Chuck Nessa Posted November 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 Doesn't Concord tend to keep most of their own discs in print? Absolutely not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 ============================================================= 1 Teddy''''s Ready $7.99 [Teddy Edwards] ============================================================= ============================================================= 1 Sail Away $7.99 [Tom Harrell] ============================================================= ============================================================= 1 West Coast Sound 1 $7.99 [shelly Manne] ============================================================= I have these, and enjoy them all. I also have some of the George Russells from a compilation I bought when ABC owned the Riverside catalogue, and enjoy that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Larsen Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Doesn't Concord tend to keep most of their own discs in print? Absolutely not. Damn... I opened a second emusic account tonight to at least get some lo-fi tracks to check out... I have most of the Fantasy box sets (Trane Prestige, Miles Prestige, Monk Riverside, etc), but "only" about 100 individual discs, exclusive of the 200 or 300 I downloaded from emusic in the unlimited days. It was always easy putting off the OJC and OBC discs because they were so readily available... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 I guess I'm not sure if this is in the current Fantasy catalog or not but I stumbled across Johnny Griffin's Way Out on Riverside. It does not appear to be on eMusic for some reason, one of the few I'm aware of from Riverside/Prestige/etc. Anyway, it is Griffin, Kenny Drew, Wilbur Ware and Philly Joe Jones playing 6 tracks. Nice, probably not essential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 i dont even see why a catalog is necessary at this point. it is easy to remember the top 25 albums on each of concord's respective label-holdings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Emusic is still a good (and cheap) way to go. And the quality is not as "low-fi" as you might think. I have most of the Fantasy box sets (Trane Prestige, Miles Prestige, Monk Riverside, etc), but "only" about 100 individual discs, exclusive of the 200 or 300 I downloaded from emusic in the unlimited days. It was always easy putting off the OJC and OBC discs because they were so readily available... If you use the same emusic account (e-mail) that you did back in the "unlimited" days, you should be able to re-download everything from before (for free), with the better mp3 quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Larsen Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 (edited) Emusic is still a good (and cheap) way to go. And the quality is not as "low-fi" as you might think. I have most of the Fantasy box sets (Trane Prestige, Miles Prestige, Monk Riverside, etc), but "only" about 100 individual discs, exclusive of the 200 or 300 I downloaded from emusic in the unlimited days. It was always easy putting off the OJC and OBC discs because they were so readily available... If you use the same emusic account (e-mail) that you did back in the "unlimited" days, you should be able to re-download everything from before (for free), with the better mp3 quality. I've done that, but my days as an unlimited emusic member were not as productive as I would have liked them to be. I was distracted with my dissertation and only managed to find time to download 200-300 discs off emusic. I agree that the sound isn't too bad, but the consensus around here seems to be that it is lo-fi, hence my disclaimer. I ruined my ears a long time ago and usually can't hear much (often any) difference between various media or remasterings. Edited November 30, 2005 by J Larsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 A lot of Fantasy CDs are also on iTunes at $6-7 a pop. Sometimes you can buy all the individual tracks, sometimes not. I doubt those will be pulled when the physical CDs are. Bertrand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Larsen Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 A lot of Fantasy CDs are also on iTunes at $6-7 a pop. Sometimes you can buy all the individual tracks, sometimes not. I doubt those will be pulled when the physical CDs are. Bertrand. FWIW, even to my damaged ears the MP3s off emusic sound notably better than the AACs off iTunes. And they're cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 1. The catalog clearly states on the second page that it is only a fraction of their total holdings. No need to panic (yet). 2. Is this a concensus that e-music mp3s sound better than iTunes? I've never heard e-music, but iTunes sound fine to me. Can I put e-music stuff on my iPod? Bertrand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailman Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 1. The catalog clearly states on the second page that it is only a fraction of their total holdings. No need to panic (yet). 2. Is this a concensus that e-music mp3s sound better than iTunes? I've never heard e-music, but iTunes sound fine to me. Can I put e-music stuff on my iPod? Bertrand. Emusic mp3s sound quite good, and you can put them on an Ipod or any other player. You can also burn them to cd. Emusic files contain NO DRMs. You are free to do whatever you want with their files. Once you download them they belong to you. You own them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epithet Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 So, likelihood of deletion is a function of: reissue date, artist obscurity, membership in a limited-edition series (?), availability of a K2 release, availability of MP3s...