patricia Posted January 23, 2005 Report Posted January 23, 2005 NICE!!! Almost TOO roomy, if that's possible. Quote
porcy62 Posted January 23, 2005 Report Posted January 23, 2005 (edited) patricia said: NICE!!! Almost TOO roomy, if that's possible. Nessa's theory of vinyl relativity proved it is not possible ages ago. Edited January 23, 2005 by porcy62 Quote
Z-Man Posted January 24, 2005 Report Posted January 24, 2005 I use the Ikea Expedit that cool blue mentioned to start this thread (though mine is the darker chocalate brown color). I've got Mosaics and other boxes on the top row, LP's on the second, 78's and more LP's on the bottom, and for the others I made little shelves so I could put two tiers of CD's in each cube. It looks pretty good, and allows for easy reorganization of the collection, but stability is not its strong point. One good push from either side and this puppy is going down. My collection is outgrowing the unit, so I'll probably scrap it soon. I'll probably go the Dmitry route and spend a weekend building something ideal. Quote
Leeway Posted January 24, 2005 Report Posted January 24, 2005 Z-Man said: I use the Ikea Expedit that cool blue mentioned to start this thread (though mine is the darker chocalate brown color). I've got Mosaics and other boxes on the top row, LP's on the second, 78's and more LP's on the bottom, and for the others I made little shelves so I could put two tiers of CD's in each cube. It looks pretty good, and allows for easy reorganization of the collection, but stability is not its strong point. One good push from either side and this puppy is going down. My collection is outgrowing the unit, so I'll probably scrap it soon. I'll probably go the Dmitry route and spend a weekend building something ideal. If the particle board has already started to weaken, it won't need a puch to fall down; it might do so on its own, unexpectedly Jim is right that support rods will help, although the joints on the particle board can still collapse from too mushc pressure. Dmitry has it right, with both hardwood and supports. Great looking unit! Here is another option: Tonys Wood Shop Quote
JSngry Posted January 24, 2005 Report Posted January 24, 2005 Where Dmitry's design and mine differ is that he uses support rods, and I use full-length blocks of wood - solid, front-to-back support. I've never had anything collapse/break on me, but I don't use particularly long individual shelves, either. If you do, you need extra vertical supports, spaced to equally distribute the weight across the length of the shelf. As for lateral stability, well, there's a reason why so many shelving systems are enclosed in the back by a large piece of something, and it ain't just to keep the stuff from falling out. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted January 24, 2005 Report Posted January 24, 2005 Nothing wrong with plywood, a few nails and a circular saw. It has worked for me for 40 years. Quote
patricia Posted January 24, 2005 Report Posted January 24, 2005 Chuck Nessa said: Nothing wrong with plywood, a few nails and a circular saw. It has worked for me for 40 years. Chuck, my late father, who was a cabinet-maker, would have agreed with you. He found 1/2-1" plywood for shelving units were the best. You cut the wood to size, it's inexpensive and very sturdy. A router was used to make grooves for the shelves to slide into, glued securely and the units could be pretty well any size you wanted them to be. If you wanted to get really fancy, you can buy finished one, or even both sides, but you can also sand lightly and paint or stain to order. However, Dad kept his jazz collection in a very old cabinet that had a lock on the doors, to protect his records from us, his four kids. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted January 24, 2005 Report Posted January 24, 2005 patricia said: Dad kept his jazz collection in a very old cabinet that had a lock on the doors, to protect his records from us, his four kids. Unlike your dad, I can't afford doors or locks. Quote
JSngry Posted January 24, 2005 Report Posted January 24, 2005 Hell, I can't even afford kids. But I got'em anyway. Always the collector! Quote
Eric Posted January 24, 2005 Report Posted January 24, 2005 JSngry said: Hell, I can't even afford kids. But I got'em anyway. Always the collector! 'aint that the damn truth Quote
patricia Posted January 24, 2005 Report Posted January 24, 2005 (edited) If you wait until you can afford them to have kids, you'll never have them. It's not the initial cost, it's the accessories like sports, clubs and education. Imagine how many sets of mink-lined long underwear could be bought for that folding currency?? But, doors and a lock on your jazz, if you have little kids are a small price to pay to end up with what my dad had. His records started with some from the thirties and went right up to the mid-fifties. When he died, eight years ago, they were immaculate!!! Edited January 24, 2005 by patricia Quote
spinlps Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 I used the Expedit for 6+ years with no problems at all. That sucker was jammed with LP's with no discernable degradation. It's now in my son's room holding all manner of toys and books. I've since upgraded to their Bonde system which I've configured with an opening for my electronics and a hanging shelf for books. Great storage, low cost, super strong. I can post a pic or two if anyone is interested. Quote
