David Ayers Posted November 29, 2004 Report Posted November 29, 2004 OK I have read enough about playing vinyl carefully etc. Now I want to hear about vinyl you have trashed. Everyone here has ruined a great pressing or valued original. One of my worse was putting a stylus scratch right through my favorite solo on a hard-found original of Science Fiction (that's long before any reissue). I'm sure I've done others too. Let's hear about yours! Quote
patricia Posted November 30, 2004 Report Posted November 30, 2004 OK I have read enough about playing vinyl carefully etc. Now I want to hear about vinyl you have trashed. Everyone here has ruined a great pressing or valued original. One of my worse was putting a stylus scratch right through my favorite solo on a hard-found original of Science Fiction (that's long before any reissue). I'm sure I've done others too. Let's hear about yours! I actually didn't trash this album, but I've been looking for a replacement ever since. It was an early Little Richard LP, with straight rhythm and blues and gospel on it. The title of the album escapes me, but I remember that it was black with diagnol turquoise on the cover and this is what happened. Foolishly I lent it to my older brother who took it, and some of his albums to a party. He chucked them all in the back window of his '56 Ford and forgot about them. The next day was hotter than the hubs of Hell and MY record was on top of the pile. It got warped to the point that it looked like one of those scallopy sea-creatures. To this day I look at him with a pronounced gimlet eye. Quote
Noj Posted November 30, 2004 Report Posted November 30, 2004 I handed one of my precious Soul Patrol compilations to a friend and said, "play the Willie Bobo track, it's smokin'!" The next thing I heard was my friend dropping the needle through that very track, scratching it irreparably. I haven't seen that compilation available since. How about priceless plates getting pinched? A friend had this compilation record called Filet Of Soul get stolen, it had some of the funkiest tracks I ever heard. I wish I could hear it again, I've never seen Filet Of Soul for sale or heard the same tracks anywhere else. Quote
DrJ Posted November 30, 2004 Report Posted November 30, 2004 I just related a story in another thread in this Vinyl forum about dropping the tone arm right in the middle of track 2 of the Dave Burns WARMING UP! album (Vanguard), otherwise a pristine reissue pressing. Now there's a click for 30 seconds right in the middle of a stellar Bobby Hutcherson solo! Ah well... Quote
wolff Posted November 30, 2004 Report Posted November 30, 2004 Nothing super rare and all have been replaced. About 5 years ago I had a bad vinyl handling period. I've been much better since. Hodges: Blues 'A Plenty reissue Webster: Soulville reissue Hawes: Green Leaves Of Summer original Pictures At An Exhibition reissue Quote
brownie Posted November 30, 2004 Report Posted November 30, 2004 One bad memory was when I checked the vinyl on a copy of George Russell's 'Stratusphunk' on Riverside and it slipped from my hands to hit a piece of furniture which should not have been where it was. A small piece of vinyl is now missing from the LP and I cannot play two tracks from the album Quote
doubleM Posted November 30, 2004 Report Posted November 30, 2004 I left a George Russell Prestige 2fer sitting in my mom's trunk on a hot day. B-) Quote
mikeweil Posted November 30, 2004 Report Posted November 30, 2004 I once lent a copy of the first LP of a local band, Zyma, to a drummer friend - we both joined a later edition of that band, and I got the last copy they had. It was well played and even better recorded at Tonstudio Bauer in Ludwigsburg, which ECM used often during its early years. When I wanted to pick it up a few weeks later some roommate of his had tossed it around without an inner sleeve - it was ruined forever ...... I nearly killed that guy! Quote
JohnS Posted November 30, 2004 Report Posted November 30, 2004 Dropped my Dave Brubeck "Junior College" lp coming in the door. It slid out the jacket, hit the door step edge on and ended up with a half moon chunk out of it. More recently ruined a copy of Mobley's "Straigt No Filter" when a bit of grit(?) got on the cleaning pad. Quote
DTMX Posted November 30, 2004 Report Posted November 30, 2004 As the first grandchild, my grandparents gave me a lot of my aunts' teenybopper records from the early sixties. Most of them in very good condition. But I was eight years old. I distinctly remember rolling the Beatles' second album down my parents new concrete driveway to see how far it would go before falling over. Quote
Harold_Z Posted November 30, 2004 Report Posted November 30, 2004 (edited) I lent out a copy of "Unity" in the 70s and got it back in unplayable condition. I couldn't find another copy - drummer Ronnie Davis made me a cassette copy from his lp and that served me faithfully. I found another new copy of the lp around 1980. That album was HARD to find in the late 70s and 80s. Another time, I left a copy of "The Ray Charles Story Vol 2", an Atlantic lp to near a radiator. I rescued it, but not before the two outermost tracks were warped into wavy unplayablity. ...and then there was the time, before I knew better, when I would stack records on the record changer. Side two of BB King's "Blues Is King" was playing when in the course of trying to add another lp onto the stack (another nice move) ALL the records fell onto the playing tone arm - MASHING it into the record and giving me about 30 seconds of NOISY surface in the middle of the side. Never let anyone handle your turntable - invariably there's a bobble and SCREECCHH. It reminds me of that Cheech and Chong routine where somebody does that - guess it was on "Bambu". Funny Bit. Edited November 30, 2004 by Harold_Z Quote
