Leeway Posted December 13, 2004 Report Posted December 13, 2004 I've picked up a number of Xanadu LPs recently, which got me curious about the history of the label. I know that Don Schlitten founded and operated it, although don't know much more than that. I found an online Xanadu discography (to which our own Chck Nessa contributed): Xanadu Discography Looks like there are a lot of good albums that went away with the label. How much of this was picked up on other labels? Or is currently available? Also, are there any particularly strong dates in the Xanadu catalog worth dearching out? Quote
Dan Gould Posted December 13, 2004 Report Posted December 13, 2004 I think some Xanadu dates made it to emusic, transferred from previously unplayed vinyl. Quote
Brad Posted December 13, 2004 Report Posted December 13, 2004 I have a few Xanadu cds and can reccomend them all: Bud in Paris Barry Harris Plays Tadd Dameron - really good International Jam Sessions Barry Harris - Live in Tokyo Al Cohn and Dexter Gordon - True Blue - a truly outstanding disc I have all the Bebop Revisited and they're all fantastic. I don't think they've been reissued on lp (a pity) Great label. Quote
etherbored Posted December 13, 2004 Report Posted December 13, 2004 i would love to have barry harris plays barry harris... -e- Quote
jazzydaddy Posted December 13, 2004 Report Posted December 13, 2004 In addition to the ones already mentioned I would say the Teddy Edwards (The Inimitable Teddy Edwards), Sonny Criss (Saturday Morning), Kenny Drew (For Sure; a quintet w/ Charles McPherson & Sam Noto) and all of the ones by Charles McPherson are well worth getting. Xanadu did a nice job. It's a shame most of their releases have not been reissued on CD. Don Quote
brownie Posted December 13, 2004 Report Posted December 13, 2004 Wasn't the Onyx label a predecessor of Xanadu? http://www.jazzdiscography.com/Labels/onyx.htm Onyx reissued had-to-find albums. The album covers layout for the Onyx and Xanadu labels was very similar. A shame that the material that Xanadu reissued from the Jerry Newman archives (Trumpet Battle at Minton's, Harlem Odyssey, Sweets, Lips & Lots of Jazz, Roy Eldridge at Jerry Newman's) is unavailable by now. Quote
Brad Posted December 13, 2004 Report Posted December 13, 2004 Xanadu did a nice job. It's a shame most of their releases have not been reissued on CD. Don Some of them have by a company called Prevue. Quote
jazzydaddy Posted December 13, 2004 Report Posted December 13, 2004 Xanadu did a nice job. It's a shame most of their releases have not been reissued on CD.  Don Some of them have by a company called Prevue. Yes Brad, I have maybe a half dozen of them including Jimmy Heath's "A Picture of Heath" (Nice album!) and Dolo Coker's "Dolo!". The latter is a gem; quintet date with Harold Land and Blue Mitchell; you can't beat that combination!!!!! It's unfortunate that Prevue stopped after releasing only a dozen or so albums from the Xanadu catalog. Probably went belly up like all too many who try to mix jazz with profits. If my memory serves me right (I'm at my day job now) Xanadu was the product of Don Schlitten who I believe also produced some fine albums on the Muse label. Don Quote
cliffpeterson Posted December 13, 2004 Report Posted December 13, 2004 epm reissued xanadu titles other than those issued by prevue. you can generally find the prevue cd reissues on ebay for a fair price. the tal farlow dates from a private recording have been reissued as one of those definitive label releases under a title like "the complete tal farlow private recordings." Quote
jazzydaddy Posted December 13, 2004 Report Posted December 13, 2004 epm reissued xanadu titles other than those issued by prevue. you can generally find the prevue cd reissues on ebay for a fair price. the tal farlow dates from a private recording have been reissued as one of those definitive label releases under a title like "the complete tal farlow private recordings." Hi Cliff, thanks for the info. Do you know of any original 1970's Xanadu releases that were reissued by EPM or where their releases limited to the older items that Xanadu had reissued on their label? Thanks, Don Quote
