Guest che Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 Now there is a radio station in the UK, as a build uo to Oscar night, that had a vote to see what the best film was that did not win as Oscar. So what would your choice be, and rather than just make this a list, say a few words about why you would choose this? Che Quote
sal Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 Assuming were talking only about the "Best Picture" Oscar, I would nominate the Scorsese classics "Taxi Driver", "Raging Bull", and "Goodfellas". Stanley Kubrick made a trio of amazing films with "Dr. Strangelove", "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "A Clockwork Orange", none which won anything. And 1994 produced "The Shawshank Redemption" and "Pulp Fiction", two of the best films of the 1990s. I think both were far superior to that year's winner "Forrest Gump". Quote
Guest che Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 Assuming were talking only about the "Best Picture" Oscar, I would nominate the Scorsese classics "Taxi Driver", "Raging Bull", and "Goodfellas". Stanley Kubrick made a trio of amazing films with "Dr. Strangelove", "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "A Clockwork Orange", none which won anything. And 1994 produced "The Shawshank Redemption" and "Pulp Fiction", two of the best films of the 1990s. I think both were far superior to that year's winner "Forrest Gump". Sorry yes The Best Oscar picture, and a good start. Che. Quote
Guest che Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 Assuming were talking only about the "Best Picture" Oscar, I would nominate the Scorsese classics "Taxi Driver", "Raging Bull", and "Goodfellas". Stanley Kubrick made a trio of amazing films with "Dr. Strangelove", "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "A Clockwork Orange", none which won anything. And 1994 produced "The Shawshank Redemption" and "Pulp Fiction", two of the best films of the 1990s. I think both were far superior to that year's winner "Forrest Gump". But if you had to go with one of these, which would you choose and why? Che. Quote
Elissa Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 Streetcar Named Desire. Brando simply genius here: consummate poetry and violence, hand in hand. Quote
BruceH Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 The Maltese Falcon Chinatown The Third Man The Sweet Smell of Success Bob le Flambeur (should have won best foreign film) King of Comedy (Marty's best IMHO) Wait a minute, Chinatown didn't win Best Picture did it? I don't think so...I should look it up. Some more-- The Iron Giant Pleasantville Don't have time to say why. Just take my word for it. Quote
BruceH Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 And 1994 produced "The Shawshank Redemption" and "Pulp Fiction", two of the best films of the 1990s. I think both were far superior to that year's winner "Forrest Gump". That's for DAMN sure!! Quote
Guest che Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 And 1994 produced "The Shawshank Redemption" and "Pulp Fiction", two of the best films of the 1990s. I think both were far superior to that year's winner "Forrest Gump". That's for DAMN sure!! In the pole I mentioned there was a great deal of support for the 'Shawshank Redemption' why is this? Che. Quote
sal Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 But if you had to go with one of these, which would you choose and why? Tough question..... I'd have to say "Raging Bull". Has there ever been such a perfect combination of brilliant direction, flawless acting, deep thematic development, cinematography, sound, dialogue, editing, , and most of all.....raw emotional intensity, in a non-Best Picture Oscar winning American film before? Quote
sal Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 (edited) And if you throw foreign films into the mix, then you have a whole different playing field.....but its somewhat unfair to do this since the focus of the Oscars is on American films. Edited February 28, 2005 by sal Quote
Guest che Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 But if you had to go with one of these, which would you choose and why? Tough question..... I'd have to say "Raging Bull". Has there ever been such a perfect combination of brilliant direction, flawless acting, deep thematic development, cinematography, sound, dialogue, editing, , and most of all.....raw emotional intensity, in a non-Best Picture Oscar winning American film before? Yep. I would agree that this is a great film, a great and intense character study and would be in my top three ( I will tell you the top two later ) Do you know what the Best Oscar film was the year Raging Bull was considered? Che? Quote
Guest ariceffron Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 THE BEST FILM IN THE ROMANCE/DRAMA GENRE IS 'TORRENT' FEATURING GRETA GARBO, 1926 FOR MGM. IVE SEEN 100'S OF MOVIES IN THE GENRE AND THEY ALL GO DOWNHILL AFTER THAT,-- DESPITE SUCH LEADING LADIES AS AUDREY HEPBURN, OR EVEN JULIEANNE MOORE HERSELF-- NO FILMS HAVE RECAPTURED THAT MAGIC Quote
Guest che Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 And if you throw foreign films into the mix, then you have a whole different playing field..... Good point. Of course there is an Oscar from Best Foreign Film, I wonder how many people actually watch foreign films ( or maybe films in a foreign language?). What was the Best Foreign Film at this years Oscars? Che. Quote
sal Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 Do you know what the Best Oscar film was the year Raging Bull was considered? Robert Redford's "Ordinary People". A very good film, but it sure ain't no "Raging Bull"! Quote
