baryshnikov Posted February 5, 2005 Report Posted February 5, 2005 jUST LISTENING TO dUSK fIRE, WHAT A SUPERB LP, REALLY HAUNTING, ANYONE NOT AWARE OF THIS SHOULD PICK IT ON CD, DOUBLE CD WITH SHADES oF bLUE, THE BEST RELEASE LAST YEAR IN MY OPINION, tANSAM fU REALLY KICKS IN A KIND OF ESOTERIC WAY? EBAY AT MOMENT GOING FOR £350, REALLY DONT MISS THIS ONE, PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT LP IN bRITISH MODERN JAZZ, IMO? Quote
baryshnikov Posted February 16, 2006 Author Report Posted February 16, 2006 Album sold for £1200, crazy. On EBay, paul Quote
king ubu Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 oh HELLYEAH! That double disc reissue is terrific! Great music! Anyone have a large nice scan of "Shades of Blue"? What a great cover! And a perfect match for the music, too... Quote
king ubu Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 so wouldn't it be nice to have a large scan of the left cover? Quote
king ubu Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 She was Carr's bird, back then, I think (the liners mention it). Plenty of period charm... yet still great music. And I'd not dare using that word, "bird", weren't it for the period charm... Quote
sidewinder Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 She was Carr's bird, back then, I think (the liners mention it). Plenty of period charm... yet still great music. And I'd not dare using that word, "bird", weren't it for the period charm... My understanding (and I hope I'm correct) is that the cover on 'Shades of Blue' is of Ian Carr's late wife, who died very young and only a year or so after this session (there's details of this in the notes to the CD). What a shame.. Quote
king ubu Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 Oh, sorry to hear that! I haven't really read the liners, just skimmed through them very quickly. The music *is* recommended, for sure, though! But it's pointless to tell that to you englishmen, I guess... Quote
sidewinder Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 Totally agree with you Ubu that these Rendell/Carr reissues are fantastic - good value, superb music and fine remastered sound quality. The one session that seems to get 'dissed' quite a bit (usually because Guy Warren of Ghana is on half of the tracks) is 'Change Is' and in many ways I think of this one as their finest hour, going out at a peak (although Ian Carr has expressed quite a bit of disappointment in print with this session in the 'Music Outside' book, well worth a read). The original Lansdowne LPs are hard to find but I have a couple of them - 'Change Is' and 'Live'. Although the CDs are excellent, there's still a certain magic about the original LP sound. Quote
Guest akanalog Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 "change is" gets dissed? i like it. did people not like the use of harpsichord too? i am always curious how you british dudes look at these british drummers since i have no background besides my own listening. john marshall, john webb, tony levin, clive thacker, trevor tomkins, bryan spring, roger sellers (or is sutton)....all have good things to offer, in my opinion. Quote
Guest akanalog Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 i guess what i am asking is-who was the man, to you guys? i didn't even mention john stevens, but he is a bit more hit and miss to me, though still a great drummer. his stuff with amalgam is awesome! Quote
sidewinder Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 All of the drummers you mentioned have great reputations, although they are in general very much under-valued in their homeland. I'm a particular fan of John Marshall, who has also been doing great live performances in the past year or so (saw him with John Surman about a year ago). Phil Seamen of course has the 'legendary great' status amongst jazzers, although the general public remain ignorant of him. Quote
Head Man Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 All of the drummers you mentioned have great reputations, although they are in general very much under-valued in their homeland. I'm a particular fan of John Marshall, who has also been doing great live performances in the past year or so (saw him with John Surman about a year ago). Phil Seamen of course has the 'legendary great' status amongst jazzers, although the general public remain ignorant of him. Don't forget Alan Jackson who played with everyone on the London jazz scene in the 1960s - John Surman, Mike Westbrook, Mike Osborne etc etc. He's not very well represented on record but you can hear him at his best on two Howard Riley CDs that were re-released on Sony about five years ago: 'The day will come' and ' and 'Angle'. Both are still available and are well worth buying. Quote
sidewinder Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 (edited) Alan Jackson is still active on the London scene. Saw him last year as part of Matthew Herbert's Big Band. Love his early work in particular, with Westbrook and Surman. Edited February 17, 2006 by sidewinder Quote
Alexander Hawkins Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 Stan Tracey's son Clark is a really nice player. Tony Oxley is the boss. We're well off for freer percussionists - Mark Sanders, Roger Turner, etc. One of the finest straight ahead players in the country, IMHO (as ever), is Dave Wickens. Awesomely creative, swings like a monster, and extremely subtle to boot. Quote
Guest akanalog Posted February 17, 2006 Report Posted February 17, 2006 i really like alan jackson. sorry i forgot to mention him! he had (has?) a very original tom sound, IMO. Quote
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