mikeweil Posted December 13, 2004 Report Posted December 13, 2004 Wasn't the Onyx label a predecessor of Xanadu? http://www.jazzdiscography.com/Labels/onyx.htm Onyx reissued had-to-find albums. The album covers layout for the Onyx and Xanadu labels was very similar. A shame that the material that Xanadu reissued from the Jerry Newman archives (Trumpet Battle at Minton's, Harlem Odyssey, Sweets, Lips & Lots of Jazz, Roy Eldridge at Jerry Newman's) is unavailable by now. Both labels were founded by Don Schlitten, IIRC. He originally ran Onyx during his time with Muse as a reissue label for historical material, but AFAIR there were some legal issues about the material - that is why most of the ONYX material remains OOP. (I may be wrong about the details ...) Xanadu was Schlitten's next label after his departure from Muse, the Silver series was the new recordings, the Gold series continued the Onyx series. Some of it was on CD in France through EPM, some in Japan. Unfortunately I have pretty few Xanadu LPs, and only one CD (the Jimmy Rowles). I regret I never got the Barry Harris albums, especially the one where he plays only Dameron tunes. Quote
brownie Posted December 13, 2004 Report Posted December 13, 2004 Thanks Mike. I happen to be listening to Barry Harris Plays Tadd Dameron right now. Next will probably be Barry Harris Plays Barry Harris. Beautiful albums. Glad I bought many of those Xanadus when they came out. Which also enabled me to avoid those French CD reissues. Hate their cover design! Quote
Brad Posted December 13, 2004 Report Posted December 13, 2004 I just realized that I have the Dolo Coker Cd and that is an outstanding cd. That along with the Barry Harris cds and True Blue are probably the best although the Jimmy Raney Sonny Clark Cd, Together, is pretty fantastic. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted December 13, 2004 Report Posted December 13, 2004 Onyx was a "murky" partnership between Schlitten and Joe Fields. Don also produced new sessions for Muse and the labels were marketed in tandem. After Joe and Don "divorced" the Onyx tapes and some unissued Muse sessions were tied up in a prolonged legal squabble. This was sorted out a few years back and Don put out an unissued Terry Gibbs lp before he stopped operations. Joe has issued some on the Onyx material on High Note. My favorite sessions on Xanadu are the Al Cohn, Jimmy Raney and Sonny Criss dates. Quote
Leeway Posted December 14, 2004 Author Report Posted December 14, 2004 In addition to the ones already mentioned I would say the Teddy Edwards (The Inimitable Teddy Edwards), Sonny Criss (Saturday Morning), Kenny Drew (For Sure; a quintet w/ Charles McPherson & Sam Noto) and all of the ones by Charles McPherson are well worth getting. Xanadu did a nice job. It's a shame most of their releases have not been reissued on CD. Don It was McPherson's "Free Bop!" which I just picked up that got me to start this thread. Quote
mikeweil Posted December 14, 2004 Report Posted December 14, 2004 Onyx was a "murky" partnership between Schlitten and Joe Fields. Don also produced new sessions for Muse and the labels were marketed in tandem. After Joe and Don "divorced" the Onyx tapes and some unissued Muse sessions were tied up in a prolonged legal squabble. This was sorted out a few years back and Don put out an unissued Terry Gibbs lp before he stopped operations. Joe has issued some on the Onyx material on High Note. Thanks for writing that up once more, Chuck. Do you remember which label the Terry Gibbs was on? I have that Sonny Criss - it is a very moving album! Quote
Bill Fenohr Posted December 14, 2004 Report Posted December 14, 2004 Mike, If the Gibbs album was the one titled Bopstacle Course, it was on Xanadu, #210, with Barry Harris, Sam Jones and Alan Dawson. It was recorded in July 1974. Quote
robviti Posted December 14, 2004 Report Posted December 14, 2004 (edited) Mike, If the Gibbs album was the one titled Bopstacle Course, it was on Xanadu, #210, with Barry Harris, Sam Jones and Alan Dawson. It was recorded in July 1974. i have this on cd. it's excellent. Edited December 14, 2004 by jazzshrink Quote
