Packer/Eagle Great Reggie White has died!

[sheldonm]

  7/4 said:

  Big Al said:

Good gravy, this is just damn hilarious: people saying vicious and hurtful things about a dead man who said vicious and hurtful things while he was living. May we all hold our tongues when it’s your turn.

My God, some of you sound as if he was going after “sinners” with fire and brimstone. And you judge him based on the sound bites. This from folks who never even met the man or spent even a second with the man. Did you not read the quotes from those that did?

Some of you sound damn glad he’s gone. Unbelievable.

Eh? He said some dumb shit.

I don't think anyone said he didn't say dumb shit and I would be the first to agree that he did; only that we all say dumb shit from time to time but we only get bent out of shape about it when someone else does it!

Mark

[7/4]

  sheldonm said:

  7/4 said:

How long before someone mentions how Hitler was probably a swell guy and kind to his friends too?

I'm sure you're not comparing Reggie White to Hitler !

Nonsense.

I'm comparing people who apologize for Mr. White to those who do the same for Hitler. A bit of a stretch, but there's nothing cool about White's stoopid remarks.

Edited December 27, 2004 by 7/4

[Big Al]

  7/4 said:

  sheldonm said:

  7/4 said:

How long before someone mentions how Hitler was probably a swell guy and kind to his friends too?

I'm sure you're not comparing Reggie White to Hitler !

Nonsense.

I'm comparing people who apologize for Mr. White to those who do the same for a Hitler. A bit of a stretch, but there's nothing cool about White's stoopid remarks.

So far, the number of those attacking White for his remarks FAR outnumber those who are apologizing/defending his remarks.

[Christiern]

Big Al: "Good gravy, this is just damn hilarious: people saying vicious and hurtful things about a dead man who said vicious and hurtful things while he was living. May we all hold our tongues when it’s your turn."

• There is a fundamental difference, Big Al.
  
  If what is being said about White strikes you as "vicious and hurtful," don't blame the person who points that out, blame the person who is being quoted, the person whose expressed opinion is under scrutiny. What White said was indeed vicious and hurtful, whether or not he had the intelligence to realize that, and if bringing that up is vicious and hurtful, well, I think that's a little bit like the under-endowed calling a mirror a liar.
  

[Dan Gould]

The outpouring of viciousness for this man, who died way too young, leaving a young wife and children behind, tells me one thing:

Christiern and a whole bunch of other people posting here are living saints, perfect human beings who have never done anything wrong, or stupid, or said or done anything that they regret.

We should be thankful that they walk the earth and can show us the way.

But at least I know that when they kick, no one will every say anything nasty about them. They're the most perfect people since that mythical dude Reggie White called his "saviour".

Edited December 27, 2004 by Dan Gould

[7/4]

  Dan Gould said:

The outpouring of viciousness for this man, who died way too young, leaving a young wife and children behind, tells me one thing:

Christiern and a whole bunch of other people posting here are living saints, perfect human beings who have never done anything wrong, or stupid, or said or done anything that they regret.

We should be thankful that they walk the earth and can show us the way.

But at least I know that when they kick, no one will every say anything nasty about them. They're the most perfect people since that mythical dude Reggie White called his "saviour".

See my previous post that started with the phrase "Nonsense."

[Dan Gould]

This from the asshole who compares White apologists to Hitler apologists.

I'm guessing that with such a small brain that leaves a tremendous amount of room for all the shit in your head.

[7/4]

  Dan Gould said:

This from the asshole who compares White apologists to Hitler apologists.

I'm guessing that with such a small brain that leaves a tremendous amount of room for all the shit in your head.

See my post where I wrote:

  Quote

We are in the time of the stoopid people.

They vote for stoopid people and steal entire elections. They agree with dumb shit other stoopid people say, don't think twice about it and when you call them on this thoughtless behavior, they see nothing wrong with their mindlessness.

Where's the next tailgate party? Yeah team and praise the lord!

[Dan Gould]

  clementine said:

have a blessed day, dumbass.

You do the same, butt wipe.

[jlhoots]

Oy vey. That is, of course, IMHO.

