May 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2005 Fripp interviews Mahavishnu John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alankin Posted May 28, 2005 Report Share Posted May 28, 2005 I still remember an excellent Frippertronics concert I saw. (Probably in 1981. 2nd floor of Houston Hall at Penn?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alankin Posted May 28, 2005 Report Share Posted May 28, 2005 Robert Fripp — Solo Soundscapes: Words and Music — World Cafe Live, 3025 Walnut St, Philadelphia June 17 (Fri) — 10:30 pm — $33 advance / $38 door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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