the unfileables

[Kevin Bresnahan]

I put various at the end but at one point, I had them under 'V' for various.

I've only had few that were hard to file. The Sonny Clark Memorial Band was a tough one (I finally chose 'S'). Fourplay is a another. It feels like Jordan's band but it states "Fourplay" on the spine, so it goes under 'F'.

Does everyone file The Three Sounds under 'T' or does anyone file them with their Gene Harris discs?

Am I the only one who continually mis-files Maria Schneider's discs? I am always finding them all over the place among the 'S' discs.

Later,

Kevin

[Rooster_Ties]

Lately I've gotten in the habit of filing discs that are a tribute to a single artist/composer, at the end of that composer's section.

For instance, I have a number of Miles Davis-related discs, mostly stuff like the two "Yo Miles!" discs, a big-band disc by the UMO Jazz Orchestra fronted by Tim Hagans (doing big-band versions of electric-era Miles tunes), and Mark Isham's electric-Miles tribute. All of them are filed just after the 'real' Miles Davis CD's.

But I'm not totally consistent about it -- I have Joe Henderson's tribute to Miles filed with Henderson's stuff, cuz I have a lot of Henderson.

I started doing this because I didn't have any other Isham, and kept forgetting the guy's name -- so it was just easier to file it with the Miles discs.

I have a couple Herbie Hancock tribute discs I do the same thing with -- file them right after the Herbie CD's.

[brownie]

I've only had few that were hard to file. The Sonny Clark Memorial Band was a tough one (I finally chose 'S').

I wanted to relisten to that one a while back and could not locate it It was not right after the Sonny Clarks where it once was. The search is still on...

[king ubu]

I've only had few that were hard to file. The Sonny Clark Memorial Band was a tough one (I finally chose 'S').

I wanted to relisten to that one a while back and could not locate it It was not right after the Sonny Clarks where it once was. The search is still on...

Have that after my Sonny Clark discs - seems the most logical place to me (at least I always find it there).

[kh1958]

I've only had few that were hard to file. The Sonny Clark Memorial Band was a tough one (I finally chose 'S').

I wanted to relisten to that one a while back and could not locate it It was not right after the Sonny Clarks where it once was. The search is still on...

Under Zorn or Horvitz or Previte?

[Adam]

I put Various at the end, after Z. Quartet at Massey Hall is under Parker, because I originally read about it in a description of Charlie Parker music, so that is the assocaition that has stuck in my mind. Sonny Clark Memorial Quartet is under Sonny Clark ("C") and I can always find it.

I have a separate section for soundtracks, and they go in alphabetical order by title of the film. But it's only about 20 CDs, so it's no big deal if the alphabet gets mixed up. And the Jazz in Paris "Jazz et Cinema" just gets thrown in there somewhere.

[Jazzmoose]

An example that really isn't that difficult, but I've fun with in the past involves all of the Mulligan parings. For awhile when I owned no Mulligan I filed Monk Meets Mulligan under Mulligan, just so I'd have something there. Now it's back in the Monk section. The Konitz with Mulligan has always been in the K section, but I do file the Mulligan Meets Hodges release with Mulligan, since Gerry is meeting Johnny, not the other way around.

I mainly brought up the above in that I always keep in mind the possibility that Mulligan might accidentally, or on purpose, be filed with anyone he ever met in his life. A bit of wine and anything can happen!

You know, I've often thought that I should just buy two copies of any CD with "Meets" in the title...

[AmirBagachelles]

Now that you mention this, I noticed last night how great a certain kind of box is, and maybe this would work for you. I keep the Ornette Beauty/Atlantic box on a book case with other CDs, and it's cool because if the red side is showing, and the ribbon is left protruding, I just pull it out the interior box and the exterior shell box just stays put on the bookcase, a stationary placeholder, nothing else touched or disturbed. I was thinking I need double boxes, w/ the exterior box open on one side, exactly like that for CDRs. I was thinking awhile back that the record companies, while they are crying over the alleged impact of CDR trading, should be selling us artwork and gear such as this for the ad-hoc portion of our collection.

[MartyJazz]

I find this problem generally comes up with anthologies which is solved generally by sticking them at the end of the collection, however there are some exceptions that I note in my filing system:

1) BIRDS & BALLADS, a Galaxy anthology of tunes associated with Bird together with ballads that are generally not associated with Bird, played by groups under the leadership of Joe Farrell, Johnny Griffin, Joe Henderson, John Klemmer, Harold Land and Art Pepper. It just seems convenient to put it after Parker because of the Bird connection and as Pepper is so close by alphabetically.

