king ubu Posted January 11, 2005 Report Posted January 11, 2005 How about Pierre Dorge? Got one of his Steeplechases and really like his playing and writing. Quote
brownie Posted January 11, 2005 Report Posted January 11, 2005 Fred Guy Did not take notice of his playing until the Duke Ellington Centennial Edition box appeared in clear sound to render him justice Quote
mjzee Posted January 13, 2005 Report Posted January 13, 2005 Doug Raney - Check out "You Go To My Head" (Steeplechase). Oh yeah, his father was pretty good, too. Quote
chris olivarez Posted January 13, 2005 Report Posted January 13, 2005 May I nominate John Fahey? Yes you may. Good choice. Quote
king ubu Posted January 14, 2005 Report Posted January 14, 2005 Mundell Lowe! Picked up this nice one in a sale recently: Quote
Quasimado Posted January 15, 2005 Report Posted January 15, 2005 Don Overberg did some interesting stuff with Harry Babasin's Jazz Pickers in the 50's, and was with Warne Marsh on "Live in Las Vegas"... AND there are some not so secret private tapes of the Marsh group at the Haig in LA in 1956, where Overberg plays SNAKES! Q Quote
Jazz Kat Posted January 16, 2005 Report Posted January 16, 2005 Wow, as soon as I first saw this thread, I was gonna put Mundell Lowe. I read every single one of the 9 pages, and the second to the last post stated him! hehe. Yes Mundell was pretty underrated. I have his Transit West album. I never thought Joe Pass was that underrated, but I hardly ever here of him. Quote
Tom in RI Posted January 22, 2005 Report Posted January 22, 2005 Just reviewed all 10 pages and didn't see Bruce Forman, his "Forman on the Job" was my intro to him and to Joe Henderson, a great disc. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted January 23, 2005 Report Posted January 23, 2005 Ray Russell - 3 on CBS, one on RCA-Victor, one on Black Lion. From Atilla Zoller-esque on the first two through a very 'out' hybrid of SHarrock, Bailey and Arto Lindsay on the latter, his career trajectory in the 60s and 70s is something to watch. Plus, his writing and group-assembly tactics are something to behold. I've also been enjoying the first Raymond Boni LP (at least to my knowledge), an album of solo guitar called "L'Oiseau, L'Arbe, Le Beton." Wonderfully warped, yet subtle improvisations, some almost minimalist. LP was on Futura's SON series, and it was reissued on CD by Marge. Don't care as much for his later synth-guitar ramblings, but this is a must for anyone whose solo-guitar tastes run askew. Quote
Jazz Kat Posted January 23, 2005 Report Posted January 23, 2005 There are sme more guitarists I know, but for some reason, they are too OVERRATED more me to remember them. Quote
DrJ Posted January 23, 2005 Report Posted January 23, 2005 Wow, I missed this thread for a LONG time...until today in fact! Brownian Motion Posted: Jan 7 2005, 12:50 PM Report PostQuote Post In some sense all guitarists who were contemporaries of Django and Charlie Christian are overlooked, so huge are these 2 swing players reputations. One who stands out for me is Tiny Grimes, especially his contributions to the fabulous Art Tatum Trio recordings of 1944. I was gonna nominate Grimes myself. I scored the Hardee/Quebec BN Mosaic LP box a while back and in making a back-up CD-R copy listened again to all the material. What struck me this time through (possibly due to the better sonics of the LP set) as it never had before was the quality of Grimes' playing. It really made me sit up and take notice, this guy was phenomenal. I more recently found an LP called SOME GROOVY FOURS led by Grimes, a session from the 70s recorded in Paris that is a neglected gem. So nice to be able to hear his wonderful tone and ideas in good sound. Tiny was the stuff, no question. Paul Secor mentioned Oscar Aleman, and I'd agree with that one too. A contemporary of Django, but really sounds very little like him. This is a thread dense with info, so if this next one was mentioned already I apologize for missing it - I didn't see Sonny Greenwich (at least not a lot of discussion). I'll relook and edit my comments if I find them this time through. He deserves comment regardless. Quote
AmirBagachelles Posted January 23, 2005 Report Posted January 23, 2005 A great unsung rock guitarist: Bill Kirchen of the Lost Planet Airmen. He could sling it back in the day. I don't think I ever saw a more entertaining live guitarist. Quote