cool_blue Posted January 28, 2005 Author Report Posted January 28, 2005 Yes, please post pix. Grazi, Cb Quote
cool_blue Posted January 28, 2005 Author Report Posted January 28, 2005 JSngry , please check your Private Messages. THx-Cb Quote
spinlps Posted January 31, 2005 Report Posted January 31, 2005 (edited) Not the best of pics, but you get the idea... More 12 cube shelves on the opposite wall. The baskets offer some room for expansion. Edited August 25, 2015 by spinlps Pic links broken. Quote
JSngry Posted January 31, 2005 Report Posted January 31, 2005 cool_blue said: JSngry , please check your Private Messages. THx-Cb None received from you... Quote
Jazz Kat Posted January 31, 2005 Report Posted January 31, 2005 spinlps said: Not the best of pics, but you get the idea... More 12 cube shelves on the opposite wall. The baskets offer some room for expansion. I think I saw that in my fantasy dream last night. Quote
wolff Posted January 31, 2005 Report Posted January 31, 2005 (edited) Nice, cozy space, spinlps. I see the VPI RC and what's your tt? Edited January 31, 2005 by wolff Quote
cool_blue Posted January 31, 2005 Author Report Posted January 31, 2005 Nice!!! I didnt see the Bondi system in the online catolog at ikea.com have any info, how does it compare in cost to the Expedit ? Best, Cb Quote
spinlps Posted January 31, 2005 Report Posted January 31, 2005 (edited) Thanks guys. Wolff: The TT is a Nottingham Analogue Spacedeck with Spacearm and a low output Dynavector XX-2. cb: The Bonde is in the latest online catalog. It is more expensive than the Expedit. I believe a standard 4 x 4 cube Expedit in white is running around $100. The 96" 2 x 6 cube Bonde alone was around $150 when I bought them last spring. They would have been cheaper in white though. The Bonde, however, is really flexible. I would not have had a space for the equipment with the larger, 25 cube, Expedit. If we move, then I can form a larger wall unit with the other 12 cube units. The bridging shelf gives me otherwise unused wall space for books, CD's, etc... I would love to have floor to ceiling shelving, but I couldn't find any ready made units to fit the 12 foot ceilings and custom was out of my $$$ league. So, I've got a bunch of prints / artwork to hang above the shelving that I just haven't got around to yet. The wall as you see it is, from left to right, a 2x6 unit + bridging shelf + 2x6 unit + 1 x 6 unit. Edited January 31, 2005 by spinlps Quote
cool_blue Posted January 31, 2005 Author Report Posted January 31, 2005 Spinlps: Is the Bonde considerbly more stable than the expedit or just more flexible?. Your system looks in the $500 + range. While the Expedit is about $150 Can. JSngry Just curious if you could post some photo's of your 1x12 reinforcements so I can get a btter idea how to do this. Best, Cb Quote
JSngry Posted January 31, 2005 Report Posted January 31, 2005 Don't have a digital camera, but I can tell you what I did - went to the lumber yard and bought a long piece of wood that's 1" thick X 12" across. Came home and measure the distance between empty shelves, and cut the long single piece into multiple single pieces of that length. Then, I placed them vertically between the shelves, so that the 1" side ran from top to bottom, and the 12" side ran from front to back. Basically, it's the same theory as splinlps setup, only the vertical seperation between cubicles is added after the fact, not built-in. Guestimating, I'd say that one of my shelves is about the lenght of three of his cubicles, and I've got 1 1X12 support in the middle of it. Hope that helps. Quote
cool_blue Posted January 31, 2005 Author Report Posted January 31, 2005 So they would be say the size of a record sleeve, but 1" thick ? Would you just lay them in on the sides or the middle of the cube, would they be fastened in any way ? Quote
spinlps Posted January 31, 2005 Report Posted January 31, 2005 cool_blue said: Spinlps: Is the Bonde considerbly more stable than the expedit or just more flexible?. Your system looks in the $500 + range. While the Expedit is about $150 Can. cb: I can only speak of the 4x4 Expedit. I would say that they are equally stable. The Expedit has nice exterior side supports while the Bonde has the sheer preventing back panel. I know some don't believe it, but that may be the most important part of the construction. They act in the same manner as the plywood sheer sheets used in buildings in earthquake areas. I moved to the Bonde b/c I needed more shelf space and wanted to incorporate my hardware racks in that space. I also live in an old house (1866) with winding staircases and odd room / hall connections and thought about what moving would look like. While the Bonde I have fairly tall, they are relatively skinny and should be fairly easy to move. As it was, I had to disasseble the 4x4 Expedit just to get it upstairs. Keep in mind that how you load the shelf will contribute to it's stability. Quote
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