scottb Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 Most say for local delivery or pick up only anyway. I was just wondering. Quote
Soul Stream Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 (edited) Hate to interrupt, but your purchase got me looking a little. I don't play keyboard instruments at all and I don't plan on learning since I already play guitar, any free time will be devoted there. However, if I could find a deal like you found, I might consider getting it in an effort to persuade my nephews and perhaps my daughters into playing the organ. My nephew's take some piano lesson now and if I could derail him to the B3, I think I would have accomplished something in my life. What other models are worth getting? B3, C3, BV, J112, A100, M100, L102? I've seen several organs on Ebay for what seems to be a steal. scott, ebay is outrageous price-wise. chances are you will come across a b3, c3 or a100 in your local classified ads if you just keep an eye out. b3's are the most valuable, followed closely by the C3 and lastly by the A100 (usually 1/3 to 1/2 of the price of an b3 or c3) if you keep an eye out, you can find a deal if your lucky. i got a beautiful a100 for 500 bucks out of the paper a few years back. mint shape, 1 owner. if you don't get lucky, a b3 or c3 WITH a 122 or 147 leslie should run you a 2 to 4 grand locally. those are complete ballpark figures for texas, northeast or west coast may run considerably higher, don't know. midwest should be cheaper i'd guess. Be sure whatever you buy comes with a 122 or 147 or one of their shorter or older brothers (145 or 21h something like that. Hammond Tone cabinets are worthless basically, don't let them tell you it's good enough, it ain't). Otherwise, it's HARD to find just a leslie by itself. And it's usually expensive as hell that way. But don't be fooled. My first b3 was $3500 w/ no leslie, a 1956 that was dogged out and sounded like shit. The manuals were so worn I had to eventually replace all the guts...manuals, preamp, tone generator.... It's my road organ now and still isn't all that great. Probably dropped 5500 into that dog by now. So DO NOT get ripped off because you don't know anything (like I did). Edited January 28, 2005 by Soul Stream Quote
scottb Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 Are any of the other models worth having at any price? Quote
Soul Stream Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 Are any of the other models worth having at any price? Sure, but you get into dangerous territory imho unless you know A LOT about hammond organ and their models. B2s and C2s, you can buy optional percussion added later, ect. But all that costs money. There's BVs, and on and on.... But if you ask me...look for an A100. You can find them at VERY reasonable prices sometimes because people don't know they're really b3s in different cabinets. Or a steal on a b3 or c3. Quote
Soulstation1 Posted January 28, 2005 Author Report Posted January 28, 2005 how can you find out which year your hammond was made? is it stamped on the organ somewhere? a-100 was produced 1959-1965 ss1 Quote
Guest ariceffron Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 DONT BOTHER TRACKING DOWN THE MANUAL-- IT WONT HELP YOU IN THE SERVICE DEPT-- ITLL PROBABLY SAY CONTACT YOUR LOCAL HAMMOND DEALER (WHICH WENT OUT OF BUSSINESS IN 1970) AND THEN ITLL TEACH U TO PLAY 'OLD FOLKS AT HOME' Quote
Soul Stream Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 Just got the bill from the organ repairguy who came a couple of days ago....$443.00!!!!!!!!! Goddamn what a f'n rippoff. He hardly did shit and wants to charge out the ass for this stuff. To hell with these guys. Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 That's why its beneficial to learn how to do it yourself! That's what I've done. But my organ tech is a old friend of my dads, so he shares his knowledge with me. Quote
Joe G Posted January 29, 2005 Report Posted January 29, 2005 Oh Jim - there's a beautiful B-3 (with a Hammond cabinet) down at Marshall's. Thought you might like to go over there and drool on it or somethin'. Quote
Soul Stream Posted January 29, 2005 Report Posted January 29, 2005 That's why its beneficial to learn how to do it yourself! That's what I've done. But my organ tech is a old friend of my dads, so he shares his knowledge with me. Must be $400-worth nice to be in that position. Anyway, actually I've had the same guy out before, doing more and he charged about $180. Now his price is over $400??!!! He says there's not as much work as there use to be, churches have switched to digital keyboards....seems like I'm all of a sudden making up the difference for him. Well, just 8 gigs and I'll have that covered! Playing organ is REALLY profitable. Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted January 29, 2005 Report Posted January 29, 2005 Oh Jim - there's a beautiful B-3 (with a Hammond cabinet) down at Marshall's. Thought you might like to go over there and drool on it or somethin'. I'm sure they want a small fortune for it... and I'm sure they got it for nothing as a trade-in for some new digital piece of crap. Quote
