Ron S Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 (edited) Now available for preorder in Upcoming Releases, with 3 full-length tracks as samples. BTW, per the Mosaic site, this set was remastered by Ron McMaster, and not Malcolm Addey as was previously indicated in another thread. Edited January 28, 2005 by Ron S Quote
Eric Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 Has all of this material been issued on domestic CD? Thanks Quote
Brad Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 I believe it has but awhile ago. See this thread for some discussion. Quote
DrJ Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 Damn! Must say I am thoroughly disappointed to hear that it was McMaster, not Addey, who worked on this Select. I think most of McMaster's recent stuff is quite respectable, so it's not like I'll be passing based on this, but Addey's work is just generally mindblowing. Bummer. Quote
J.A.W. Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 Damn! Must say I am thoroughly disappointed to hear that it was McMaster, not Addey, who worked on this Select. I think most of McMaster's recent stuff is quite respectable, so it's not like I'll be passing based on this, but Addey's work is just generally mindblowing. Bummer. I have many of these recordings on two Japanese Toshiba "Super Bit Jazz Classics" mini-LP CDs, The Art of Pepper (TOCJ-9311) and Modern Art (TOCJ-9407), which were remastered by Ron McMaster. I'm guessing that, for economic reasons, Mosaic decided to use those remasters after all, rather than have Malcolm Addey remaster the recordings again. Quote
jazzbo Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 Yes, that's my guess as well. And it's a shame. I'm not likely to get this. I'll keep my older copies. Quote
Ron S Posted January 28, 2005 Author Report Posted January 28, 2005 Damn! Must say I am thoroughly disappointed to hear that it was McMaster, not Addey, who worked on this Select. I think most of McMaster's recent stuff is quite respectable, so it's not like I'll be passing based on this, but Addey's work is just generally mindblowing. Bummer. I have many of these recordings on two Japanese Toshiba "Super Bit Jazz Classics" mini-LP CDs, The Art of Pepper (TOCJ-9311) and Modern Art (TOCJ-9407), which were remastered by Ron McMaster. I'm guessing that, for economic reasons, Mosaic decided to use those remasters after all, rather than have Malcolm Addey remaster the recordings again. But would that be consistent with the following statement from the Mosaic web site? "For each of these exceptional sessions, we have returned to the original master tapes and remastered them in 24-bit with greatly improved results from all previous issues. " [bold added] Quote
J.A.W. Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 Damn! Must say I am thoroughly disappointed to hear that it was McMaster, not Addey, who worked on this Select. I think most of McMaster's recent stuff is quite respectable, so it's not like I'll be passing based on this, but Addey's work is just generally mindblowing. Bummer. I have many of these recordings on two Japanese Toshiba "Super Bit Jazz Classics" mini-LP CDs, The Art of Pepper (TOCJ-9311) and Modern Art (TOCJ-9407), which were remastered by Ron McMaster. I'm guessing that, for economic reasons, Mosaic decided to use those remasters after all, rather than have Malcolm Addey remaster the recordings again. But would that be consistent with the following statement from the Mosaic web site? "For each of these exceptional sessions, we have returned to the original master tapes and remastered them in 24-bit with greatly improved results from all previous issues. " [bold added] The McMaster remasters I'm referring to are also in 24-bit, and were done in 2002. But you're right, my guess doesn't seem to be consistent with that statement... Quote
Ron S Posted January 28, 2005 Author Report Posted January 28, 2005 Damn! Must say I am thoroughly disappointed to hear that it was McMaster, not Addey, who worked on this Select. I think most of McMaster's recent stuff is quite respectable, so it's not like I'll be passing based on this, but Addey's work is just generally mindblowing. Bummer. I have many of these recordings on two Japanese Toshiba "Super Bit Jazz Classics" mini-LP CDs, The Art of Pepper (TOCJ-9311) and Modern Art (TOCJ-9407), which were remastered by Ron McMaster. I'm guessing that, for economic reasons, Mosaic decided to use those remasters after all, rather than have Malcolm Addey remaster the recordings again. But would that be consistent with the following statement from the Mosaic web site? "For each of these exceptional sessions, we have returned to the original master tapes and remastered them in 24-bit with greatly improved results from all previous issues. " [bold added] The McMaster remasters I'm referring to are also in 24-bit, and were done in 2002. But you're right, my guess doesn't seem to be consistent with that statement... . . . unless they meant to say "improved results from all previous DOMESTIC issues." Quote