2) AMERICANS IN EUROPE, an Impulse recording of a concert in '62 which featured groups led by Don Byas, Idrees Sulieman, Bud Powell, Kenny Clarke and Bill Smith. Byas is so smokin' and incredible on a lengthy version of "All the Things You Are" that I keep this one in the Byas section.

3) THE NEW WAVE IN JAZZ, another Impulse live date of various groups led by Coltrane, Grachan Moncur, Archie Shepp, Charles Tolliver with Bobby Hutcherson, performing at the Village Gate in NYC in '65. Because of Trane's presence, it makes sense to me to place it with other Trane Impulses.

4) BIRTH OF THE THIRD STREAM, a Columbia recording of various ensembles performing ambitious works composed by Giuffre, J.J. Johnson, John Lewis, Gunther Schuller, George Russell, and Mingus. Because I'm a Mingus completist, this recording is in his section.

Edited December 24, 2004 by MartyJazz

[Bright Moments]

o.k. folks help me out please! where do i file this one!

BTW this is one excellent cd! B-)

[Rooster_Ties]

3) THE NEW WAVE IN JAZZ, another Impulse live date of various groups led by Coltrane, Grachan Moncur, Archie Shepp, Charles Tolliver with Bobby Hutcherson, performing at the Village Gate in NYC in '65. Because of Trane's presence, it makes sense to me to place it with other Trane Impulses.

I file this one alternately with my Tolliver and Moncur CD's, depending on my mood. (I think it's filed with the Moncur currently, mainly cuz I've been listening to more of his music of late - since the new Moncur disc came out. But when I get on a Tolliver kick, it might just get moved over there.)

[Bright Moments]

where to file this puppy?

decided on "b" for braxton.

[Bright Moments]

o.k. folks help me out please! where do i file this one!

BTW this is one excellent cd! B-)

decided on "m" for mcintyre.

[DrJ]

I use the "various" filed under "v" alphabetically by title of the recording approach

[Bright Moments]

soliciting recommendations as to where to file this one!

[Guest Chaney]

Want a challenge? Try finding a spot on the shelf for the CDs discussed in the Funny Rat thread.

Solution? File by label name.

Anyone else do this?

[Michael Fitzgerald]

Sure, I do - now you can experience the wonderful new problems when Sony/BMG issues CDs with five different label names on them: Columbia Legacy Epic CTI Sony BMG.

Mike

[Jazzmoose]

I've considered it. It seemed like a silly idea at first, but with the smaller labels I'm beginning to warm to the idea, since they each seem to have their own "personality".

[Rosco]

My copy of Diz and Getz used to be easy... It sat at the end of Stan Getz, which was also the beginning of Dizzy Gillespie. -_-

That worked until I bought a Terry Gibbs CD, which screwed the whole thing up.

Oh, and surely the Massey Hall concert gets filed under 'Charlie Chan'?

[Alexander]

Ray Charles - Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music:

Do you file it with your other Ray Cds  in your R&B stuff or put it with your C&W cds right next to your Patsy Cline stuff?????????????

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I only have three categories of music: Jazz, Classical, and Everything else. So "Modern Sounds in C&W" is filed with the Ray Charles CDs, which are pretty much right next to the Patsy Cline CDs!

[Alexander]

I use the "various" filed under "v" alphabetically by title of the recording approach

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So do I.

In addition, I file "Jazz At Massey Hall v.1" under Parker and volume two under Powell. If a CD is released under a band name, I would file it alphabetically under that name, even if its a one-off recording. The only exception to this that I can think of is the "New Directions" disc which I have filed under Osby.

When a date is co-led, I always file it under the first name credited on the spine. If its "Mulligan and Monk," I'd file it under Mulligan. If it were "Monk and Mulligan," I'd file it under Monk. If the cover title and the artist credit on the spine differ, I defer to the spine over the cover.

Here's one that bugged me for a long time: Should albums by Faces be shelved with the albums by the Small Faces, or should they be filed separately? In the past, I shelved the separately, but more recently I've changed my mind and filed them together (under S, in case anyone was wondering). Another one that bugged me for a long time was whether or not albums by groups with frontmen who went on to celebrated solo careers should be filed under that artist's name. For example: Would you file CDs by Them under T, or would you file them with the Van Morrison discs? Would you file "Cheap Thrills" by Big Brother and the Holding Company under B, or would you file it with the Janis Joplin discs? And why don't a feel the same impulse to file the Faces discs with the Rod Stewart discs or the solo Beatles material with the Beatles? Curiouser and curiouser!

Edited August 21, 2005 by Alexander

[Bright Moments]

soliciting recommendations as to where to file this one!

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well i am surprised that nobody had any suggestions. i filed it under james carter who, IMHO, has had the most success in his career of the five "young" tenors on this 1991 recording. -_-

[Bright Moments]

where to file this one? i am thinking with zoot simms.