Brad Posted December 4, 2004 Report Posted December 4, 2004 Since some of the posts in the Beehive thread were starting to gravitate Uptown Records, I thought we should start a different thread. I'm doing To Tadd With Love right now and working through Mike's tutorial. The process doesn't look that difficult yet (fingers crossed) so I'll keep you posted. One question for Chuck: the album doesn't list matrix numbers or alternates. Were there any. If so, can you please post or send them to me, if it's not inconvenient. My email is blewin2222@aol.com. If that doesn't work, I can give a fax number. Thanks. Quote
medjuck Posted December 4, 2004 Report Posted December 4, 2004 Any chance of getting at least a listing of the Uptown re-issues? And does the Bird in Montreal count as a re-issue or would it be included in the discography? Quote
mikeweil Posted December 5, 2004 Report Posted December 5, 2004 medjuck said: Any chance of getting at least a listing of the Uptown re-issues? A joint effort at this by organissimo board members can be found here. Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted December 5, 2004 Report Posted December 5, 2004 My view is that anything recorded before the label's existence - the Bird, Lee Wiley, Chet Baker, Serge Chaloff, etc. are not "Uptown sessions" - they are private tapes later issued by Uptown. So they would be included in a different kind of listing. Re: master/matrix numbers - this is the kind of thing that is only known by the producer/company. If they can be learned, great - especially if we can learn about take numbers, etc. If we can learn recording sequence (even without any numbers), great. Sequence the selections as they were performed at the session. If, as in MANY cases, we have NO idea as to the recording sequence, I use the original issue sequence, showing a-01 for side A, track 1, etc. That way someone looking at the discography will know that the source of sequence is the ISSUE, not the recording log. Most discographies don't bother to make this distinction (and many list issue sequence but just don't tell you). I did a look at the listing, I would say everything up to 34 would be in (including the unissued stuff if that wasn't "historical" material), then 37, 43 - I think that's it. Mike Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted December 5, 2004 Report Posted December 5, 2004 Mike, original Uptown "material" after 27.34 are as follows: 27.37 Densil Pinnock 27.39 Don Sickler 27.41 Kenny Barron - reissue of 27.26 + a new tune and an alternate 27.43 Jack Sheldon 27.47 Barry Harris - reissue of 27.20 + four new tunes and an alternate 27.50 Charlie Rouse - reissue of 27.18 + three alternates No time for any details now. Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted December 5, 2004 Report Posted December 5, 2004 Thanks - yes, I meant to include the Sickler. The others I was considering just as reissues of earlier numbers (albeit with bonus tracks). Mike Quote
Brad Posted December 5, 2004 Author Report Posted December 5, 2004 (edited) All right, I've finished up one date. As soon as I finish up the other three dates I have, I'll be emailing it to Mike. If others would like to give me the information, please do. This is fun and I wouldn't mind doing it if others give me the information. BTW, for those who may be a little daunted by it, if you follow Mike's tutorial, you won't have a problem. Edited December 5, 2004 by Brad Quote
jazzydaddy Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 Brad said: All right, I've finished up one date. As soon as I finish up the other three dates I have, I'll be emailing it to Mike. If others would like to give me the information, please do. This is fun and I wouldn't mind doing it if others give me the information. BTW, for those who may be a little daunted by it, if you follow Mike's tutorial, you won't have a problem. Brad, thanks for the feedback. I was tied up most of the weekend with Holiday shopping but hope to give it a try later this week. If I encounter any problems I will send you the details on the other Uptown issues I have. Thank you for your efforts, Don Quote