Whew - what a thread this is.

[sheldonm]

  7/4 said:

  sheldonm said:

  7/4 said:

How long before someone mentions how Hitler was probably a swell guy and kind to his friends too?

I'm sure you're not comparing Reggie White to Hitler !

Nonsense.

I'm comparing people who apologize for Mr. White to those who do the same for Hitler. A bit of a stretch, but there's nothing cool about White's stoopid remarks.

7/4,

I was being facetious when I questioned you. I knew you weren't making a comparison between the two, just poking at you a bit.

Mark

[Christiern]

Funny how a successful sports figure can get away with making outrageously bigoted remarks. Also interesting to note how some people are less offended by the remarks themselves than they are by a criticism of them.

I am reminded of the existence/non-existence of WMDs...oh, but that's another story, eh Dan?

Sorry, the name-calling somehow triggered my memory.

[7/4]

  sheldonm said:

  7/4 said:

  sheldonm said:

  7/4 said:

How long before someone mentions how Hitler was probably a swell guy and kind to his friends too?

I'm sure you're not comparing Reggie White to Hitler !

Nonsense.

I'm comparing people who apologize for Mr. White to those who do the same for Hitler. A bit of a stretch, but there's nothing cool about White's stoopid remarks.

7/4,

I was being facetious when I questioned you. I knew you weren't making a comparison between the two, just poking at you a bit.

Mark

We're cool Mark.

[Big Al]

  Christiern said:

Funny how a successful sports figure can get away with making outrageously bigoted remarks. Also interesting to note how some people are less offended by the remarks themselves than they are by a criticism of them.

Also interesting how people put more weight on the comments rather than on the whole man's life.

Especially on one they've never met.

[7/4]

  Big Al said:

  Christiern said:

Funny how a successful sports figure can get away with making outrageously bigoted remarks. Also interesting to note how some people are less offended by the remarks themselves than they are by a criticism of them.

Also interesting how people put more weight on the comments rather than on the whole man's life.

Especially on one they've never met.

Did you know Reggie White?

[sheldonm]

I met him once when I used to photograph Colts games, but of course that's not the same as knowing him!

[Big Al]

  7/4 said:

  Big Al said:

  Christiern said:

Funny how a successful sports figure can get away with making outrageously bigoted remarks. Also interesting to note how some people are less offended by the remarks themselves than they are by a criticism of them.

Also interesting how people put more weight on the comments rather than on the whole man's life.

Especially on one they've never met.

Did you know Reggie White?

No, but I think I'll give more credence to those who did (those quoted in the ESPN story) than to those who didn't (pretty near everyone in this thread).

[porcy62]

  Big Al said:

  7/4 said:

  Big Al said:

  Christiern said:

Funny how a successful sports figure can get away with making outrageously bigoted remarks. Also interesting to note how some people are less offended by the remarks themselves than they are by a criticism of them.

Also interesting how people put more weight on the comments rather than on the whole man's life.

Especially on one they've never met.

Did you know Reggie White?

No, but I think I'll give more credence to those who did (those quoted in the ESPN story) than to those who didn't (pretty near everyone in this thread).

Do you know those people who knew Reggie White?

[7/4]

  Big Al said:

  7/4 said:

  Big Al said:

  Christiern said:

Funny how a successful sports figure can get away with making outrageously bigoted remarks. Also interesting to note how some people are less offended by the remarks themselves than they are by a criticism of them.

Also interesting how people put more weight on the comments rather than on the whole man's life.

Especially on one they've never met.

Did you know Reggie White?

No, but I think I'll give more credence to those who did (those quoted in the ESPN story) than to those who didn't (pretty near everyone in this thread).

  Quote

We are in the time of the stoopid people.

They vote for stoopid people and steal entire elections. They agree with dumb shit other stoopid people say, don't think twice about it and when you call them on this thoughtless behavior, they see nothing wrong with their mindlessness.

Where's the next tailgate party? Yeah team and praise the lord!

[Christiern]

Big Al:"Also interesting how people put more weight on the comments rather than on the whole man's life.

Especially on one they've never met."