David Ayers Posted November 30, 2004 Author Report Posted November 30, 2004 Only UK posters will appreciate this. I was in a specialist 78 shop in Edinburgh. This guy had everything and the stock was all over the floor. The shop opened twice a week, on Wednesday afternoon and Saturday. The LPs were in the back room in a bargain box - he didn't care a fig for 33s and sold them all off cheap if ever he got any. So anyway, you had to tiptoe through the piles of 78s on tables and all over the floor to get to the back room. As I tiptoed through one time I heard the unmistakable sound of a 78 snapping under my foot. I looked down and it was the Ying Tong song by the Goons. I acted like nothing had happened but I am pretty sure the guy knew what I had done! Could have been worse, I suppose. Hell, if it was worth anything why was it on the floor?! Quote
DTMX Posted November 30, 2004 Report Posted November 30, 2004 So anyway, you had to tiptoe through the piles of 78s on tables and all over the floor to get to the back room. Sounds like a Christian Marclay installation... Quote
porcy62 Posted November 30, 2004 Report Posted November 30, 2004 My worse vinyl nightmare is break a record of a big Mosaic set like Art Blakey or Miles Davis. Actually I broke one Lp of the Band's The Last Waltz. I had to buy another copy! Quote
David Ayers Posted November 30, 2004 Author Report Posted November 30, 2004 So anyway, you had to tiptoe through the piles of 78s on tables and all over the floor to get to the back room. Sounds like a Christian Marclay installation... That's what it looked like too! Quote
ralphie_boy Posted November 30, 2004 Report Posted November 30, 2004 Last week I was putting my copy of Portrait of Cannonball (Original Riverside) on the turntable and it slipped out of my hand and got scratched against the stereo rack. It was perfect before, but now I got some nice pops in it. Quote
patricia Posted November 30, 2004 Report Posted November 30, 2004 (edited) ...and then there was the time, before I knew better, when I would stack records on the record changer. Side two of BB King's "Blues Is King" was playing when in the course of trying to add another lp onto the stack (another nice move) ALL the records fell onto the playing tone arm - MASHING it into the record and giving me about 30 seconds of NOISY surface in the middle of the side. Harold, you're lucky that my father didn't see you do that. Stacking records on the spindle was [i think, never tested the law] a hanging offence in our house when I was growing up. I still remember Dad's answer when, having seen other people stacking many records on the spindle, thus avoiding having to get off the sofa to put another, I asked him why we never did that? He said that the records would be damaged when the next record dropped on them. [He might have added that "All the records might fall onto the playing tonearm, MASHING it into the record.................", but he didn't have the actual experience of that happening, as you clearly did.] My condolances on the near-demise of your "Blues Is King" album. So sad. Edited December 1, 2004 by patricia Quote
mikeweil Posted November 30, 2004 Report Posted November 30, 2004 The first record player my parents gave me was a used one from my sister-in-law, mono, and when I had learned that they used needles to track the grooves in the early days, I took a pin and did just that! Held my ears close to the needle to hear something other than that biased mono, in fact it was some kind of weird stereo ..... I ruined a track on Cream's Disraeli Gears LP that way ... Quote
Nate Dorward Posted December 13, 2004 Report Posted December 13, 2004 The worst thing so far is that one LP of my dad's three-LP set The Blues Box is missing. I think I must have left it at the radio station where I used to have a show. Has this ever been reissued? It was a really nice set of stuff, & I'm still depressed I lost it. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted December 13, 2004 Report Posted December 13, 2004 I've had a few of those 'finger to the stubborn grit' experiences. I should only have one of those experiences, but no, I have a few. Luckily nothing expensive, but still no excuse. Oh, and I dropped and broke a This Heat LP a couple of years ago. Probably shouldn't be dealing with records... Quote
patricia Posted December 13, 2004 Report Posted December 13, 2004 (edited) I've had a few of those 'finger to the stubborn grit' experiences. I should only have one of those experiences, but no, I have a few. Luckily nothing expensive, but still no excuse. Oh, and I dropped and broke a This Heat LP a couple of years ago. Probably shouldn't be dealing with records... Clearly, Clifford, you and we need valet, whose sole responsibilty is to run our record players and handle our records properly. This person would be schooled in the proper storage of vinyl and the laws of the genre. For example, he/she would touch only the edge and the label, ALWAYS replace the disc, first in it's envelope, then in it's cover and replace each disc, immediately, on it's edge, in it's cover, in a temperature-controlled storage unit arranged alphabetically. Thus, the pristine condition of our precious collections of jazz vinyl would be ever preserved. Edited December 13, 2004 by patricia Quote
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