jazzbo Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 Don't you know: when an American record company refers to cds, they expect you to "realize" that there are no cds from any other country on the planet! "On cd for the FIRST TIME"! That makes sense, if you don't take in to account any foriegn issues! Quote
Ron S Posted January 28, 2005 Author Report Posted January 28, 2005 Don't you know:Â when an American record company refers to cds, they expect you to "realize" that there are no cds from any other country on the planet! Including Texas: "It's a whole other country!" Quote
Brad Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 Well, this will be the first time that I listen to them so it could be awhole another galaxy! Quote
Late Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 I think McMaster's 2002 remastering work on the Peppers for the Japanese market isn't so bad. I have all three SBJCs, and they sound pretty good to me. Nothing Addey-spectacular, but better than the original 80's U.S. reissues. More tape flaws are surfaced, but the drums (to my ears at least) are presented with more clarity. Some of those Omega tracks, remember, had fairly dubious sound to start off with. (Just my opinion, of course.) Some of the tracks — those with Perkins, for instance — will have perhaps been remastered more recently (2003?), as they weren't included in the Japanese reissues. Quote
Late Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 Well, this will be the first time that I listen to them ... You're in an enviable position. I think this is some of the best Pepper on record. Make sure to brew up your favorite coffee (or pour your favorite red) when the package arrives ... you're in for a treat! Quote
J.A.W. Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 Well, this will be the first time that I listen to them ... You're in an enviable position. I think this is some of the best Pepper on record. Make sure to brew up your favorite coffee (or pour your favorite red) when the package arrives ... you're in for a treat! This is early, excellent pre-Contemporary Art Pepper, but to be honest I prefer his subsequent Contemporary recordings, which in my opinion constitute his best work. Quote
J.A.W. Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 Well, this will be the first time that I listen to them ... You're in an enviable position. I think this is some of the best Pepper on record. Make sure to brew up your favorite coffee (or pour your favorite red) when the package arrives ... you're in for a treat! This is early, excellent pre-Contemporary Art Pepper, but to be honest I prefer his subsequent Contemporary recordings, which in my opinion constitute his best work. The Pepper Select is a must, though. Highly recommended. Quote
jazzbo Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 Don't you know:Â when an American record company refers to cds, they expect you to "realize" that there are no cds from any other country on the planet! Including Texas: "It's a whole other country!" That's right! When the Mosaic collection of the Complete Quartet Out Recordings is released, they're going to say "appearing on cd for the first time." Quote
jazzbo Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 I highly recommend this Pepper material as well. This and the material recently reissued on Savoy are high caliber jazz! Quote
Guest Chaney Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 I'm a newbie to this material and I'll be ordering the set. MAN those three tunes on Mosaic's site JUMP! Quote
J.A.W. Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 I'm a newbie to this material and I'll be ordering the set. MAN those three tunes on Mosaic's site JUMP! You'd better make that two... Quote
Guest Chaney Posted January 29, 2005 Report Posted January 29, 2005 I'm a newbie to this material and I'll be ordering the set. MAN those three tunes on Mosaic's site JUMP! You'd better make that two... Quote
P.D. Posted January 29, 2005 Report Posted January 29, 2005 Including Texas: "It's a whole other country!" That's right! When the Mosaic collection of the Complete Quartet Out Recordings is released, they're going to say "appearing on cd for the first time." Quote
DrJ Posted January 29, 2005 Report Posted January 29, 2005 I love this Pepper stuff, up there (in a different way) with his Contemporary dates for me. I have one of the 24 bit Japanese McMasters, and it's...well, not that great. In fact, I actually don't think it's any kind of improvement on the older American CD issues. The more I think about this, this might possibly be the first Mosaic Select that I will be passing on... Quote
Bluerein Posted January 29, 2005 Report Posted January 29, 2005 There's nothing wrong with the Mosaic statement for the remastering of this set. They refer to the older US editions (and why shouldn't they do that, most record buyers don't buy Japanese imports like we all do). I won't be buying this select as you can imagine. Quote
wesbed Posted January 29, 2005 Report Posted January 29, 2005 The Art Pepper Select will mark the first time I pre-order a set from Mosaic. I might as well include the Andrew Hill in my pre-order too. Feck. Quote
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