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkertown Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Also, the mp3s on emusic.com are VBR encoded by the LAME encoder, the best out there... A much better option to 128kbs AAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 Some of you (at least in the southwest CT/ NY Metro area) know Sally White, owner of Sally's Records in Westport. Hands down the greatest little music store in the world, its amazing how much she crams into her little space, and 75% of it is jazz ... Anywhoo, I visited with her yesterday and I was sure to ask her what she thought of Concord taking over Fantasy. Keep in mind that she loved Carl Jefferson and has grown to loathe what the current owners did to Carl's creation. What Sally told me is: They have told me they are not going to touch the catalog. Now, in the same breath she acknowledged that these may turn out to be "famous last words" but she also informed me that she has continued to order from the Fantasy labels and nothing has been deleted. And those of you who know her store, know that her stock goes very deep in all the important labels she carries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 Some of you (at least in the southwest CT/ NY Metro area) know Sally White, owner of Sally's Records in Westport. Hands down the greatest little music store in the world, its amazing how much she crams into her little space, and 75% of it is jazz ... Anywhoo, I visited with her yesterday and I was sure to ask her what she thought of Concord taking over Fantasy. Keep in mind that she loved Carl Jefferson and has grown to loathe what the current owners did to Carl's creation. What Sally told me is: They have told me they are not going to touch the catalog. Now, in the same breath she acknowledged that these may turn out to be "famous last words" but she also informed me that she has continued to order from the Fantasy labels and nothing has been deleted. And those of you who know her store, know that her stock goes very deep in all the important labels she carries. At last some good news about the Fantasy catalog. Thanks Dan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 Now that is great holiday news. Thanks much, Dan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 Thanks for the info, Dan. Didn't know about the record store -- where in Westport is it? Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 What Sally told me is: They have told me they are not going to touch the catalog. Now, in the same breath she acknowledged that these may turn out to be "famous last words" but she also informed me that she has continued to order from the Fantasy labels and nothing has been deleted. So, that would indeed be good news, and we should be thankful for that, but what about additions to the catalog (new (re)issues)? I wonder what they'll offer besides rehashes (remasters) of previously issued titles, and compilations... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 Thanks for the info, Dan. Didn't know about the record store -- where in Westport is it? Guy Guy, she is on Main Street, but just north of the main part of it (and the part with the very highest rents). So from Route 1 in Norwalk, after you go over the bridge in Westport, you turn left onto main street, go past that main section, she's on the right past the second light. Tell her I sent you and know too that she went to high school with Horace Silver and remains friends to this day. ***************** Jim, as far as new reissues goes, she did acknowledge that she doesn't know if they'll continue to plumb deeper into the catalog or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest akanalog Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 let me say that here in nyc, i have seen quite a few OJCs at the used record stores and i mean still in the plastic unopened OJCs. which either means they are promos or deleted titles, right? might not mean anything but this is what i have been seeing-especially at academy. i specifically remember seeing the bill harris CD mentioned earlier in this thread as well as some more common stuff (ron carter albums for instance). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catesta Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 The local Tower has increased the price of all the Fantasy cds at least by $2.00. I imagine prices have gone up everywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 The local Tower has increased the price of all the Fantasy cds at least by $2.00. I imagine prices have gone up everywhere? Alldirect.com is still selling the regular OJCs for $7.99 and the K2s for $9.99. Unfortunately for some members I don't think they ship to Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Nelson Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 Just 6 months ago, Alldirect.com was charging $8.65 per OJC disc. So, their prices have gone DOWN to $7.99 but there are many titles they're out of. (George Wallington's 'NY Scene' is perpetually 'out of stock'.) Gotta pull that trigger real quick when you find a bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 Alldirect.com is still selling the regular OJCs for $7.99 and the K2s for $9.99. Unfortunately for some members I don't think they ship to Europe. They don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 (edited) Some of you (at least in the southwest CT/ NY Metro area) know Sally White, owner of Sally's Records in Westport. Hands down the greatest little music store in the world, its amazing how much she crams into her little space, and 75% of it is jazz ... Anywhoo, I visited with her yesterday and I was sure to ask her what she thought of Concord taking over Fantasy. Keep in mind that she loved Carl Jefferson and has grown to loathe what the current owners did to Carl's creation. What Sally told me is: They have told me they are not going to touch the catalog. Now, in the same breath she acknowledged that these may turn out to be "famous last words" but she also informed me that she has continued to order from the Fantasy labels and nothing has been deleted. And those of you who know her store, know that her stock goes very deep in all the important labels she carries. I have a good friend who lives in Ct., and we try and get together at least a couple of times a year. When we do, we usually meet in Westport for a bite to eat and then head to Sally's. She has a great spirit, a very fine store, and beyond that, she's a great salesperson. If every town had a Sally White running a Sally's Records, jazz would not be a marginal part of the record business. I can guarantee that. Edited December 31, 2005 by paul secor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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