Buddy Rich Big Band

[Larry Kart]

No, those Max tracks are taken from one of his own albums.

 

 

 

[JSngry]

The Band That Played Too Fast (blame the leader).

Still, a kick to hear Don Menza & Charles Owens, for various reasons. But that shit is too damn fast. It doesn't ahve to be, but for this band it is. The difference between this band and the ones before is palpable.

Different night, they start off pretty wooden, and then through "Machine", something happens, maybe Menza, but it happens. Funny how that shit works sometimes, nothing's happening and then it is.

 

[sidewinder]

Wow - ‘Jazz at the Maltings’. I thought that the BBC had wiped over the tapes for the whole of that series.

[JSngry]

B-3 Buddy Band.

It's things like this that make me think that sometimes Buddy's bands didn't swing, but not because of Buddy, he's swinging harder than his band. That Pacific Jazz-era band did not have that problem.

[JSngry]

Because they (mostly) can.

Lew Tabackin don't give a damn.And Snooky,,,

[gmonahan]

The thing I always notice when I watch videos of Buddy playing is just how much he really LOVED playing the drums. There seems to be real joy in the madness.

 

 

 

gregmo

[JSngry]

On 10/7/2018 at 3:23 PM, Mark Stryker said:

Hey, here's another one. CRAZY first tune -- Bill Reddie's "Machine" with choreography that's half West Side Story and half elementary school playground. Dig the band going in circles on space age teeter-totters and Jay Corre getting pushed around in a wagon during his solo. Obviously,, it's all dubbed, but Rich makes a joke about it to Greco after the number: "All that with two drums!"

 

 

Apparently Buddy would have been ready for this!

 

[Mark Stryker]

On 10/13/2018 at 3:36 PM, JSngry said:

B-3 Buddy Band.

It's things like this that make me think that sometimes Buddy's bands didn't swing, but not because of Buddy, he's swinging harder than his band. That Pacific Jazz-era band did not have that problem.

This is exactly right. That's the biggest problem with the post-1969 bands. Too many college kids. Plus, the electric bass exacerbates the issue. Not because it's not "pure jazz" or "authentic" but because the attack, timbre and texture of the electric instrument doesn't have the weight, warmth or pop ("hump") an acoustic bass when walking quarter notes. So the beat sounds thin. Not helpful when the band is already sounding thin and too on-top to swing.

Edited July 1, 2019 by Mark Stryker

[jazzcorner]

Just on the way to me - don't miss it - available4 on 2 CD's or 3 LP's

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[jazzcorner]

Re: Buddy Rich " Just In Time - The Final Recording"

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a) the 3 LP-set

b) the 2 CD-set

Both highly recommended

 

[Quasimado]

On 1/21/2005 at 7:22 AM, AllenLowe said:

... Dave Schildkraut played with Buddy's band for a short while, though I don't know the dates. According to Dave's wife, Buddy told Dave that, after Artie Shaw, Dave was the greatest clarinetist he ever heard. Now - does anyone know : 1) When Dave played with Buddy; and 2) if there are any recordings with Dave in the band -

thanks -

Allen - according to the current (7/31/2023) Wikipedia article on JR Monterose, Dave was with Buddy Rich during 1951/52? (nothing about recording, unfortunately).

"... he (JR) joined the Buddy Rich big band in late 1951.^[1] Though the band had some excellent bop-oriented musicians (Rich, Dave Schildkraut, Allen Eager and Philly Joe Jones), Monterose soon left, citing the lack of soloing opportunities ..."

[AllenLowe]

4 hours ago, Quasimado said:

Allen - according to the current (7/31/2023) Wikipedia article on JR Monterose, Dave was with Buddy Rich during 1951/52? (nothing about recording, unfortunately).

"... he (JR) joined the Buddy Rich big band in late 1951.^[1] Though the band had some excellent bop-oriented musicians (Rich, Dave Schildkraut, Allen Eager and Philly Joe Jones), Monterose soon left, citing the lack of soloing opportunities ..."

thanks - also, actually some years ago, someone (might have been Mike Fitzgerald) posted an actual picture of the Buddy Rich band with Dave in the sax section. Sadly, I seem to have lost it.