• Yes, one is reminded of all that fuss people made when Belafonte referred to Powell and Rice as House Negroes (to put it politely). Guess they didn't know that he was an accomplished singer/actor. And then there was Jesse Jackson's "Hymie Town" remark, and Rumsfeld's recent... and...and Billy Graham's anti-Semitic remarks, and Falwell's homophobic remarks... and Pat Robertson's gays-cause-hurricanes remark, and ...etc., etc. I mean, what is this world coming to when famous people are criticized for making racist, mean-spirited utterances--where is it not written that celebrity comes with a license to make outrageous, racist, slanderous remarks?
  
  What's even more shocking is that most of the people who dare take offense at offensive remarks have never even met these part-time bigots/full-time stars.
  
  Thank you for pointing out this inequity, Big Al.
  

[connoisseur series500]

I hold mixed feelings for Reggie White.

He was obviously a great football player.

As a human being, he apparently touched the lives of many. He had strong leadership qualities. He was generally a good role model. On the other hand, he came across as highly bigoted and narrowminded. I wouldn't appreciate it if I were on a football team and this defensive end comes up to me and asks me how I'm doing spiritually...

none of your damned business, my fine sir!!

I neither like nor dislike him. He had positive as well as negative qualities. On balance, I think I'm glad he walked the earth.

No need for the offensive shit spouted by 7/4. And Clem--well, Clem is Clem.

I do understand Christiern's points.

[7/4]

  connoisseur series500 said:

No need for the offensive shit spouted by 7/4.

If the glove don't fit, don't try to wear it Jr.

[connoisseur series500]

  7/4 said:

  b3-er said:

  Shawn said:

When asked why he went to Green Bay he responded. "I came to sack sin & quarterbacks". 

And that's exactly the attitude that I find repulsive. "Sack sin"?

We are in the time of the stoopid people.

They vote for stoopid people and steal entire elections. They agree with dumb shit other stoopid people say, don't think twice about it and when you call them on this thoughtless behavior, they see nothing wrong with their mindlessness.

Where's the next tailgate party? Yeah team and praise the lord!

Stooopid post of the day....

[Big Al]

  Christiern said:

Big Al:"Also interesting how people put more weight on the comments rather than on the whole man's life.

Especially on one they've never met."

• Yes, one is reminded of all that fuss people made when Belafonte referred to Powell and Rice as House Negroes (to put it politely). Guess they didn't know that he was an accomplished singer/actor. And then there was Jesse Jackson's "Hymie Town" remark, and Rumsfeld's recent... and...and Billy Graham's anti-Semitic remarks, and Falwell's homophobic remarks... and Pat Robertson's gays-cause-hurricanes remark, and ...etc., etc. I mean, what is this world coming to when famous people are criticized for making racist, mean-spirited utterances--where is it not written that celebrity comes with a license to make outrageous, racist, slanderous remarks?
  
  What's even more shocking is that most of the people who dare take offense at offensive remarks have never even met these part-time bigots/full-time stars.
  
  Thank you for pointing out this inequity, Big Al.
  

Speaking of inequity, you're the one who decided to bring it to everyone's attention what an "outspoken born-again homophobe" White allegedly was.

I am sure there are millions who appreciate your little gesture of "equity."

Oh, and one other thing: none of the folks you listed have passed on. I suspect that when they do, you'll be just as "equitable" to those folks as you are to White.

[7/4]

  connoisseur series500 said:

  7/4 said:

  b3-er said:

  Shawn said:

When asked why he went to Green Bay he responded. "I came to sack sin & quarterbacks". 

And that's exactly the attitude that I find repulsive. "Sack sin"?

We are in the time of the stoopid people.

They vote for stoopid people and steal entire elections. They agree with dumb shit other stoopid people say, don't think twice about it and when you call them on this thoughtless behavior, they see nothing wrong with their mindlessness.

Where's the next tailgate party? Yeah team and praise the lord!

Stooopid post of the day....

Please note jury, that mr. 500 lives in a red stoopid people state and has a seriously unhealthy obsession with post counts.

Edited December 27, 2004 by 7/4