Chuck Nessa Posted December 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Listened to Mingus' Debut Rarities, vol 1 tonight. Joe Maini and Bill Triglia are in wonderful form here along with Brother Knepper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Chuck mentioned Ammons' "Preachin.'" I'd add his "Live in Chicago," with organist Eddie Buster and drummer Gerald Donovan. Jug was on fire that night. As Bob Porter says in the liner notes, sound quality is kind of blarey, but that doesn't really matter much. Also picked up, among several others, the Bobby Jaspar. An interesting date for a number of reasons -- raw early Elvin (1957) meets latter-day George Wallington is really strange (that two such gifted musicians seemingly not that far apart stylistically could in fact be so distant from each other timewise that they almost have to communicate by messenger); Jaspar going in and out of focus on tenor but in an often moving, groping manner; and Idrees Sulieman is plenty strange all by himself. Wonder what Alfred Lion would have made of such a collection of players, though he certainly wouldn't have assembled them. Lord, would a little Blue Note rehearsal, plus RVG (rather than Jack Higgins at Reeves Sound), have made a difference here! Elvin sounds like the hauled out the blankets they used to muffle Gene Krupa in the late '20s. Orin Keepnews, faugh! But it's still an interesting musical, human document. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybleaden Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 I am with you guys on this and have been over the last 10 years knocking off large numbers of the OJC rpestige and riverside catalogue with any spare cash. However this year I managed to get into the whole emusic downlaod thing and have shifted up a gear or two ..........got some real scorchers too...........not the same as having the cd but it is legal ( well it makes a change B-) ) and you get the large catalogue However my all time favs and never to be missed are the Roy Haynes, Booker Ervins, Walt Dickerson, Benny Golsons Charles Macpherson Email me for more details or for trading possibilities as I have some spares Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Short but sweet... Alos features what are, without question, the GREATEST LINER NOTES EVER !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted December 24, 2004 Report Share Posted December 24, 2004 I know it's already been mentioned, but if you can find it, don't pass up "Very Saxy," with Coleman Hawkins, Buddy Tate, Lockjaw, and Arnett Cobb. The intensity level throughout is very high, especially from Cobb and Tate. Also, I love the zest with which the ensemble plays the tasty, functional charts. And George Duvivier is a rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailman Posted December 24, 2004 Report Share Posted December 24, 2004 Does 'Very Saxy' contain any additional tracks beyond what what was on the LP? I've had that one for a long time and it is a favorite of mine. I'd pick up a CD if there was added material. I just picked up OJC CD ' Blues Groove' by Tiny Grimes with Coleman Hawkins. Very tasty stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgraham333 Posted December 25, 2004 Report Share Posted December 25, 2004 I just watched It's A Wonderful Life and I could swear I heard Zu Zu say, "Every time you buy an OJC an angel gets it's wings." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted December 25, 2004 Report Share Posted December 25, 2004 "Every time you buy an OJC, an angel gets it's wings ... " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted December 25, 2004 Report Share Posted December 25, 2004 No added tracks on "Very Saxy." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailman Posted December 25, 2004 Report Share Posted December 25, 2004 Thanks. I'll just hang on to my LP. It's a killer. Love Shirley Scott on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montg Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 I've used Christmas gift certificates to begin digging into this catalog. I picked up Hal Singer (BLue Stompin'), the Louis Cotrell trio, Jimmy Heath (Triple threat), Charles Earland (Black Talk), Teddy Charles (Coolin'), Gene Ammons (Funky), and hopefully a couple of others. Thanks for all of the suggestions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave James Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Before this thread completely unravels, another quick plug for Walt Dickerson. I've had "Sense of Direction" for years and I recently