Adam Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 (edited) The Maltese Falcon Chinatown The Third Man The Sweet Smell of Success Bob le Flambeur (should have won best foreign film) King of Comedy (Marty's best IMHO) Wait a minute, Chinatown didn't win Best Picture did it? I don't think so...I should look it up. Some more-- The Iron Giant Pleasantville Don't have time to say why. Just take my word for it. Chinatown didn't win because the Godfather Part 2 won it that year. Tough year, eh? Edited February 28, 2005 by Adam Quote
sal Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 Chinatwon didn't win because the Godfather Part 2 won it that year. Tough year, eh? Wasn't Coppola's "The Conversation" in the running that year as well? Damn, he was going through quite the creative peak in those years. Quote
Adam Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 Oh, best picture not to win best picture? Citizen Kane, perhaps? Vertigo Rear Window Singin in the Rain If... Bonnie and Clyde Days of Heaven Raging Bull The Conversation Sunrise (although it did win a special award for artistic achievement) Sunset Blvd Nashville and many more As for Foreign film, it woudl be more appropriate to ask what years did the best one win? And given the Academy's nomination system, by country (last night The Sea Inside was Spain's 6th Best Foreign Film oscar, like the whole country made the film), there would be no way to evaluate. Quote
Adam Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 Chinatwon didn't win because the Godfather Part 2 won it that year. Tough year, eh? Wasn't Coppola's "The Conversation" in the running that year as well? Damn, he was going through quite the creative peak in those years. yes. The nominees in 74 were Gofather part 2, Chinatown, The Conversation, Lenny, and the Towering Inferno. In 1967, In the Heat of the Night beat out Bonnie and Clyde, Doctor Doolittle, The Graduate, and Guess Who's Coming to Dinner. Back in the late 30s there were 10 nominees each year. In 1939 Gone with the Wind beat out (among others) Ninotchka, The Wizard of Oz, Wuthering Heights, Goodbye Mr Chips, and Mr. Smoth Goes to Washington. In 1940 Rebecca beat out The Philadelphia Story, The Grapes of Wrath, and others In 1941 How Green Was My Valley beat out Citizen Kane, The Maltese Falcom, and Suspicion among others. Some good movies being made, eh? Quote
minew Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 A second for the nomination of Goodfellas. Maybe it wasn't the best film not to win an Oscar but the fact that it lost to "Dances with Wolves" is just appalling. Beyond appalling, almost comic, is that Kevin Costner won Best Director for "Dances" over Scorsese for "Goodfellas". Mulholland Drive, which should have also been recognized for screeplay, direction (Lynch), and acting (Watts) was also snubbed. Too weird, I guess. Also, in typical Oscar fashion, Charlie Kaufmann was recognized for his third best film this year after his best two (Malkovich, Adaptation) were passed over. Quote
ejp626 Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 I guess it depends on your perspective. I liked Malkovitch, didn't like Adaptation, and really enjoyed Sunshine. So for me, Sunshine is really the best. The other two are a bit too smug almost in their -- hey look how weird I can be -- cleverness. Sunshine married the cleverness to a more genuine emotional core (and that's what often drives Oscar voters - that they can care about the characters) so is a better movie in those terms. Feel free to disagree with me though. Quote
Dave James Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 Without a doubt, Chinatown. Not to denigrate GFII, that rare occurance when a sequel is perhaps better than the original, but I happen to think Chinatown is a nearly perfect movie. My all time favorite. Great writing, casting, acting and directing, with the flawlessly rendered look and feel of late '30's Los Angeles and perhaps the best genre capturing title tune ever courtesy of Jerry Goldsmith. Jack Nicholson at the pinnacle of his considerable creative powers. Up over and out. Quote
Guest che Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 Without a doubt, Chinatown. Not to denigrate GFII, that rare occurance when a sequel is perhaps better than the original, but I happen to think Chinatown is a nearly perfect movie. My all time favorite. Great writing, casting, acting and directing, with the flawlessly rendered look and feel of late '30's Los Angeles and perhaps the best genre capturing title tune ever courtesy of Jerry Goldsmith. Jack Nicholson at the pinnacle of his considerable creative powers. Up over and out. I never liked Chinatown, I much preferred the 'Wizard Of Oz' Che. Quote
Guest Chaney Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 Here are the nominees for best picture, 1976 - the last year that I watched the Academy Awards: "ROCKY", "All the President's Men", "Bound for Glory", "Network", "Taxi Driver." Aside from the travesty of Rocky winning for best picture, the then recently departed Finch won for best actor in Network. Excellent performance by Finch but or me, Taxi Driver, and the performance of DeNiro as Travis Bickel = Quote
Guest che Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 Here are the nominees for best picture, 1976 - the last year that I watched the Academy Awards: "ROCKY", "All the President's Men", "Bound for Glory", "Network", "Taxi Driver." Aside from the travesty of Rocky winning for best picture, the then recently departed Finch won for best actor in Network. Excellent performance by Finch but or me, Taxi Driver, and the performance of DeNiro as Travis Bickel = Well I have copy of 'All the Presidents Men' on DVD, and this was a far better film that 'Rocky'. Top 10 for me. Che. Quote
GA Russell Posted February 28, 2005 Report Posted February 28, 2005 My favorite movies are The Third Man and Lover Come Back. Since neither won the Oscar, I would go with them. I've never taken the Oscars seriously. Too much politics and sentiment. Quote
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