mikeweil Posted December 14, 2004 Report Posted December 14, 2004 Mike, If the Gibbs album was the one titled Bopstacle Course, it was on Xanadu, #210, with Barry Harris, Sam Jones and Alan Dawson. It was recorded in July 1974. A rare bird - never heard of this. Sounds good, with such a first-class rhythm section. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted December 14, 2004 Report Posted December 14, 2004 Don produced the Gibbs for Muse but it was not issued by them. Don got the tapes as part of the split. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted December 14, 2004 Report Posted December 14, 2004 My Favorite Xanadu dates are Billy Mitchell's "Colossus of Detriot" and "De Lawd's Blues" and Ronnie Cuber's 2 dates... although I do dig Sonny Criss's "Saturday Morning" and Jimmy Heath's "Picture of Heath". Hmm... and there's the Joe Farrell's "Skate Board Park". Actually that Dolo Coker date is pretty damn good too. The Xanadu LPs I've been looking for are the live from Montreux dates they put out. They were listed at http://www.jazzatharbor.com for a while but that website seems to have gone belly up. Later, Kevin Quote
pryan Posted December 14, 2004 Report Posted December 14, 2004 Is that Paul Chambers/Hampton Hawes album available on CD? Quote
Brad Posted December 14, 2004 Report Posted December 14, 2004 I just picked up, coincidentally, the Al Cohn Barry Harris cd so looking forward to that. Quote
BFrank Posted December 15, 2004 Report Posted December 15, 2004 That Joe Farrell "Skateboard Park" album IS really good. Probably the last great thing he did. I'm going to have to check out those Billy Mitchells. Thanks for the heads up there, Kevin. For any of you who don't mind MP3's, it's true that eMusic carries quite a few Xanadu's - not the entire catalog, but a good representation. I believe they are all transferred from vinyl, but the sound is pretty anyway. Here's the artist list: Auld, George Barron, Kenny Berg, Bob Butler, Frank Clark, Sonny Cohn, Al Cohn, Al (Al Cohn And Barry Harris) Cohn, Al (Al Cohn And Jimmy Rowles) Coker, Dolo Coleman, Earl Criss, Sonny Cuber, Ronnie Dorham, Kenny Dorham, Kenny (Kenny Dorham And Conte Candoli) Drew, Kenny Dunbar, Ted Edison, Harry (Harry Edison / Hot Lips Page / Roy Eldridge) Eldridge, Roy Farlow, Tal Farrell, Joe Flanagan, Tommy Gibbs, Terry Gordon, Dexter Gray, Wardell Guy, Joe (Joe Guy And Hot Lips Page) Harris, Barry Hawes, Hampton Hawkins, Coleman Heath, Jimmy Hines, Earl Hines, Earl (Earl Hines And Roy Eldridge) Jones, Sam McPherson, Charles Mitchell, Billy Monterose, J. R. Moody, James (James Moody And Bennie Green) Most, Sam Mover, Bob Norvo, Red Noto, Sam Payne, Cecil (Cecil Payne And Duke Jordan) Powell, Bud Raney, Jimmy Rodgers, Shorty (Shorty Rodgers And Art Pepper) Rodney, Red Rowles, Jimmy Russell, Pee Wee Sprague, Peter Thompson, Lucky Tucker, Mickey Various Artists - Xanadu FWIW, they do NOT have those Montreux albums. But they DO have "Silver Blue" - a three-tune jam session with Al Cohn, Dexter Gordon, Blue Mitchell, Sam Noto, Barry Harris, Sam Jones, Louis Hayes. Quote
mikeweil Posted December 15, 2004 Report Posted December 15, 2004 Is that Paul Chambers/Hampton Hawes album available on CD? Hampton Hawes is not heard on that record, it's Paul Moer. It was a session recorded for VeeJay on the occasion of a Miles Davis Quintet visit to California, to feature Paul Chambers and Philly Joe Jones along with some West Coasters: Bill Perkins, Jack Montrose, and Paul Moer - Montrose and John Graas wrote the arrangements. Two tunes were recorded with Mel Lewis on drums as Philly Joe did not show up on the first day of recording. Don Schlitten somehow got hold of the tapes and released 7 of the 9 tracks with incorrect personnel and tune titles on that Xanadu LP. The session was first issued completely with correct personnel and track titles on a British Affinity LP AFF 56 in 1980. IIRC there was a Charly CD of this, or on some Spanish label. Quote
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