downloaded "Relativity". Good swingin' stuff. Andrew Cyrille is a helluva drummer. While I can't comment on the balance of Dickerson's catalog, I can say, unequivocally, that these two are keepers. Not to mention ones that probably wouldn't survive a trip under the "owner-scope". Up over and out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 Before this thread disappears (along with many of the OJCs), I'd like to put a plug in for a few essential blues sides that should be in every self respecting collection: Guitar Slim: Suffering Mind (Specialty 7007) Clifton Chenier: Zodico Blues and Boogie (Specialty 7039) - ok, not strictly blues, but there's enough there to fit in. Bloodstains on the Wall - Country Blues from Specialty (Specialty 7061) Frankie Lee Sims: Lucy Mae Blues (Specialty 7022) - Texas blues at its finest. And for anyone who's into '60s folk wierdness: The Holy Modal Rounders 1&2 (Fantasy 24711) I'm about to place an OJC order, and I'd appreciate it if anyone can recommend (or not) any of the following: Dick Wellstood/Cliff Jackson: Uptown and Lowdown (Prestige 24262) Junior Cook/Blue Mitchell: Junior's Cookin' (OJC 1002) The Walter Bishop, Jr. Trio (OJC 1896) Cal Tjader: Latin Kick (OJC 642) - I'm interested mainly in Brew Moore's playing. Barry Harris Trio: Chasin' the Bird (OJC 872) The George Wallington Trios (OJC 1754) I've checked out most of these in the Penguin Guide, but I trust you guys a lot more than I trust those guys. Thanks in advance for any feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 I can vouch for the Wallington Trios. A fascinating musician. Wallington had several incarnations: -- the electrifying bop virtuoso of those sides; the more sober bandleader-comper of the mid- 1950s (check out his "Jazz for the Carriage Trade on OJC for one, with some of the best Phil Woods there is; also the Cafe Bohemia band with scary early Jackie McLean); his coinciding or a bit later somewhat East Side lounge-ish trio thing, but Wallington was no sell-out, always had a strong vein of romanticism in him ("Knight Music" on Koch, often found as a cutout); and the final solo work of the mid-1980s ("Virtuoso," "Symphony of a Jazz Piano" -- which is darker, much more craggy, a bit Monkish in a personal way, and superb. Those solos albums (there may be more; I don't know) were recorded in the U.S. by Japanese producers and issued only in Japan I believe. They're worth searching for. Wallington left the music business for longish stretches to work in the family air-conditioning business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 (edited) Bravo on the Guitar Slim - very early use of overdriven guitar/amp combos. Also love the Holy Modal Rounders: amphetamine folk - and I love Wallington - try also the Savoys, if you can find them, with Max Roach and Curley Russell - Edited January 2, 2005 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 Paul, The Junior Cook/Blue Mitchell cd has been one of my favorites for years. I highly recommend it. You can't get more hardbop than this album. It's just fantastic. The Barry Harris and the George Wallington cds on OJC are also can't misses. I'm less excited about the Walter Bishop but it's ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbored Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 how does this one rank relative to the other OJC CDs available? Hard to believe any of them could be sharper... --- just a small footnote that all of the counce OJC's are of strong consistency. you can't go wrong, -e- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catesta Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 (edited) As a result of this thread I have ordered the following... Hal Singer - Blue Stompin' Junior Cook - Junior's Cookin' Don Wilkerson - The Texas Twister Webster Young - For Lady Harold Land - West Coast Blues! Jerome Richardson - Midnight Oil Jerome Richardson - Roamin' With Richardson Teddy Charles - Coolin' Direct from Fantasy, free shipping, and 10% discount for 10 or more. Edited January 4, 2005 by catesta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Continuing the "taking OJC's for granted" theme... I heard the tail end of title track from this on the radio yesterday, and as if listening to somebody's BFT disc, said to myself "WOW- that's fantastic... what IS that? I've got to get that!" I've had it for 10+ years. I spun the whole disc this morning, and was actually startled at how great it sounded- the whole damn thing. I remember being excited to get it, primarily because of the chance to add more vintage Blue