Jim R Posted January 24, 2005 Report Posted January 24, 2005 A great unsung rock guitarist... With all due respect, and not to take anything away from your recommendation, but... can we not start listing every guitar player who ever lived here? This type of "list" thread is already kind of diluted in a way (in terms of being able to focus on who's mentioned and hopefully generate some kind of discussion that will encourage people to actually investigate those players they're unfamiliar with). Just a thought. What about an "Overlooked rock guitarists" thread? B-) Quote
EKE BBB Posted January 24, 2005 Report Posted January 24, 2005 Wow, I missed this thread for a LONG time...until today in fact! Brownian Motion Posted: Jan 7 2005, 12:50 PM Report PostQuote Post In some sense all guitarists who were contemporaries of Django and Charlie Christian are overlooked, so huge are these 2 swing players reputations. One who stands out for me is Tiny Grimes, especially his contributions to the fabulous Art Tatum Trio recordings of 1944. I was gonna nominate Grimes myself. I scored the Hardee/Quebec BN Mosaic LP box a while back and in making a back-up CD-R copy listened again to all the material. What struck me this time through (possibly due to the better sonics of the LP set) as it never had before was the quality of Grimes' playing. It really made me sit up and take notice, this guy was phenomenal. I more recently found an LP called SOME GROOVY FOURS led by Grimes, a session from the 70s recorded in Paris that is a neglected gem. So nice to be able to hear his wonderful tone and ideas in good sound. Tiny was the stuff, no question. Paul Secor mentioned Oscar Aleman, and I'd agree with that one too. A contemporary of Django, but really sounds very little like him. This is a thread dense with info, so if this next one was mentioned already I apologize for missing it - I didn't see Sonny Greenwich (at least not a lot of discussion). I'll relook and edit my comments if I find them this time through. He deserves comment regardless. Since you´ve mentioned Tiny Grimes, I´ll point out the OTHER guitarist in the Art Tatum trio, Everett Barksdale. In fact I prefer his interaction with Tatum. Quote
Sundog Posted January 27, 2005 Report Posted January 27, 2005 I have very limited exposure to both Yoshiaki Masuo and Takayuki Kato. But I really like what I've heard. Quote
medjuck Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 Ray Crawford - I think he was the first to play that bongo imitation on the guitar, at least he was the most inventive at it. Very overlooked, and very under-recorded. I LOVE the stuff he recorded with Ahmad Jamal. I think I've never heard his stuff with Jamal but I love his work with Gil Evans, on Katanga and on his own Candid release. Aa very distinctive player: When I first got Katanga I put it on and left the room; when I returned it was during one of his solos and I thought I was listening to Out of the Cool. Quote
marcello Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 Speaking of Japanese players, what about Ryo Kawasaki, who I remember with Elvin Jones on the 70's. Did he go smooth jazz? With Elvin, he was on fire! Quote
mjzee Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 Another very good Japanese guitarist is Satoshi Inoue. He put out a CD a few years back with Larry Goldings that is very tasty. Quote
Dan Gould Posted January 28, 2005 Report Posted January 28, 2005 I hadn't heard him before I saw him with Houston Person two weeks ago, but Bobby Devos is a solid, Grant-inspired player. Picked up this one at the gig: Nice, and Billy James and Gene Ludwig back him up. Quote
Brownian Motion Posted January 30, 2005 Report Posted January 30, 2005 Cal Collins was Carl Jefferson's house guitarists back in the 70s and 80s. I always liked his style--sensitive and sure-footed. His early recordings for Concord Jazz are, alas, out-of-print. One of his best latter-day efforts is Bob Barnard's "New York Notes", which features Cal extensively. Quote
Sundog Posted July 10, 2005 Report Posted July 10, 2005 Ray Crawford - I think he was the first to play that bongo imitation on the guitar, at least he was the most inventive at it. Very overlooked, and very under-recorded. I LOVE the stuff he recorded with Ahmad Jamal. I was just listening to Chamber Music Of The New Jazz this morning. Beautiful swinging player. Quote
JazzRules Posted July 10, 2005 Report Posted July 10, 2005 Attila Zoller ← Ah yes, my old guitar teacher's teacher. LIved up in Vermont as I recall? Quote
JazzRules Posted July 10, 2005 Report Posted July 10, 2005 Johnny Smith ← "Overlooked"? Gibson, Heritage and others made "Johnny Smith" model guitars, if that's an indication. Quote
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