jazzydaddy Posted December 7, 2004 Report Posted December 7, 2004 Brad said: All right, I've finished up one date. As soon as I finish up the other three dates I have, I'll be emailing it to Mike. If others would like to give me the information, please do. This is fun and I wouldn't mind doing it if others give me the information. Brad, since I don't know when I'll have a chance to download and learn BRIAN I thought I might take you up on your offer and provide the details to some of the other Uptown issues. Here's the data for UP 27.01: Artist: Joe Thomas Album Title: Raw Meat LP Number: Uptown UP 27.01 Side A 1. Don’t Blame Me 4:57 (Fields-McHugh) 2. Exactly Like You 4:13 (Fields-McHugh-Shapiro-Bernstein) 3. Body And Soul 5:56 (Green-Heyman-Sour-Eyton) 4. Honey 6:50 (Simons-Whiting-Gillespie) Side B 1. Charmaine 2:44 (Rapee-Pollack) 2. Raw Meat 5:04 (Thomas) 3. Medley 7:21 The Lady In The Corner (Rowles) Tea For Two (Caesar-Youmans) Personnel: Joe Thomas – tenor saxophone and vocals Jimmy Rowles – piano & vocals Walter Booker – bass Akira Tana – drums Producer: Robert Sunenblick, M.D. Recording Engineer: Randy Weaver Recorded at Soundtech Studios, Mercantville, N.J. April 3 and 4, 1979 Mastering Engineer: Robert C. Ludwig, Masterdisk, NYC Mixers: Fred Miller and Mario Salvati Mixed at Sorcerer Sound, NY If you are willing to enter others I will post the data. Thanks, Don Quote
Brad Posted December 7, 2004 Author Report Posted December 7, 2004 Don, Thanks. Go ahead and send more. If you want to email me, my email is lewinb@wyeth.com Also is that Mercantville or Merchantville? Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted December 24, 2004 Report Posted December 24, 2004 I'm back on the case with this one. Here's a first draft. http://www.JazzDiscography.com/Temp/uptown.htm Brad is working on 11, 28, 30, I believe. Other than that - info welcome, incl. timings and sequence for 9, 18, etc. Mike Quote
bertrand Posted December 25, 2004 Report Posted December 25, 2004 Mike, Do you need information for Freddie Redd's Lonely City? If so, I'll post it tomorrow. Bertrand. Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted December 25, 2004 Report Posted December 25, 2004 I believe that's one that Brad is entering. Wait for confirmation on that. Mike Quote
brownie Posted December 25, 2004 Report Posted December 25, 2004 Checked the Uptown Discography. Can help with details that seem to be missing for the following vinyls: - Allen Eager 'Renaissance' - Jimmy Gourley 'The Left Bank of New York' (Toot's Suite is credited to Holman) - Tommy Flanagan 'Nights at the Vanguard' Also the Carl Fontana date 'The Great Fontana' (September 1985) is missing. Bought the vinyl when it came out plus the CD with the two additional tracks which was issued later. Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted December 25, 2004 Report Posted December 25, 2004 I believe Brad is taking care of the Fontana. For the others, if you can supply timings and issue sequence - to keep the typing minimal, how about this format - letters correspond to tracks in the existing draft: ex: Allen Eager - (location needed) side A: a 3:36/c 5:35/b 12:18 side B: d 7:49/e 5:11/f 6:46 I have all the issue numbers already, just waiting for the track sequence - and release years would also be nice. Thanks! Mike Quote
brownie Posted December 25, 2004 Report Posted December 25, 2004 Allan Eager 'Renaissance' (1982). 1982 is the release date that appears on the label. Back liner says copyright 1981 (!) Recorded at Soundtek, NYC, March 25, 1982 side A: a- Just You, Just Me (Klages, Greer).......................6:01 b- For All We Know (Coots, Lewis)......................... 5:08 c- Room Service Blues (Eager)..............................7:52 side B: d- Equinox (Coltrane)............................................6:25 e-I Should Care (Cahn, Stordhal, Weston)..............7:50 f- Ladybird (Dameron)..........................................6:40 ------------------------------------------------------------ Tommy Flanagan 'Nights at the Vanguard' (1987) Recorded on location at the Village Vanguard, New York City, October 18 and 19, 1986 side A: a- Introduction......................................................1:4O b- San Francisco Holiday (Worry Later) (T. Monk).....5:53 c- Goodbye Mr. Evans (P. Woods)...........................6:31 d- Out Of The Past (B. Golson)................................7:23 side B: e- A Biddy Ditty (T. Jones).....................................8:20 f- While You Are Gone (L. Thompson).....................4:18 g- All God's Children (Kahn, Kaper, Jurmann)...........4:16 h- Like Old Times (T. Jones)....................................5:05 --------------------------------------------------------------- Jimmy Gourley (The Left Bank of New York) (1989) Recorded at Van Gelder Recording Studio, Englezood Cliffs, N.J. August 23, 1986 side A: a- Au Tabou (Gryce)...............................................5:45 b- Time On My Hands (Adamson, Gordon, Youmans)..5:O8 c- Salute To The Bandbox (Gryce)............................4:50 d- Speak Low (Weill, Nash)......................................6:08 side B: e- Bamoun Beauty (Gourley)...................................5:43 f- Airegin (Rollins)..................................................4:06 g- Toot's Suite (Holman)..........................................6:04 h- You're Not The Kind (Mills, Hudson).......................5:38 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Et voila... Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted December 25, 2004 Report Posted December 25, 2004 Et voici - http://www.JazzDiscography.com/Temp/uptown.htm Quote
mikeweil Posted December 25, 2004 Report Posted December 25, 2004 Quote Date: November 12, 1983 Location: Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ Label: Uptown Don Sickler (ldr), Jimmy Heath (ts), Don Sickler (t), Cedar Walton (p), Ron Carter (b), Billy Higgins (d) a. a-01 Spring Cannon - 04:35 (Kenny Dorham) Uptown LP 12": UP 27.17 - The Music Of Kenny Dorham (1984) b. a-02 Escapade - 09:12 (Kenny Dorham) Uptown LP 12": UP 27.17 - The Music Of Kenny Dorham (1984) c. a-03 Windmill - 06:18 (Kenny Dorham) Uptown LP 12": UP 27.17 - The Music Of Kenny Dorham (1984) d. b-01 "Philly" Twist - 05:54 (Kenny Dorham) Uptown LP 12": UP 27.17 - The Music Of Kenny Dorham (1984) e. b-02 La Mesha - 07:05 (Kenny Dorham) Uptown LP 12": UP 27.17 - The Music Of Kenny Dorham (1984) f. b-03 The Fox - 06:43 (Kenny Dorham) Uptown LP 12": UP 27.17 - The Music Of Kenny Dorham (1984) g. Blues Lament (Kenny Dorham) All these titles including Blue Lament are on the 1989 CD reissue on Reservoir RSR CD 111 with the same title as the LP. I think the Reservoir CD issues should be included. Quote
brownie Posted December 27, 2004 Report Posted December 27, 2004 Michael, not listed either is the Budd Johnson/Phil Woods 'The Ole Dude & The Dundance Kid' album. I have the vinyl (UP27.19). If you need details, just let me know! Quote
brownie Posted December 27, 2004 Report Posted December 27, 2004 Budd Johnson & Phil Woods 'The Old Dude & The Fundance Kid' (1985) Budd Johnson, tenor, Phil Woods, alto, Richard Wyands, piano, George Duvivier, bass, Bill Goodwin, drums. Recorded February 4, 1984 at Van Gelder Recording Studio, Englewood Cliffs, N.J. Side A: a- After Five (Phil Woods)......................................6:28 b- Street of Dreams (Lewis, Young)........................6:24 c- Confusion (Budd Johnson)..................................7:12 side B: d- Blue Lou (Sampson)..........................................6:56 e- More Than You Know (Eliscu, Rose, Youmans).....7:43 f- Ole Dude And The Fundance Kid (Phil Woods)......5:16 All titles on Uptown LP 12" UP 27.19 - The Old Dude & The Fundance Kid Quote
Brad Posted December 27, 2004 Author Report Posted December 27, 2004 bertrand said: Mike, Do you need information for Freddie Redd's Lonely City? If so, I'll post it tomorrow. Bertrand. I've got the CD issue of Lonely City so I'll do that one. It's almost done. Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted December 27, 2004 Report Posted December 27, 2004 OK - latest draft-in-progress now online. Thanks to all. Mike Quote
brownie Posted December 28, 2004 Report Posted December 28, 2004 Hey, wait a minute!!! Three more Uptowns which do not seem to be listed! Don't have any of those - Uptown 27.08 Hod O'Brien 'Bits and Pieces' (with Teddy Kotick and Jimmy Wormworth) rec. 1982, - Uptown 27.12 Jay McShann and Joe Thomas 'Blowin' In From K.C.' (with Johnny Grimes, Dicky Harris, George Duvivier, Oliver Jackson/Jackie Williams) rec. December 1982 - Uptown 27.13 Haywood Henry 'The Gentle Monster' (with Joe Newman, Hank Jones, George Duvivier, Ben Riley) rec. May 1983 Zat's all Folks. For the time being... Quote
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