Mitchell to the collection, but I don't remember it hitting me this hard at the time. I think this one has always been underrated/overlooked (Brad was the only person to mention it here, as far as I can tell). Mitchell is in great form, as are Timmons and Sam Jones, and Blakey is... incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjarrell Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Continuing the "taking OJC's for granted" theme... I heard the tail end of title track from this on the radio yesterday, and as if listening to somebody's BFT disc, said to myself "WOW- that's fantastic... what IS that? I've got to get that!" I've had it for 10+ years. I spun the whole disc this morning, and was actually startled at how great it sounded- the whole damn thing. I remember being excited to get it, primarily because of the chance to add more vintage Blue Mitchell to the collection, but I don't remember it hitting me this hard at the time. I think this one has always been underrated/overlooked (Brad was the only person to mention it here, as far as I can tell). Mitchell is in great form, as are Timmons and Sam Jones, and Blakey is... incredible. It's all true. Thanks for the tip! I downloaded it at emusic months ago. Never bothered playing it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfricaBrass Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 As a result of this thread I have ordered the following... Hal Singer - Blue Stompin' Junior Cook - Junior's Cookin' Don Wilkerson - The Texas Twister Webster Young - For Lady Harold Land - West Coast Blues! Jerome Richardson - Midnight Oil Jerome Richardson - Roamin' With Richardson Teddy Charles - Coolin' Direct from Fantasy, free shipping, and 10% discount for 10 or more. I think you'll be very happy with your order. I'm really glad Chuck suggested the Hal Singer album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catesta Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 As a result of this thread I have ordered the following... Hal Singer - Blue Stompin' Junior Cook - Junior's Cookin' Don Wilkerson - The Texas Twister Webster Young - For Lady Harold Land - West Coast Blues! Jerome Richardson - Midnight Oil Jerome Richardson - Roamin' With Richardson Teddy Charles - Coolin' Direct from Fantasy, free shipping, and 10% discount for 10 or more. I think you'll be very happy with your order. I'm really glad Chuck suggested the Hal Singer album. The Hal Singer was backordered on cduniverse. I ended up ordering straight from Fantasy, but had to think it was out of stock as a result of some folks from here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJ Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Good idea to tell folks what we've purchased as a direct result of this thread...for me, last weekend in the used stores in the Bay Area, I tracked down Mel Rhyne's ORGAN-IZING and the Hal Singer date...neither of which I'd have put very high on the list if not for the endorsements here. Both are really enjoyable - the Singer was a wonderful surprise, I would definitely probably have slept on that one - but I'm particularly taken by the Rhyne date - which makes some of the best use of the often tricky organ/piano combination I've ever heard. Griff and Mitchell in the front line don't hurt ONE little bit either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Okay here's what I've ordered (so far ) Hal Singer - Blue Stompin' Don Ellis - New Ideas George Russell - The Stratus Seekers George Russell - Ezz-thetics Jon Eardley - The Jon Eardley Seven Walt Dickerson - To My Queen Gigi Gryce/Art Farmer - When Farmer Met Gryce Gigi Gryce - Rat Race Blues Hal Gaylor/Walter Norris/Bean - The Trio Don Friedman - Metamorphosis Don Sleet - All Members Curtis Counce Group - Vol. 1: Landslide Rene Thomas - Guitar Groove Thanks to everyone for all of the great recommendations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Okay here's what I've ordered (so far ) Hal Singer - Blue Stompin' Don Ellis - New Ideas George Russell - The Stratus Seekers George Russell - Ezz-thetics Jon Eardley - The Jon Eardley Seven Walt Dickerson - To My Queen Gigi Gryce/Art Farmer - When Farmer Met Gryce Gigi Gryce - Rat Race Blues Hal Gaylor/Walter Norris/Bean - The Trio Don Friedman - Metamorphosis Don Sleet - All Members Curtis Counce Group - Vol. 1: Landslide Rene Thomas - Guitar Groove Thanks to everyone for all of the great recommendations. My God!... Leave a few for the rest of us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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