Soul Stream Posted January 29, 2005 Report Posted January 29, 2005 You know, I'd love to have a really, really beautiful mint B3 and matching 122. I would love that. Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted January 29, 2005 Report Posted January 29, 2005 You know, I'd love to have a really, really beautiful mint B3 and matching 122. I would love that. Man, I am too honest. My dad, who is a piano technician, got this call about 2 summers ago from someone who bought a house and moved in only to find an organ in the basement. The previous owner, who was now in a home for the elderly, told them they could keep it. So this guy called my dad to ask if it was worth anything. My dad gives him my number and my wife go over there to look at it. Sitting in this guys basement, in the exact spot that it was delivered and dropped off almost 50 years before, is a MINT condition 1956 dark cherry B3 with matching cabinet. I mean absolutely MINT. No scratches anywhere. No marks on the pedals, no marks on the bench, NOTHING. It looked like it came right off the showroom floor. The guy had no idea what it was worth. It played beautifully, too. Gorgeous tone, even though the Hammond cabinet. But I looked at him and his wife and their two young kids (probably 2 and 4 years old) and thought to myself, "This guy just bought a house, has two kids and wife, two cars, he probably needs the money." So I told him what it was really worth. I could've just as easily said, "Ah, they ain't worth anything. The tubes are worth some money to guitar players. I'll give you $200 for it and haul it out for you." But I didn't... Quote
Soul Stream Posted January 29, 2005 Report Posted January 29, 2005 You know, I'd love to have a really, really beautiful mint B3 and matching 122. I would love that. Man, I am too honest. My dad, who is a piano technician, got this call about 2 summers ago from someone who bought a house and moved in only to find an organ in the basement. The previous owner, who was now in a home for the elderly, told them they could keep it. So this guy called my dad to ask if it was worth anything. My dad gives him my number and my wife go over there to look at it. Sitting in this guys basement, in the exact spot that it was delivered and dropped off almost 50 years before, is a MINT condition 1956 dark cherry B3 with matching cabinet. I mean absolutely MINT. No scratches anywhere. No marks on the pedals, no marks on the bench, NOTHING. It looked like it came right off the showroom floor. The guy had no idea what it was worth. It played beautifully, too. Gorgeous tone, even though the Hammond cabinet. But I looked at him and his wife and their two young kids (probably 2 and 4 years old) and thought to myself, "This guy just bought a house, has two kids and wife, two cars, he probably needs the money." So I told him what it was really worth. I could've just as easily said, "Ah, they ain't worth anything. The tubes are worth some money to guitar players. I'll give you $200 for it and haul it out for you." But I didn't... THAT's why we don't have mint B3s w/matching leslies. We're too nice. People that do are usually snakes or original owners or rich. Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted January 29, 2005 Report Posted January 29, 2005 Speaking of organ finds, my dream rig was on eBay last spring. A guy in Chicago was selling a beautiful 1954 Hammond B2 with a Leslie 21H and a Leslie 31H for only $2000. I think the auction ended at just under $2100. Of course, I didn't have the money. I later met a cat at a gig who had actually went to Chicago to play that organ because he was thinking about buying it and he said it was gorgeous. Quote
Soul Stream Posted January 29, 2005 Report Posted January 29, 2005 Before I got ripped off on my original shitty 56 B3 which sucked, they dealer (snake) said he had a beautiful cherry 63 in mint shape he was bringing to me, but the guy from Vanilla Fudge came in and bought it the day before. F Vanilla Fudge! Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted January 29, 2005 Report Posted January 29, 2005 Before I got ripped off on my original shitty 56 B3 which sucked, they dealer (snake) said he had a beautiful cherry 63 in mint shape he was bringing to me, but the guy from Vanilla Fudge came in and bought it the day before. F Vanilla Fudge! There are many more reason to hate Vanilla Fudge, but that's a good one. Quote
Soul Stream Posted January 29, 2005 Report Posted January 29, 2005 Before I got ripped off on my original shitty 56 B3 which sucked, they dealer (snake) said he had a beautiful cherry 63 in mint shape he was bringing to me, but the guy from Vanilla Fudge came in and bought it the day before. F Vanilla Fudge! There are many more reason to hate Vanilla Fudge, but that's a good one. To add insult to injury. After a gig a few weeks back, a dude (yes, he really was dude-ish) came up and said my organ playing reminded him of Vanilla Fudge. Damn...one guy says I suck and the other guy digs my Vanilla Fudge licks....arrrgh. Quote
Joe G Posted January 29, 2005 Report Posted January 29, 2005 Heh heh... you said "Fudge licks". Quote
Soul Stream Posted January 29, 2005 Report Posted January 29, 2005 Heh heh... you said "Fudge licks". I also said "organ playing"... Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted January 29, 2005 Report Posted January 29, 2005 I hate it when I'm playing with my organ and I forget to stop the fudge licks. Quote
Soul Stream Posted January 29, 2005 Report Posted January 29, 2005 I hate it when I'm playing with my organ and I forget to stop the fudge licks. Sometimes I'm thinking about jazz, but my fingers keep layin' on the fudge. Quote
casanovas347 Posted January 29, 2005 Report Posted January 29, 2005 Congrats SS1! A100 for 300$ is a burner! if ya need any schematics or service manual...i should have them in my archive....(workin as a service tech in two musicstores since 6yrs....) i can send you a Mail with a copy of the schematic part you need....just have to wait until next week (b/c my workplace is closed over the weekends ) send me a pm if you wanna have it! the A100 preamp is near the same as the B3....i guess the A100 has a built-in speaker driven with a 2 EL84 poweramp or similar..... what is need to be fixed....maybe i got some hints (but be careful...tube-equipment use high-voltage inside....could be dangerous!) best wishes and many cool moments with your organ! all the best & greeetz Paco Quote
Robert J Posted January 30, 2005 Report Posted January 30, 2005 I am so jealous. I am a pianist with organ envy. Quote
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